Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6 billion rounds of ammo

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Mar 11, 2013
Much of this ammo purchase order is for rounds forbidden by international law for use in war plus a frightening amount specialized for snipers.

WHY?

http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_2259...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/0...
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#2 Mar 11, 2013
Reasons are in the text, are you daft ??

Federal solicitations to buy the ammo are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga. The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Mar 11, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Reasons are in the text, are you daft ??
Federal solicitations to buy the ammo are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga. The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.
You must be "daft" if you think that Janet Napolitano purchasing enough ammo to last 20 years is being done simply because they are getting a low price.

How do you explain the recent purchase of Navistar Defense MaxxPro MRAP vehicles for service on the streets of the United States?
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Mar 11, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
Much of this ammo purchase order is for rounds forbidden by international law for use in war plus a frightening amount specialized for snipers.
WHY?
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_2259...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/0...
Agree, using hollowpoint bullets not only is illegal in war but hollow points do not penetrate as well as full metal jacket bullets.

My understanding a lot of street COPs have the first round in their handgun a hollowpoint because they will stop a person with maximum expansion with all other rounds being full metal jacket for an extended shootout where a perp might seek cover behind a car door or other barrier.

To use ALL hollowpoint ammo is a mistake.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Mar 11, 2013
And, if they were really trying to save money, MOST of their ammo purchase could have been wad cutters ore something very inexpensive like that. You only really need the good stuff for non-training situations.

I don't know, there seems to be a lot of holes in their stories.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#6 Mar 11, 2013
Could it be that this is an attempt to create an ammo shortage and drive up the prices even further?
I mean, does HSA even have enough armed employees to account for this much ammo?
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Mar 11, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
Could it be that this is an attempt to create an ammo shortage and drive up the prices even further?
I mean, does HSA even have enough armed employees to account for this much ammo?
Hve you looked for ammo recently? They have done a good job of slowing down the supply to consumers...
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Mar 11, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
Could it be that this is an attempt to create an ammo shortage and drive up the prices even further?
I mean, does HSA even have enough armed employees to account for this much ammo?
Government doesn't account for anything very well.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#9 Mar 11, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
Hve you looked for ammo recently? They have done a good job of slowing down the supply to consumers...
Yes I have. The most common rounds like 380, 9mm and 40 are kind of hard to find. Also, there is a noticeable shortage of CC type weapons. As others have mentioned, Obama is the best gun salesman in the country.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#10 Mar 11, 2013
As others have mentioned, it's nice to blame Obama for everything, after bushwhacker screwed up the country so badly, he wasn't invited to the RNC convention.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#11 Mar 11, 2013
Obama...the number one gun salesman in the country as noted on the Huffington Post, of all places. And not even one mention of either of the Bush presidencies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/obam...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/o...

Naturally, these articles and their content will be summarily ignored by the low information, no integrity posters on this site.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#12 Mar 11, 2013
The government's explanation is less sinister. Federal solicitations to buy the ammo are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga. The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#13 Mar 11, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
Obama...the number one gun salesman in the country as noted on the Huffington Post, of all places. And not even one mention of either of the Bush presidencies.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/obam...
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/o...
Naturally, these articles and their content will be summarily ignored by the low information, no integrity posters on this site.
A gun nut quote ??? Guess, you're 483, since I can quote you, right cantgetitup ??? LMAOROTFu..

Now show me your fellow gun's nutter's receipt, from Obama.
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Mar 11, 2013
Bushwhacked wrote:
The government's explanation is less sinister. Federal solicitations to buy the ammo are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga. The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.
What's the shelf life of ammo?

Their purchase of 1.6 BILLION rounds will last 106 years if they burn up 15,000,000 rounds a year. Is that right??

I it don't make sense somone is not telling the truth.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#15 Mar 11, 2013
15,094,339. Give or take.
And with over 200,000 employees, that's 8000 rounds per employee.(Assuming all of your employees are armed.)
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#16 Mar 11, 2013
Reasons are in the text, are you daft ??

Federal solicitations to buy the ammo are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga. The training center and {others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year}, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.

Lots of training centers and drama driven teabaggers....
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Mar 11, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
15,094,339. Give or take.
And with over 200,000 employees, that's 8000 rounds per employee.(Assuming all of your employees are armed.)
Having been in the military, I'll tell ya our annual qualifications consumed about 20 rounds of ammo, one 20 round magazine. I was in the Army during wartime. 8,000 rounds per person is a hell-of-a-lot of shooting, and no way are they all armed.

This situation seems a lot like when the mayor of Maplewood exclaimed "if we buy 10 widgets we save $1,000, so maybe we should buy 100 widgets so we can save $10,000?"

You know the sound judgement of Government.

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