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VA Hospital KILLS

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Apr 29, 2014
How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools

8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?

Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
Capt Crunch

Sedona, AZ

#2 Apr 29, 2014
Evil people do not care what pain and suffering their machinations cause to the stupid and unsuspecting. And since the stupid and unsuspecting can not, or will not heed the warnings of those who see an approaching disaster, they will only respond to the words of an evangelical leader or leaders who make equally preposterous promises of future well being as their present oppressors. All authority leads to eventual total domination, and can only be changed by revolution and bloodshed. Leadership is invariably corrupted by the selfseeking, and can only be controlled by the same methods that are employed to bring it to power.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Apr 29, 2014
VA Hospital KILLS wrote:
How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:
There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.
1) Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)
6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?
Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
Is that you smart liberal? with your Alinsky BS again? when will your lazy as read some Niccolo Machvalii,the gentleman from Venice and learn that Alinsky is just a cheap copyright thief,that wouldn't know what the Renaissance Age of enlightment was truly about,how can a educated person hate education? line #7 hehehe and classs warfare has all was been a part of your beloved system of capitalist .
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Apr 29, 2014
Capt Crunch wrote:
Evil people do not care what pain and suffering their machinations cause to the stupid and unsuspecting. And since the stupid and unsuspecting can not, or will not heed the warnings of those who see an approaching disaster, they will only respond to the words of an evangelical leader or leaders who make equally preposterous promises of future well being as their present oppressors. All authority leads to eventual total domination, and can only be changed by revolution and bloodshed. Leadership is invariably corrupted by the selfseeking, and can only be controlled by the same methods that are employed to bring it to power.
Your so dumb you don't even have a clue what your talking about , you just want attention,the empty wagon makes the most noise.
Capt Crunch

Sedona, AZ

#5 Apr 29, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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Your so dumb you don't even have a clue what your talking about , you just want attention,the empty wagon makes the most noise.
Welcome to the forum, empty wagon. If brains were trains, you missed yours. You are a mouth that an empty brain grew up behind. Without Media Matters and Huffpost you would be a mute, and a stupid one at that.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#6 Apr 30, 2014
VA Hospital KILLS wrote:
Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States ?
Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin's original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.
It sounds exactly what has been going on in this nation for the last 50 or so years. And it can't be blamed on any one party since they are all guilty of not living up to their oaths of office. And at the national level, they are pretty much all in the "1%'r" category.
And so are all of their backers.
Capt Crunch

Sedona, AZ

#7 Apr 30, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
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It sounds exactly what has been going on in this nation for the last 50 or so years. And it can't be blamed on any one party since they are all guilty of not living up to their oaths of office. And at the national level, they are pretty much all in the "1%'r" category.
And so are all of their backers.
Splitting the blame has always been a useful tool to make one appear to be non judgemental. Not much help in fixing problems though.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Apr 30, 2014
Capt Crunch wrote:
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Splitting the blame has always been a useful tool to make one appear to be non judgemental. Not much help in fixing problems though.
I know that you never have serve this country in the armed services,because you could never pass a armed forces entrance exam,the written test or the physical,and tell the truth that I'm right.,just admit it that you're a 4F' loser.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Apr 30, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
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It sounds exactly what has been going on in this nation for the last 50 or so years. And it can't be blamed on any one party since they are all guilty of not living up to their oaths of office. And at the national level, they are pretty much all in the "1%'r" category.
And so are all of their backers.
Obama is the origin of death panels and that is exactly what the VA Hospital does. It would be revealing to know who ends up on the death list, the secret list. Are the death panel judges racists, after all the Navy guy/RIP was white?
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Apr 30, 2014
Trigger wrote:
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Obama is the origin of death panels and that is exactly what the VA Hospital does. It would be revealing to know who ends up on the death list, the secret list. Are the death panel judges racists, after all the Navy guy/RIP was white?
That's a cheap lie on the V.A.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Apr 30, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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That's a cheap lie on the V.A.
Sooo cheap President Obama is investigating. Isn't he YOUR President?
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Apr 30, 2014
Trigger wrote:
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Sooo cheap President Obama is investigating. Isn't he YOUR President?
The guy was dying anyway and the VA did the best that they could his lung were gone,Taps is taps.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Apr 30, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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The guy was dying anyway and the VA did the best that they could his lung were gone,Taps is taps.
It was 45+ Vets who died awaiting healthcare from the VA Hospital. There were 1,500 on the extended waiting list. Obama is investigating this crime.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#14 May 1, 2014
Capt Crunch wrote:
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Splitting the blame has always been a useful tool to make one appear to be non judgemental. Not much help in fixing problems though.
This has nothing to do with splitting the blame. It has everything to do with putting blame where it belongs, on Congress and the White House. No one party could do this much damage to our nation by themselves. And there is little or no difference between the two parties anyway. D or R, their number one concern is to look out for themselves.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#15 May 1, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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The guy was dying anyway and the VA did the best that they could his lung were gone,Taps is taps.
YOU are also dying, so don't bother to go the the VA for health care. Just die at home. RIP redeemer!!
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#18 May 1, 2014
Trigger wrote:
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YOU are also dying, so don't bother to go the the VA for health care. Just die at home. RIP redeemer!!
You're dying too,and you're going to burn in hell!
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#19 May 1, 2014
Capt Crunch wrote:
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Splitting the blame has always been a useful tool to make one appear to be non judgemental. Not much help in fixing problems though.
Them vets that died where living in Arizona right in your town and that speak volumes of that chit hole desert waste land state of yours n cruncie.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#20 May 1, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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Them vets that died where living in Arizona right in your town and that speak volumes of that chit hole desert waste land state of yours n cruncie.
I didn't know that you could dance so well - dance all around your disgusting remark(s).
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#21 May 1, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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I didn't know that you could dance so well - dance all around your disgusting remark(s).
I'm Tap dancing for the Vets who the misfortune to have been living in that ultra Red state that's full of haters ,I wouldn't be surprise that the VA Medical center was hijacked my Republicans who staged the deaths of the Vets just to try and embarrass the president,everything is about regaining power with you scum bags.
Beth

Minneapolis, MN

#22 May 1, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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I'm Tap dancing for the Vets who the misfortune to have been living in that ultra Red state that's full of haters ,I wouldn't be surprise that the VA Medical center was hijacked my Republicans who staged the deaths of the Vets just to try and embarrass the president,everything is about regaining power with you scum bags.
Well the top administrators at the Az VA have been suspended. The top woman had been discharged from a Wa state VA for lying about suicide numbers. Seems she is a habitual lier, she would fit right in to the Obama Administration.

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