Nearly Half Million Apply for U.S. He...

Nearly Half Million Apply for U.S. Health Insurance Despite Flaws

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The Real Truth

Latham, NY

#1 Oct 19, 2013
oughly half a million Americans have applied for health insurance through new federal- and state-run exchanges under President Barack Obama's signature healthcare law, an administration official said on Saturday.

Problems with the federal marketplace's entry portal serving 36 states, the website Healthcare.gov , have put a brake on the ability of consumers to shop for federally subsidized health coverage and drawn derision from Republicans, who oppose the law, popularly known as Obamacare.

"The website is unacceptable, and we are improving it, but the product is good and across the country people are getting access to affordable care starting January 1," an administration official said.

"We are going to work intensely for the next six months to make sure we meet the demand."

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2013/10/19/us/...
Schmahl Spew

Orlando, FL

#2 Oct 20, 2013
This is a great day for America! A half million poor people without affordable health care get insurance at a reasonable cost!
Liberal Liars

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Oct 21, 2013
Schmahl Spew wrote:
This is a great day for America! A half million poor people without affordable health care get insurance at a reasonable cost!
It is a great day in the eyes of a Liberal when those that work can pay for FREE STUFF for those that are too lazy to work. Obamacare is robbing middle class families and giving FREE healthcare to illegal aliens.
Arch on Larch

Detroit, MI

#4 Oct 21, 2013
Obviously you have no clue what the Affordable Care Act really is. People that are not employed already qualified for free medical care long before the ACA.

What the Affordable Care Act does is to provide AFFORDABLE (not free) health insurance for employed Americans (not illegal aliens) that formerly did not have and usually could not afford insurance.

You can make up stories about death panels and free care for aliens and free stuff for those "too lazy to work", but America has gotten wise to your lies.

What are you going to do in a few months when all your lies are proven wrong? Invent a new set of lies? The ACA is based on a REPUBLICAN plan to provide affordable coverage to poor people. Funny how as soon as the Democrats agree, the Republicans are suddenly against it.

How does it work in Massachusetts where Republican Mitt Romney helped enact a similar law? Do the middle class there pay more? Do illegal aliens get coverage? Where are your facts and comparisons?
LIbEralS

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Oct 21, 2013
Arch on Larch wrote:
Obviously you have no clue what the Affordable Care Act really is...?
I take it that you have read the Affordable Care Act bill?

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#6 Oct 21, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
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I take it that you have read the Affordable Care Act bill?
Most of the people this was intended for still can't afford the insurance since it is not all that inexpensive and many of them will find that it's less costly to just pay the extra taxes. Assuming they file taxes in the first place. Largest single middle class tax hike in recent history.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#7 Oct 21, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
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I take it that you have read the Affordable Care Act bill?
Why bother? It obviously was not important enough for congress or Obama to read the damned thing.
Lib Major

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Oct 21, 2013
Arch on Larch wrote:
Obviously you have no clue what the Affordable Care Act really is. People that are not employed already qualified for free medical care long before the ACA.
What the Affordable Care Act does is to provide AFFORDABLE (not free) health insurance for employed Americans (not illegal aliens) that formerly did not have and usually could not afford insurance.
You can make up stories about death panels and free care for aliens and free stuff for those "too lazy to work", but America has gotten wise to your lies.
What are you going to do in a few months when all your lies are proven wrong? Invent a new set of lies? The ACA is based on a REPUBLICAN plan to provide affordable coverage to poor people. Funny how as soon as the Democrats agree, the Republicans are suddenly against it.
How does it work in Massachusetts where Republican Mitt Romney helped enact a similar law? Do the middle class there pay more? Do illegal aliens get coverage? Where are your facts and comparisons?
You see Government loves to grow monopolies as in Obamacare.

Once in place you never get accurate statistics on how any new Government monopoly is acutually performing, when did you ever see statistics on any Government monopoly program?

Was on the NEWS yesterday, ER visits to private hospitals in Massachusetts are UP 7% since their RumneyCare was implemented. ER visits are supported to decline with afforable health care for all.

Hmmmmmmmmm

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#11 Oct 21, 2013
One more thing. What do you want to bet that most of those .5 million people applied because they thought it was free.
Arch on Larch

Detroit, MI

#12 Oct 21, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
One more thing. What do you want to bet that most of those .5 million people applied because they thought it was free.
I would bet you any amount of money, because that simply isn't true, and it is slanderous to rip on the poor working people.

You really don't get it, do you. It's easier for the 25% of wage earners that earn under $10 per hour to just quit trying and rely on the government because of people like you. The ACA helps the poor working class people that are TRYING to make a living working instead of relying on the government.

Yet you spread lies to try to kill the ACA. Biggest middle class tax hike in recent history? Nope. 100% fabricated. You can't even get your facts straight, you rely on people like Faux News to spoon feed you talking points. I can understand it from bitter illiterate old broken down people like Schmahl that can't even spell much less put a coherent thought together, but you post out of malice knowing full well that what you write is false.
Lib Major

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Oct 21, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
One more thing. What do you want to bet that most of those .5 million people applied because they thought it was free.
I'd agree.

Obama's sheepie are so ignorant, it will be fun to watch the ObamaCare mess evolve. BTW, I accuratly predicted the ObamaCare WEB sites would FAIL and expensive private sector consultants would be needed to make it work.

However they are also staffing call center sites to attempt to make it work, you know all those ESL call centers. Might work well with all the illegals signing up for free ObamaCare.
goose

Chicago, IL

#14 Oct 21, 2013
I love how the right wing extremists keep posting flat-out lies. They know they can't win telling the truth.
goose stuff

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Oct 21, 2013
goose wrote:
I love how the right wing extremists keep posting flat-out lies. They know they can't win telling the truth.
Obama said: You will pay $2,500 less for your health insurance under Obamacare.

Obama said: The web site will cost $94 million.

Fact: Health insurance costs will double for more than half of the US population.

Fact: Obamacare's web site has cost $634 so far and it is still not working. There is no solution in sight. The true cost for the web site will be way over $1 Billion.

Obama lied again.
goose stuff

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Oct 21, 2013
Correction to the numbers above: $634 million for the cost so far for the Obamacare web site. That is an almost 700% cost over run with no fix on the horizon.
Stabbings dont make news

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Oct 22, 2013
goose stuff wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama said: You will pay $2,500 less for your health insurance under Obamacare.
Obama said: The web site will cost $94 million.
Fact: Health insurance costs will double for more than half of the US population.
Fact: Obamacare's web site has cost $634 so far and it is still not working. There is no solution in sight. The true cost for the web site will be way over $1 Billion.
Obama lied again.
We now know what Obama majored in, not telling the truth.
Mantra of Teabaggers

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Oct 22, 2013
goose stuff wrote:
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Fact: Health insurance costs will double for more than half of the US population.
Fact: Obamacare's web site has cost $634 so far and it is still not working. There is no solution in sight. The true cost for the web site will be way over $1 Billion.
Obama lied again.
Sorry, your facts are wrong.

Health insurance costs will NOT double for more than half of the US population. That is COMPLETELY false.

I think the health care web site cost a little more than $634 so far. You might want to check that out. Originally, when the cost was calculated, only six states were expected to use it, which is what it was designed and budgeted for, so it is completely unfair to argue cost.

That's like saying that you were quoted $200,000 to buy 10 pickup trucks but then complained about the price of $800,000 when you change the quantity to 40. It makes no sense.
Stabbings dont make news

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Oct 22, 2013
Mantra of Teabaggers wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, your facts are wrong.
Health insurance costs will NOT double for more than half of the US population. That is COMPLETELY false.
I think the health care web site cost a little more than $634 so far. You might want to check that out. Originally, when the cost was calculated, only six states were expected to use it, which is what it was designed and budgeted for, so it is completely unfair to argue cost.
That's like saying that you were quoted $200,000 to buy 10 pickup trucks but then complained about the price of $800,000 when you change the quantity to 40. It makes no sense.
You are partially right. Those unwilling to work will not see an increase in health care costs, it will still be free.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#22 Oct 22, 2013
Arch on Larch wrote:
<quoted text>
I would bet you any amount of money, because that simply isn't true, and it is slanderous to rip on the poor working people.
You really don't get it, do you. It's easier for the 25% of wage earners that earn under $10 per hour to just quit trying and rely on the government because of people like you. The ACA helps the poor working class people that are TRYING to make a living working instead of relying on the government.
Yet you spread lies to try to kill the ACA. Biggest middle class tax hike in recent history? Nope. 100% fabricated. You can't even get your facts straight, you rely on people like Faux News to spoon feed you talking points. I can understand it from bitter illiterate old broken down people like Schmahl that can't even spell much less put a coherent thought together, but you post out of malice knowing full well that what you write is false.
You're right..5 million people did not apply for benefits. They just created accounts. I haven't seen any numbers on how many actually applied for benefits. And while I don't watch fox news, I have seen a number of other sources indicate that in fact, a good number of people do think this is free health care. Tax hikes

yikes!! http://jeffduncan.house.gov/full-list-obamaca...

If you think these won't affect the middle class more than anyone else, think harder. Hell, even the supreme court declared the mandate a tax. Not a fee. And you do realize that $10 our is $400 weekly before taxes don't you? Do you really think those folks are going to hand over $328 a month, or about a quarter of their income, for insurance? And one more thing. Don't go blaming me if those $10.00 hr workers give up and quit trying instead of working to better their own lot in life.

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