For Twin Cities, digital TV transition off to a smooth start

The long-anticipated and much-ballyhooed digital-television transition has begun in the Twin Cities, and appears to be proceeding smoothly so far. Full Story
Really

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Jun 12, 2009
Why is the government paying for people to have leisure entertainment??? If people want TV, they should have to buy their own stupid converter boxes. I hate all this government give-away.
Phillup Macrevis

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jun 12, 2009
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Devils Advocate

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Jun 12, 2009
Really wrote:
Why is the government paying for people to have leisure entertainment??? If people want TV, they should have to buy their own stupid converter boxes. I hate all this government give-away.
The government is the one forcing us to change - why shouldn't they have to help convert?

JTY

Since: Sep 08

Lincoln, NE

#4 Jun 12, 2009
Really wrote:
Why is the government paying for people to have leisure entertainment??? If people want TV, they should have to buy their own stupid converter boxes. I hate all this government give-away.
Because analog TVs are a commodity grade item and digital TVs are still considered a luxury grade item.

If they didn't give these boxs away they would have their arses handed to them in law suites.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Jun 12, 2009
I didn't know they were giving away converter boxes. I want one.
Beer

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jun 12, 2009
Pour one out in memory of analog tv tonight.
Angry Tax Payer

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Jun 15, 2009
Devils Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
The government is the one forcing us to change - why shouldn't they have to help convert?
A great way to enforce planned obsolescence. They shouldn't give anyone a converter and force all your cheap a$$es to buy a new TV. Way to stimulate the economy. I bet you Circuit City would not of went bankrupt if that happened :).

Next year they should ban all gasoline engines, and make us buy a "converter engine" to covert to electric. Basically, have GM make the parts????
John B

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Jun 15, 2009
Angry Tax Payer wrote:
<quoted text>
A great way to enforce planned obsolescence. They shouldn't give anyone a converter and force all your cheap a$$es to buy a new TV. Way to stimulate the economy. I bet you Circuit City would not of went bankrupt if that happened :).
Next year they should ban all gasoline engines, and make us buy a "converter engine" to covert to electric. Basically, have GM make the parts????
The cards were $40 off the price of the box.They weren't FREE. I bought 2 in case one of them craps out. That also means I "stimulated" the economy. There's nothing wrong with the t.v. I have. By your thinking I should throw it away and buy an absurdly expensive new t.v. Some of us can't afford or need such a new "toy".
Your gotta have that new gadget mentality is truly sending the wrong message to todays' kids. You sound like a product of that situation. Please re read Devils Advocates' answer.
Angry Tax Payer

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Jun 15, 2009
John B wrote:
<quoted text>
The cards were $40 off the price of the box.They weren't FREE. I bought 2 in case one of them craps out. That also means I "stimulated" the economy. There's nothing wrong with the t.v. I have. By your thinking I should throw it away and buy an absurdly expensive new t.v. Some of us can't afford or need such a new "toy".
Your gotta have that new gadget mentality is truly sending the wrong message to todays' kids. You sound like a product of that situation. Please re read Devils Advocates' answer.
Who cares how much they were... my wall mount for my LCD cost more than that. Anyhow, you got ripped off for something that is free. Yes, I want the newest things so I don't have to complain about stuff not working or being outdated. I work hard for what I have. If it does not work and I really want it, I get another one.

Also, I was being sarcastic. People were saying why should the government give free handouts. In this case, they are the ones forcing the change so it makes sense for them to provide assistance. If they did not, what else can they impose on us?????????? I don't have to reread anything. I agree with what Devils Advocate said.
p t bull

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Jun 15, 2009
The giveaway was an industry subsidy. In a capitalist country, those who sell tvs and tv programs would pay for the boxes, or lose market share.
Angry Tax Payer

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Jun 15, 2009
p t bull wrote:
The giveaway was an industry subsidy. In a capitalist country, those who sell tvs and tv programs would pay for the boxes, or lose market share.
Dead on... next time I will just get to the point.

However, unless the industry provides a good or service with little or no substitute, then consumers have no choice but to purchase or live without. Gasoline is a good example....

Goods with little to no subsitutes should be regulated so a monopoly will not be imposed on consumers. That is where the government comes into play.
John B

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Jun 15, 2009
Angry Tax Payer wrote:
<quoted text>
Who cares how much they were... my wall mount for my LCD cost more than that. Anyhow, you got ripped off for something that is free. Yes, I want the newest things so I don't have to complain about stuff not working or being outdated. I work hard for what I have. If it does not work and I really want it, I get another one.
Also, I was being sarcastic. People were saying why should the government give free handouts. In this case, they are the ones forcing the change so it makes sense for them to provide assistance. If they did not, what else can they impose on us?????????? I don't have to reread anything. I agree with what Devils Advocate said.
My apologies.I guess I was reading it wrong.I was laid off so,I'm a little touchy when someone calls me a "cheap a@@".
Yes the discount cards were free, but I still had to pay the difference.

Since: Sep 08

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Jun 15, 2009
The changeover legislation was passed in 1997 and was originally supposed to take effect in 2006 at the latest. The amount budgeted for converter coupons was $1.5 billion and the income from auctioning off parts of the analog spectrum was estimated at $10 billion.

On top of the $10 I shelled out for the box, I'll have to cough up a bit more to pay for an amplified antenna. If this was a voluntary switchover or if there was a benefit in it, I wouldn't mind so much.

It'll be interesting to see if the government's plan works out.
Audrey C

Minneapolis, MN

#14 May 8, 2013
Where can I get tv service of local stations only
such as 2-17?
I have direct tv and to add a bedroom tv, they want almost $200.
Please let me know.
Audrey C

Minneapolis, MN

#15 May 8, 2013
How can I get local station tv hook-up?
I have Direct TV and they want $200 to add a tv.
No way!!
noseeums

Minneapolis, MN

#16 May 8, 2013
Audrey C wrote:
How can I get local station tv hook-up?
I have Direct TV and they want $200 to add a tv.
No way!!
You need a converter box, about $50. BestBuy and the like, or online.
DFL Waste

Minneapolis, MN

#17 May 8, 2013
Audrey C wrote:
How can I get local station tv hook-up?
I have Direct TV and they want $200 to add a tv.
No way!!
If your TV is a newer model the digital converter is built in so all you need in rabbit ears or other antenna.

The best reception is with an antenna high up with a straight shot at the Shoreview TV towers. Ya like the old roof mounted kind that went away in the 1960s.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#18 May 8, 2013
Poor dog breath, your advise is as dumb as the giver.
Noah Webster

Saint Paul, MN

#19 May 8, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Poor dog breath, your advise is as dumb as the giver.
Your 'advise'?

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