Posted in the Minneapolis Forum
#1 Jul 14, 2013
This might sound like a legal conundrum:
A Florida jury has pronounced George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin.
But a court could still hold him accountable for the death.
Martin's family so far has only commented that it wants the public to respect the Florida court's verdict.
Two options, however, are available: A civil suit, or a civil rights suit.
Though they sound similar, they are very different.
A civil suit allows one party to seek monetary damages against another for causing physical or emotional harm, regardless of the outcome of a criminal trial.
A civil rights suit involves criminal charges for violating someone's civil rights, which are protected under federal law.
Take what happened to O.J. Simpson 17 years ago.
After a criminal court acquitted him of charges in the 1994 killing of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson, a civil court held him responsible in 1997 for her "wrongful death."
It ordered him to pay her family more than $33 million in damages. Various courts then stripped Simpson of every asset they could get their hands on.
Wrongful death is easier to prove than murder or manslaughter.
A defendant can be held liable, even if he or she didn't intend to cause the victim's death, according to Florida law.
Simple negligence is enough, if it results in death.
Did Zimmerman act negligently, when he exited his vehicle to pursue Martin on foot while carrying a gun -- although a 911 operator told him not to?
Would the 17-year-old still be alive if Zimmerman had not done so?
Those are questions a lawyer for Martin's family would be sure to ask in a wrongful death suit.
Martin's family has so given no indication so far of wanting to pursue an additional suit.
But someone else has.
Civil rights suit
The NAACP is pushing the U.S. Department of Justice to file a civil rights suit.
They accuse Zimmerman of racial profiling that led to Martin's death -- an allegation that Zimmerman and his supporters have denied.
"The most fundamental of civil rights -- the right to life -- was violated the night George Zimmerman stalked and then took the life of Trayvon Martin," the group said.
NAACP President Benjamin Jealous told CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday that remarks made by Zimmerman and people who live in his Sanford, Florida, neighborhood had sparked the group's concern.
"When you look at (Zimmerman's) comments, and when you look at comments made by young black men who lived in that neighborhood about how they felt especially targeted by him, there is reason to be concerned that race was a factor in why he targeted young Trayvon," Jealous said.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson told CNN's "New Day" on Sunday that his Rainbow PUSH Coalition also wants the Justice Department to look into possible civil rights violations in the case.
"There's a Trayvon in every town," he said. "That's why the Department of Justice has a role to play, to look at this pattern, because equal protection under the law remains elusive."
The Justice Department did not respond directly to the NAACP demand. It has a separate federal investigation going on.
It's a legal path that worked in the case of Rodney King, whom Los Angeles police officers clubbed down in 1991 after a car chase.
The beating of the African-American man was caught on video and later aired on news broadcasts.
When a criminal court failed to convict the white officers of police brutality, riots ensued in Los Angeles over alleged racial discrimination.
The Justice Department filed a civil rights suit against the officers, alleging racial profiling, and two were convicted in 1993 as a result.
A court sentenced them to 30 months in federal prison.
#2 Jul 14, 2013
A total of 31% of high school kids declared they were involved in fights last year. They have to be told, now conservatives have made it legal to murder, claiming self-defense ....if losing a fight, even against unarmed kids. So, look for kids to go to school armed come summer's end. And who can blame them, lest they be shot first?
I figure, if half the kids in fights are killed every year by bloody-nosed opponents, that'll result in a high school class losing over 15% of students annually or about half the kids from shootings, in their three years of attendance. Nationwide, that'll amount to about 7 million high school kids killed every three years from kids defending themselves.
But conservatives continue to assure us, guns are great for elevating fights and saving lives. Of course, if white kids start getting killed by black kids, you just watch and see how fast these,'don't play the race card' racists have a rapid change of heart and second thoughts about 'stand your ground,''right to murder' laws.
#4 Jul 14, 2013
Guns are great for self defense. As a senior citizen , female, a gun is the only hope I have of survival when a nut case, or punk, or bully, or thief decides to attack me for observing what they are up to in my neighborhood. I don't care what age or color or sex they are. if they choose to attack me for freely walking in my own neighborhood and then overpower me with threats and assaults, a single bullet to stop them from further harming me is reasonable.
The dumb ---es shouldn't assault someone. Following at a distance is reasonable to determine where the suspicious person went. No law against that. NOTHING else is relevant. The dispatcher was likely concerned for the safety of Zimmerman if he got too close to the suspicious party sneaking between buildings. Obviously, they were correct to be concerned. The person was a punk and chose run down and beat a stranger rather than go away. History of violence and criminal behavior of a punk.
NOTHING has proven Zimmerman continued to follow or chase down. EVERYTHING proved he had reason to be concerned about the safety of his community and observe. STUPID people believe a person would call the police for help if they intended to kill someone. STUPID PEOPLE believe an intent to kill would result in one shot fired while being assaulted. ONE SHOT. Get a clue and get over it.
#5 Jul 14, 2013
Lotta blather, no facts....
Calling a dead kid names, when there was nothing criminal that night on Trayvon's part shows racist disrespect FOR LIFE....
Gun violence WILL be normal now, GET REAL !!!
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