UNION strikes over 14.5 percent pay raise

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Nov 19, 2013
“You can go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics … and you will see the government sector is unionized at, I think, six times the rate as the private sector.” AND THIS IS WHY:

Taxpayers in Will County, Ill. have offered its public employees a HEFTY PAY RAISE and are willing to pick up 90 PERCENT of the cost for their health insurance, but that’s not good enough for members of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees Local 1028.

Its 1,300 members went on strike Monday, decrying a “paltry” offer from the county that would have given workers a 14.5 percent pay hike and have taxpayers pay for the overwhelming majority of their health insurance costs.

“That gives an indication of just how out of touch government workers are,” Steve Stanek, a research fellow at the Heartland Institute, told Illinois Watchdog.“I think they’ve become more radicalized and more out of touch as they have become more unionized.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/19/il...
Hey

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Nov 19, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
“You can go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics … and you will see the government sector is unionized at, I think, six times the rate as the private sector.” AND THIS IS WHY:
Taxpayers in Will County, Ill. have offered its public employees a HEFTY PAY RAISE and are willing to pick up 90 PERCENT of the cost for their health insurance, but that’s not good enough for members of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees Local 1028.
Its 1,300 members went on strike Monday, decrying a “paltry” offer from the county that would have given workers a 14.5 percent pay hike and have taxpayers pay for the overwhelming majority of their health insurance costs.
“That gives an indication of just how out of touch government workers are,” Steve Stanek, a research fellow at the Heartland Institute, told Illinois Watchdog.“I think they’ve become more radicalized and more out of touch as they have become more unionized.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/19/il...
A classic example of the Cancer growing in Government. May we call it Gancer, it consumed Detroit and killed off the host.

Unions have no shame, no consideration for long term health of the host they leech from. They will sap every last ounce of nutrition from a host and not stop until the host is consumed and dead. IMHO, Unions have no place in Government because if Libertards are in control of the Government it rolls over for the Unions and give away the store. That would be where Minnesota is at right now with taxes skyrocketing.

There will be NO economic growth with Government wasteing BILLIONS.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Nov 19, 2013
Dutch wrote:
<quoted text>Foxnews is not real news idiot it's just another one of Rupert Murdock tabloids gossip rags.
also why do you hate workers getting a fair wage for a fair days work? is it because you're stuck on a limited income? set by the government? huh loser?
No matter what YOU think of Fox, it doesn't change the story being covered. That UNION, like YOU is out of touch with reality.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Nov 19, 2013
Dutch wrote:
<quoted text>Hey don't you wish that you would have been smart enough
to have gotten a government job instead of blaming government employee's and other worker for having a sucessful career?
Hey, there may still be time. The government is always growing...
Rattler

Cave Creek, AZ

#7 Nov 19, 2013
Dutch wrote:
<quoted text>Hey don't you wish that you would have been smart enough
to have gotten a government job instead of blaming government employee's and other worker for having a sucessful career?
Public school? Janitor for the city?

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#10 Nov 19, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
“You can go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics … and you will see the government sector is unionized at, I think, six times the rate as the private sector.” AND THIS IS WHY:

“That gives an indication of just how out of touch government workers are,” Steve Stanek, a research fellow at the Heartland Institute, told Illinois Watchdog.“I think they’ve become more radicalized and more out of touch as they have become more unionized.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/19/il...
They're not out of touch, they are "entitled". Or so they believe. They are "entitled" to make as much money as everyone else because it's only fair. Why? Because, that's why! Because it's only fair that everyone make the same salary, that's why! Regardless of education, experience, etc.

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digger

Plymouth, MN

#12 Nov 19, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
“You can go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics … and you will see the government sector is unionized at, I think, six times the rate as the private sector.” AND THIS IS WHY:
Taxpayers in Will County, Ill. have offered its public employees a HEFTY PAY RAISE and are willing to pick up 90 PERCENT of the cost for their health insurance, but that’s not good enough for members of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees Local 1028.
Its 1,300 members went on strike Monday, decrying a “paltry” offer from the county that would have given workers a 14.5 percent pay hike and have taxpayers pay for the overwhelming majority of their health insurance costs.
“That gives an indication of just how out of touch government workers are,” Steve Stanek, a research fellow at the Heartland Institute, told Illinois Watchdog.“I think they’ve become more radicalized and more out of touch as they have become more unionized.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/19/il...
They should be taking a pay CUT, and have to DOUBLE their health-care premium payments. These idiot union thugs are a bunch of GREEDY MORONS.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#13 Nov 20, 2013
digger wrote:
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They should be taking a pay CUT, and have to DOUBLE their health-care premium payments. These idiot union thugs are a bunch of GREEDY MORONS.
At the very least, they should not be looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Dutch

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Nov 20, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
No matter what YOU think of Fox, it doesn't change the story being covered. That UNION, like YOU is out of touch with reality.
Why is my comments being deleted? what did I say that was wrong? was it that I support unions and don't support right to work laws(work for less) hmmm hey Libby when you think that you deserve a raise what do you worker do knock on the boss office door and say boss can I have a two buck raise this year boss? huh hahaha Boss NO GO BACK TO WORK Idiot before I fire you IDIOT.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#15 Nov 20, 2013
Dutch wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is my comments being deleted? what did I say that was wrong? was it that I support unions and don't support right to work laws(work for less) hmmm hey Libby when you think that you deserve a raise what do you worker do knock on the boss office door and say boss can I have a two buck raise this year boss? huh hahaha Boss NO GO BACK TO WORK Idiot before I fire you IDIOT.
If the boss values your skill set and work ethic enough, there is a decent chance he/she will indeed consider a pay increase. However, if you storm his/her office, demand a raise, and threaten to go on strike if you don't get it, don't hold your breath.

Or, if you want a pay increase, you can also look elsewhere for someone who is willing to pay what you ask. It's always easier to find another job while you are currently employed.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Dec 13, 2013
(AP) Poll: Californians gradually souring on unions
LOS ANGELES
California has long been a union stronghold, but voters in the strongly Democratic state are gradually taking a more negative view of organized labor, a poll released Friday suggested.

The independent Field Poll said that by a narrow margin, more voters said UNIONS do MORE HARM than good, as opposed to those who see organized labor as generally beneficial.

The slide in support represents a turnaround from a 2011 Field survey, when more voters said unions resulted in more good than harm.

The shift comes at a time of ongoing labor conflicts in the state and nation, often involving government employee pensions and retirement benefits.

In the San Francisco Bay Area, two transit strikes this year caused headaches for hundreds of thousands of commuters. Retirement costs for government workers contributed to bankruptcies in three California cities in recent years _ Stockton, Vallejo and San Bernardino.

The cost of "public pensions are starting to crowd out the services that local governments can provide. That doesn't sit well with the public," pollster Mark DiCamillo said.

Compared to the earlier poll, unions lost ground across most age, political and demographic groups.

Since 2011 "virtually every voter subgroup now displays a shift toward a somewhat more negative view of labor unions than they had expressed previously," the survey found.

The poll of 1,002 registered voters, conducted Nov. 14 to Dec. 5, found that 45 percent said labor unions do "more harm than good."

That compared to 40 percent who said unions do "more good than harm."

The findings were nearly identical when voters were asked about labor unions, generally, or public employee unions.

Those viewing unions more negatively increased 10 percentage points from March 2011, while the percentage of those viewing unions as more beneficial dropped 6 points during the period, the survey said.

The Democratic Party has long had close ties to unions, but the survey found 30 percent of registered Democrats now say unions do more harm than good, up from 21 percent in the 2011 survey.

More than half of whites, 51 percent, say unions do more harm than good, up from 39 percent in 2011. Even in households with a union member, 31 percent said unions do more harm than good, up from 18 percent in 2011.

Several California mayors want voters to consider an initiative on next year's ballot that would amend the state Constitution to allow local governments to negotiate changes in pension benefits for current and future employees.

Last year, labor groups and other Democratic interests funneled at least $75 million into their drive to defeat Proposition 32, which would have starved unions of the tens of millions of dollars they use to finance campaigns and political organizing.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Dec 13, 2013
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