American Crystal Sugar Update

American Crystal Sugar Update

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Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jul 26, 2012
The Leftist MPR is saying the union is toast.

A union member says the union was unprepared.

ACS is moving forward with permanent replacement workers.

Sounds like the following is quite accurate.

Just say "NO!" to jobs.
Just say "NO!" to a 14% wage increase.

Just say "YES!" to union bosses.
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#4 Jul 26, 2012
Poor liar fred, with IT'S wet bed...

Always writing about a 14% increase, but it's over 5 years and minus a HUGE health care cost increase...

Seems like a pay cut to anyone with a brain, wet bed fred....
Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Jul 26, 2012
Even the Libs are saying the union is DOA. Give it up Sludge.

The union F'd up big time.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#6 Jul 26, 2012
Funny, I missed the memo/lie...Just like you seem to get the numbers WRONG EVERY TIME...LIAR/LOSER ~! LMAOROTFU~!
Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Jul 26, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
Funny, I missed the memo/lie...Just like you seem to get the numbers WRONG EVERY TIME...LIAR/LOSER ~! LMAOROTFU~!
A few selected quotes from the article:

“But at $59 per ton, payments to growers for the 2011 crop were still the second highest on record”

“Rahm, who doubts he'll ever return to his old job at American Crystal”

“Union leaders told workers the lockout would never last more than a month or two”

“In a lockout, a union does not have much leverage, said John Budd, a professor of human resources and industrial relations at the University of Minnesota Carlson School of Management.”

"And at some point I think the likely outcome is that the union will just give up its representation rights.”

No memo will be written. RIP to the union jobs at American Crystal Sugar.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#8 Jul 26, 2012
SO, this is SUPPOSED to be your proof libs gave up, an opinion piece which says prices are down ??? WOW ! I'd call you dumb, but it's redundant..

So, what happened to the $73 per ton paid last year for the 2010 crop. Kinda down to $69 per ton, huh ???

John Riskey, president of the local union, believes economic pressure will force a settlement before the October harvest. The big question, he said, is whether farmers want to again take a loss.

"I know that the farmers just do not want to go down that path again," he said. "There is no reason why this can't come to a settlement. And Crystal Sugar has to come to the table with an agreement and negotiate and settle this."
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#9 Jul 26, 2012
Shoot, it's DOWN to $59 from $73, huh ??? Heard the competition is HIGHER, is that bad ??? LMAOROTfu~! Nice to hear abot plant fires, keeping the scabs busy/warm and on their toes...
Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Jul 26, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
SO, this is SUPPOSED to be your proof libs gave up, an opinion piece which says prices are down ??? WOW ! I'd call you dumb, but it's redundant..
So, what happened to the $73 per ton paid last year for the 2010 crop. Kinda down to $69 per ton, huh ???
John Riskey, president of the local union, believes economic pressure will force a settlement before the October harvest. The big question, he said, is whether farmers want to again take a loss.
"I know that the farmers just do not want to go down that path again," he said. "There is no reason why this can't come to a settlement. And Crystal Sugar has to come to the table with an agreement and negotiate and settle this."
Sure Sludge. The President of the local union is a good source for what is going to happen in the future. After all, he was right about the workers going back in two months, right? NOT!

Even a union member in an article by a Leftist news source says he will never get his job back.

DOA. Bye-bye union jobs in Fargo. Thank you to the union bosses.
Fred

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Jul 26, 2012
We need to make sure that no one can survive working full time at an hourly job. I want them to need food stamps, assistance paying their heat bills and have no health care. How else could I feel big and strong and have something to beetch about on Topix with my idol Schmahl?
Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Jul 27, 2012
Fred wrote:
We need to make sure that no one can survive working full time at an hourly job. I want them to need food stamps, assistance paying their heat bills and have no health care. How else could I feel big and strong and have something to beetch about on Topix with my idol Schmahl?
Are you this big of a coward that you have to try to sabatoge other people's names?
Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Jul 29, 2012
July 26, 2012 10:55 AM

AFL-CIO head pledges support on sugar lockout

ST. PAUL, Minn.— The president of the AFL-CIO is pledging his support for locked-out union workers at American Crystal Sugar.

Richard Trumka was in St. Paul Wednesday for what was billed as a major announcement. Trumka said the AFL-CIO would coordinate with the union for American Crystal Workers, but announced no specific actions.

More than 1,300 workers have been locked out of their jobs since last Aug. 1 at facilities in Minnesota, North Dakota and Iowa.

Union representative Mark Froemke calls the AFL-CIO support "extremely useful."

Moorhead-based American Crystal Sugar is the largest sugar beet processor in the country. Union workers have rejected its contract proposal three times over seniority and job security concerns. The company says it's a good offer with substantial increases in wages and benefits.

No talks are scheduled.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-574805...

Ummmmm...no specific actions? Why not just say there is no support from the AFL-CIO?

Even the national union is turning their back on the stupid union members that voted down the most recent contract.
Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Jul 29, 2012
My mistake.

"The AFL-CIO has given the local union workers 25 thousand dollars to start with, according to local Crystal union leader John Riskey."

http://www.valleynewslive.com/story/19115191/...

The AFL-CIO is giving $25K to the local union. That equates to $19 per member. Wow! That is really throwing the national union’s support behind the local workers, isn’t it?

Compare that to the $4,510,000 donated to political candidates in 2010 by the PAC for the AFL-CIO.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php...

The AFL-CIO gave 180 times as much to political candidates as they did to their own loyal members (who have been out of work for one year with no unemployment benefits or strike fund). WTF? Really? THAT is how much they think of the chances for success in Fargo?

More proof the union is toast in Fargo. Way to go with voting down that most recent contract you very intelligent union members!
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#15 Jul 29, 2012
Fred wrote:
My mistake.
"The AFL-CIO has given the local union workers 25 thousand dollars to start with, according to local Crystal union leader John Riskey."
http://www.valleynewslive.com/story/19115191/...
The AFL-CIO is giving $25K to the local union. That equates to $19 per member. Wow! That is really throwing the national union’s support behind the local workers, isn’t it?
Compare that to the $4,510,000 donated to political candidates in 2010 by the PAC for the AFL-CIO.
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php...
The AFL-CIO gave 180 times as much to political candidates as they did to their own loyal members (who have been out of work for one year with no unemployment benefits or strike fund). WTF? Really? THAT is how much they think of the chances for success in Fargo?
More proof the union is toast in Fargo. Way to go with voting down that most recent contract you very intelligent union members!
WOW !!?? Nice lie, wet the bed fred...It's only $19 per member if the locked out workers are all still outta work and when you donate $25k, instead of the $10 you claimed, you can be a "big man", again...YOU DO REMEMBER CROWING ABOUT your $10, right hypocrite ??? Poor hypocrite, pretending the $25k is the end, when you don't have a clue-SURPRISE ~! Hey tubby, your $10 came to 1/2 cent per worker, right ?? LMAOROTFu~!
Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Jul 29, 2012
Seattle Slew wrote:
<quoted text>WOW !!?? Nice lie, wet the bed fred...It's only $19 per member if the locked out workers are all still outta work and when you donate $25k, instead of the $10 you claimed, you can be a "big man", again...YOU DO REMEMBER CROWING ABOUT your $10, right hypocrite ??? Poor hypocrite, pretending the $25k is the end, when you don't have a clue-SURPRISE ~! Hey tubby, your $10 came to 1/2 cent per worker, right ?? LMAOROTFu~!
Let's see...

$25,000 divided by 1,300 union members equals...

$19.23 per member.

Sludge, there is a new invention called the abacus. In fact, there is even rumors that the Russians have created an electronic version of the abacus called a calculator.

Maybe when you get your job back after being fired from the the Post Office, you will get skooled in the use of those things.

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Gosh, that is a huge donation from the national AFL-CIO. I bet Trumka's monthly expense account is more than what the union donated to their loyal members who have been out of work for one full year.

Even the AFL-CIO says the union is toast in Fargo. Bye-bye union jobs.
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#17 Jul 29, 2012
WOW !!?? Nice lie, wet the bed fred...It's only $19 per member if the locked out workers are all still outta work and when you donate $25k, instead of the $10 you claimed, you can be a "big man", again...YOU DO REMEMBER CROWING ABOUT your $10, right hypocrite ??? Poor hypocrite, pretending the $25k is the end, when you don't have a clue-SURPRISE ~! Hey tubby, your $10 came to 1/2 cent per worker, right ?? LMAOROTFu~!
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#18 Jul 29, 2012
Fred wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see...
$25,000 divided by 1,300 union members equals...
$19.23 per member.
Sludge, there is a new invention called the abacus. In fact, there is even rumors that the Russians have created an electronic version of the abacus called a calculator.
Maybe when you get your job back after being fired from the the Post Office, you will get skooled in the use of those things.
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Gosh, that is a huge donation from the national AFL-CIO. I bet Trumka's monthly expense account is more than what the union donated to their loyal members who have been out of work for one full year.
Even the AFL-CIO says the union is toast in Fargo. Bye-bye union jobs.
Let's see...
$10 divided by 1,300 union members equals...
.0071 per member.
fred, there is a new invention called the abacus. In fact, there is even rumors that the Russians have created an electronic version of the abacus called a calculator.
Maybe when you get your job back after being fired from the the whatever, you will get skooled in the use of those things.
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I'm SURE "skooling" you the the here ~! LMAROTFu~!
Fred

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Jul 29, 2012
Seattle Slew wrote:
<quoted text>Let's see...
$10 divided by 1,300 union members equals...
.0071 per member.
fred, there is a new invention called the abacus. In fact, there is even rumors that the Russians have created an electronic version of the abacus called a calculator.
Maybe when you get your job back after being fired from the the whatever, you will get skooled in the use of those things.
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I'm SURE "skooling" you the the here ~! LMAROTFu~!
And you would not even donate $10 to the food shelf for your union brothers and sisters. You really are one benevelent SOB, aren't you Sludge?
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#20 Jul 29, 2012
Seem to forget... I donated $18k, right liar fired fred, with your wet bed... You really are a stupid POS, aren't you...now breath in, then out... LMAOROTFu~!

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Since: Aug 12

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#23 Aug 17, 2012
I heard that the union was calling for a "sit down" to negotiate again with management this past week.

I wonder how that went?

Say NO! to jobs.
Say NO! to higher wages.

Say YES! to union bosses.
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#24 Aug 17, 2012
If you heard it, it's gotta be McFry McGossip, McFred...

Say no to poor pay
Say no to mis-management
Say no thanks to losers, who couldn't do the work, but cat bird comment...

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