Leader of bicycle group hit by car du...

Leader of bicycle group hit by car during ride in Oakdale

There are 140 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 31, 2010, titled Leader of bicycle group hit by car during ride in Oakdale. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Dorian Grilley of Mahtomedi will undergo two surgeries on his shoulders. Dorian Grilley, executive director of Bicycle Alliance of Minnesota, is recovering from injuries he suffered when the bicycle he was riding was struck by a car at the intersection of Hadley Avenue North and the Gateway State Trail in Oakdale.

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ignorant

Inver Grove Heights, MN

#1 Aug 31, 2010
maybe he should have looked both ways sometimes these people never even look when crossing roads because they just feel they have the right of way but should remember the good old defensive driving whether car or bike

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Daniel

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Sep 1, 2010
Hopefully this wasn't another instance of the driver texting or talking on her cell phone and not paying attention to the act of driving.
Get well soon and back on 2-wheels!
tww

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Sep 1, 2010
Bicyclist never follow the rules of the road. They ride 2 or 3 abreast down highways, dont stop at stop signs, dont stay on the shoulder, etc. its amazing more of them dont get hit.

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g-del

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Sep 1, 2010
and you wonder why insurance rates are high-------how much is going to cost after the law-suit
Tom E

United States

#5 Sep 1, 2010
tww wrote:
Bicyclist never follow the rules of the road. They ride 2 or 3 abreast down highways, dont stop at stop signs, dont stay on the shoulder, etc. its amazing more of them dont get hit.
Agreed. I understand and respect the rights of bicyclists, but the way some of them indignantly ride amongst traffic defies logic.
Alex

Somerville, MA

#6 Sep 1, 2010
"Because vehicles are required to stop for bicyclists and pedestrians at the intersection, she was cited for a right-of-way violation. "

The Bicyclist had the right of way! Read the article next time!

Durrrrrrr
Bird

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Sep 1, 2010
What a shame his spandex outfit didn't protect him better.
Beaver Cleaver

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Sep 1, 2010
Daniel wrote:
Hopefully this wasn't another instance of the driver texting or talking on her cell phone and not paying attention to the act of driving.
Get well soon and back on 2-wheels!
More than likely it was the snooty, entitled bicycle rider, head down or looking away from traffic, speeding across the intersection unchecked. If he hadn't been hit, he would have flipped off the driver...

I have rarely, if ever, seen a car/bike encounter than wasn't initated by a bicyclist.

"Start Seeing Cars"

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Dear Bike Haters

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Sep 1, 2010
Lemme see. Cars are supposed to stop for pedestrians and cyclists. Dorian was on a bicycle. He had a right of way. Therefore he was wrong because

1) maybe he should have looked both ways sometimes these people never even look when crossing roads because they just feel they have the right of way but should remember the good old defensive driving whether car or bike

2) Bicyclist never follow the rules of the road. They ride 2 or 3 abreast down highways, dont stop at stop signs, dont stay on the shoulder, etc. its amazing more of them dont get hit.

3) but the way some of them indignantly ride amongst traffic defies logic.
Spandexxx

United States

#10 Sep 1, 2010
I don't know what's worse, that his name is Dorian or that he is an "executive" director of a bicylce group
Jerry

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Sep 1, 2010
Smart cycling during rush hour too.
Henry

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Sep 1, 2010
Spandexxx wrote:
I don't know what's worse, that his name is Dorian or that he is an "executive" director of a bicylce group
It's possibly worse that you can't spell the word "bicycle".....
trolls

Hugo, MN

#13 Sep 1, 2010
What happened to walking your bike across intersections?
FrankL

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Sep 1, 2010
As one who knows that intersection, the bike trail parallels a 4 lane highway and crosses about 50 feet in front of the stop light. It is a very poor design as you have room for two cars between the bike trail and the stop light with the rest of the cars waiting 3 abreast behind the line designating the bike trail. The cars are controlled by the stoplight, but the bikes have no traffic control. There are building an overpass for the trail to relieve this situation. However, once again we have a biker (pedestrians also do this) that wants to have his gravestone marked "I Had the Right of Way".
Vikings Fan

Rochester, MN

#15 Sep 1, 2010
Dear Bike Haters wrote:
Lemme see. Cars are supposed to stop for pedestrians and cyclists. Dorian was on a bicycle. He had a right of way. Therefore he was wrong because
1) maybe he should have looked both ways sometimes these people never even look when crossing roads because they just feel they have the right of way but should remember the good old defensive driving whether car or bike
2) Bicyclist never follow the rules of the road. They ride 2 or 3 abreast down highways, dont stop at stop signs, dont stay on the shoulder, etc. its amazing more of them dont get hit.
3) but the way some of them indignantly ride amongst traffic defies logic.
Not saying all bike riders are bad. However, I have wittnessed bike riders blowing through stop signs, making left turns (no hand signal) against traffic at intersections, and have been one of 15 vehicles going 10-15 mph stuck behind a group of bicyclists taking up half of the highway lane that we are in before we can pass around them due to on-coming traffic. Bicyclists have to obey the same rules of the road as motorized vehicles, but somehow many of them feel they are subject to pedestrian laws, therefore they can do whatever they want. Maybe it's a good idea to require bicyclists to obtain insurance just like motorists are required to have. Minnesota is a no-fault state, so the bicyclists would be covered by their own insurance. Better yet, how about requiring turn signals, lights, horns, etc. on bikes.
BOOPSIE

Becker, MN

#16 Sep 1, 2010
FrankL wrote:
As one who knows that intersection, the bike trail parallels a 4 lane highway and crosses about 50 feet in front of the stop light. It is a very poor design as you have room for two cars between the bike trail and the stop light with the rest of the cars waiting 3 abreast behind the line designating the bike trail. The cars are controlled by the stoplight, but the bikes have no traffic control. There are building an overpass for the trail to relieve this situation. However, once again we have a biker (pedestrians also do this) that wants to have his gravestone marked "I Had the Right of Way".
I drive this route every day and the trail clearly has stop signs posted from the east and west. This is a very heavily travelled intersection (especially with the 694 construction) and if the bikers have the right of way then traffic turning south on Hadley from Hwy 36 would be backed up into the east bound lanes of Hwy 36. So, the bikers have stop signs but the cars are supposed to yield and back up traffic? Also, the overpass is being built at Hwy 36 and Hwy 120(Century Ave), not at Hadley. It is poorly designed and the bikers/walkers/rollerbladers should have to yield
smartie

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Sep 1, 2010
Oh! Oh! I can see another $1million appropriated by the next Legislature to construct a bridge over Hadley. Oh what the heck, make it $5million.
Aurora

Portland, OR

#18 Sep 1, 2010
The man was even on a bike trail, haters.

The intersection is awkward, because a cyclist can in fact look both ways and have clearance, but a sudden right turn off of MN36 can suddenly put a car into one of the lanes of Hadley. Depending on the direction of travel, the cyclist may already be in the crosswalk when the car moves onto Hadley.

FYI: Cyclists who also own cars are covered by their car insurance while cycling.
Danno

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Sep 1, 2010
FrankL wrote:
As one who knows that intersection, the bike trail parallels a 4 lane highway and crosses about 50 feet in front of the stop light. It is a very poor design as you have room for two cars between the bike trail and the stop light with the rest of the cars waiting 3 abreast behind the line designating the bike trail. The cars are controlled by the stoplight, but the bikes have no traffic control. There are building an overpass for the trail to relieve this situation. However, once again we have a biker (pedestrians also do this) that wants to have his gravestone marked "I Had the Right of Way".
I frequent that intersection as well (on way to Fleet Farm) and you're right, the design is dangerous, especially for a careless baker around rush hour or on a weekend. Coming off of hwy36 she probably had little or no time or space to even yeild. If memory serves though, isn't there a small 'stop' for the bikers as well? I often see cars just parked on the crossing waiting for the light to change with bikers weaving between cars and not looking for anyone coming off the highway so it may be time to set up a cross and flower/balloon sale stand nearby!
Danno

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Sep 1, 2010
Oops, meant "biker" not "baker," though a careless baker would certainly run the same risk.

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