To smoke, or not? In Minn., that is the question

Mar 4, 2013 Full story: The State 77

Vanda smokes for only about a minute before dropping the cigarette into her coffee mug, but it's a pivotal moment that begins the character's transformation into an assertive woman.

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Winnipeg, Canada

#1 Mar 4, 2013
OR, To stink in Minn or not.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#3 Mar 4, 2013
More useless legislation from another nanny state politician. Doesn't this woman have anything better to do with her political power? And all of this for one constituent? For starters, she should do some research and understand that cigarette smoke does not contain the proper compounds to produce an allergic reaction. A waste of taxpayer funds.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Mar 4, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
More useless legislation from another nanny state politician. Doesn't this woman have anything better to do with her political power? And all of this for one constituent? For starters, she should do some research and understand that cigarette smoke does not contain the proper compounds to produce an allergic reaction. A waste of taxpayer funds.
actually a person can be allergic to it. a person depending on their genetics can be allergic to anything. this includes wool, carrots, etc.....
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/condit... Cigarette smoke contains a number of toxic chemicals and irritants. People with allergies may be more sensitive to cigarette smoke than others and research studies indicate that smoking may aggravate allergies.
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my husband happens to be allergic to cigarette smoke. those members of his family, like his sister & her husband know this, they will not smoke around him.

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#6 Mar 5, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
More useless legislation from another nanny state politician. Doesn't this woman have anything better to do with her political power? And all of this for one constituent? For starters, she should do some research and understand that cigarette smoke does not contain the proper compounds to produce an allergic reaction. A waste of taxpayer funds.
For one person. Absolutely insane.
liBeRALs

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Mar 5, 2013
We don't need the health risk or the stink in Minnesota. Let's raise the cigarette tax another couple bucks a pack and ban smoking in ALL public places, indoors or out!

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#9 Mar 5, 2013
liBeRALs wrote:
We don't need the health risk or the stink in Minnesota. Let's raise the cigarette tax another couple bucks a pack and ban smoking in ALL public places, indoors or out!
Why tax it at all? Oh, yeah. Social engineering and behavior modification through taxation. Is It really your goal to benefit off of the stupid poor people since that is the demographic that smokes more than others?

Why not be intellectually honest for once and simply ban smoking?

Banning things is a favorite pastime for Libs. And it works so well with everything doesn't it?

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#10 Mar 5, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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actually a person can be allergic to it. a person depending on their genetics can be allergic to anything. this includes wool, carrots, etc.....
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/condit... Cigarette smoke contains a number of toxic chemicals and irritants. People with allergies may be more sensitive to cigarette smoke than others and research studies indicate that smoking may aggravate allergies.
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my husband happens to be allergic to cigarette smoke. those members of his family, like his sister & her husband know this, they will not smoke around him.
That's not quite accurate. While the smoke may cause some discomfort or irritation for people already prone to allergies, it does not contain anything that can trigger a histamine reaction.(the root of allergic reactions) When the organic compound of tobacco burns, it is converted in to inorganic chemical compounds by the process of burning. Things like wool,peanuts, or carrots are still in an organic state. A histamine reaction can only be triggered by organic molecules.
liBeRALs

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Mar 5, 2013
Yes, you definitely could use some help.

Your freedom ends where it starts to intrude on the freedom of others, hence the smoking laws and high tobacco taxes, which most Americans agree with.

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#12 Mar 5, 2013
liBeRALs wrote:
Yes, you definitely could use some help.
Your freedom ends where it starts to intrude on the freedom of others, hence the smoking laws and high tobacco taxes, which most Americans agree with.
If only you believed what you just wrote.

However, it was a convenient answer for the bogus argument to tax and control smokers.

You are dishonest to your core and this proves it again.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#13 Mar 5, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
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Why tax it at all? Oh, yeah. Social engineering and behavior modification through taxation. Is It really your goal to benefit off of the stupid poor people since that is the demographic that smokes more than others?
Why not be intellectually honest for once and simply ban smoking?
Banning things is a favorite pastime for Libs. And it works so well with everything doesn't it?
It has nothing to do with regulating behavior or protecting people from themselves or others. It has everything to do with the fact that sin taxes are the low hanging fruit. Government never saw a tax it didn't like and once in place, they never go away. Banning tobacco, which would actually validate their concerns about the effect of smoking, would take away a massive amount of revenue that can he used for all sorts of nonsense.
liBeRALs

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Mar 5, 2013
I believe exactly what I wrote:

Your freedom ends where it starts to intrude on the freedom of others, hence the smoking laws and high tobacco taxes, which most Americans agree with.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#17 Mar 5, 2013
liBeRALs wrote:
I believe exactly what I wrote:
Your freedom ends where it starts to intrude on the freedom of others, hence the smoking laws and high tobacco taxes, which most Americans agree with.
"Most Americans" did not have an opportunity to vote on these issues therefore, your statement is a fallacy. The market was already moving in the direction of smoking and non-smoking establishments. But that was not good enough for the nanny staters who infringed on the rights of businesses to make the call. Smoking, or Non-smoking. They also took that choice away from the voters. If you knowingly walk in to a place that allows smoking and then complain about the smoke, you may have a right to complain but you are still an idiot.
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Mar 5, 2013
IMHO, when prices are a lot cheaper somewhere else there will be a supply chain to the cheaper place, like ND.

Think of the thousands of vehicles making the trip from ND to the Twin Cities?

An enterprising person can make a lot of money running butts for known friends etc.

Think about all the MJ being run from Mexico to Minnesota just to make a buck..

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#19 Mar 5, 2013
liBeRALs wrote:
I believe exactly what I wrote:
Your freedom ends where it starts to intrude on the freedom of others, hence the smoking laws and high tobacco taxes, which most Americans agree with.
I am not a smoker. And I am not offended if you are a smoker.

However, I am offended that you try to balance the budget of the government on the backs of ignorant poor people.

Those poor people can not afford your draconian taxes. Since they have an addiction to cigarettes, it is not their fault. It is an addiction that is beyond their control.

As a result, they will make poor decisions and cause their children to go without food before they go without smokes. Oh, the horrors of it!

Therefore, I think Food Stamps ought to be replaced by Cigarette Stamps so that all of the poor people can feed their children and not fell guilty about their addiction.
liBeRALs

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Mar 5, 2013
Your freedom ends where it starts to intrude on the freedom of others, hence the smoking laws and high tobacco taxes, which most Americans agree with.

If you are dumb enough to smoke, you deserve to pay the taxes.
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Mar 5, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
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I am not a smoker. And I am not offended if you are a smoker.
However, I am offended that you try to balance the budget of the government on the backs of ignorant poor people.
Those poor people can not afford your draconian taxes. Since they have an addiction to cigarettes, it is not their fault. It is an addiction that is beyond their control.
As a result, they will make poor decisions and cause their children to go without food before they go without smokes. Oh, the horrors of it!
Therefore, I think Food Stamps ought to be replaced by Cigarette Stamps so that all of the poor people can feed their children and not fell guilty about their addiction.
Butt Butt Butt, our Nanny State is out to protect the ignorant.

Like Michelle Obama dancing on TV wearing BLACK slacks to hide her HUGE arse, paid for by taxpayers. She was pimping weight watching.

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#22 Mar 5, 2013
liBeRALs wrote:
Your freedom ends where it starts to intrude on the freedom of others, hence the smoking laws and high tobacco taxes, which most Americans agree with.
If you are dumb enough to smoke, you deserve to pay the taxes.
It is an addiction. It is not their fault.

The government needs to support and help these people or their children will starve. Are you saying you want to kill the children of smokers?

No more Food Stamps. We need Cigarette Stamps now for all the poor people who are addicted to cigarettes.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#23 Mar 5, 2013
liBeRALs wrote:
Your freedom ends where it starts to intrude on the freedom of others, hence the smoking laws and high tobacco taxes, which most Americans agree with.
If you are dumb enough to smoke, you deserve to pay the taxes.
If you are dumb enough to enter a place that allows smoking, you deserve to be uncomfortable and have watery eyes and go home smelling bad.
liBeRALs

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Mar 5, 2013
Ralph wrote:
<quoted text>
Butt Butt Butt, our Nanny State is out to protect the ignorant.
Like Michelle Obama dancing on TV wearing BLACK slacks to hide her HUGE arse, paid for by taxpayers. She was pimping weight watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =XY9zyAJipBgXX
This post alone is a great reason to vote Democratic and evough to convince most normal people to do so.
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#25 Mar 5, 2013
liBeRALs wrote:
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This post alone is a great reason to vote Democratic and evough to convince most normal people to do so.
Your reponse BLANK STARE!!

You have no response to the facts I state..

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