Single moms are making us broke, says Joe Soucheray

Posted in the Minneapolis Forum

Comments
1 - 20 of 136 Comments Last updated May 11, 2013
First Prev
of 7
Next Last

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#1
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

3

3

3

It was reported the other day on an inside page of the Pioneer Press, and without nearly enough fanfare, that more than six out of 10 women who give birth in their early 20s are unmarried. That is census data, from census demographers, from the very government that then becomes responsible for many, if not most, of those unmarried women and children.
If that isn't an astonishing statistic, it should be. Why, to any logical person's way of thinking, it explains everything in terms of government at all levels bloating out of control.
Supposing that even angels might fear to tread here, it being liberal dogma that I shouldn't be telling women what to do, or men, either, for that matter, I would submit that marriage would solve virtually every economic issue facing this country.
The census demographers said that single motherhood, on the increase since the 1940s, has accelerated mindblowingly. The birth rate for unmarried women in 2007 was up 80 percent in the almost three decades since 1980. Just between 2002 and 2007, it was up 20 percent.
The census people didn't use the word mindblowingly. I have chosen it because these numbers are chilling and so telling of the true nature of the government's insatiable spending. Just think of entitlement spending the next time the hypocrites in Washington want to take a snowplow off the road in Yellowstone or take a few flight controllers out of a tower because of this so-called sequestration. Who do they think they are fooling?
Statistically, you can avoid poverty in America by getting a high-school degree and waiting to get married before having a child. It's really that simple.
The census report would state it differently. The U.S. Census Bureau report said that women with college degrees and higher household incomes are less likely to be single mothers than are women who have lower incomes and less education.
Now, I suppose this is where I should acknowledge that not all women who choose to give birth without a marriage are consigning themselves and their child to a life of poverty.
But when more than 600 out of every 1,000 children born to women in their early 20s have single mothers, can anybody come up with a percentage for how many of them will flourish?
Single mothers in their early 20s instantly become the have-nots, statistically, in income and education. For so many women to have so many children without a husband is a complete abdication of personal responsibility, which leads to a complete shunning of any civic responsibility. We are going broke. And if you think taxing higher-income earners more is the answer, you haven't done the math. The men who are party to these births are, of course, just as irresponsible, just as uncommitted to a civic responsibility to take care of their own.
So what has happened as a result of this mindblowingly destructive trend? Well, most principally, what has happened since the 1940s is a government that has expanded to require more and more money to feed, clothe, house, educate and medicate the children of mothers who cannot afford to do it themselves because their education has stalled, knocking them off the path of growing their incomes.
We hear a hue and cry for all-day kindergarten, which I suppose makes sense because the children have no place else to be if their single mom is fortunate enough to have a job. Whole bureaucracies have been created to cut general assistance checks and food payments and housing vouchers and health care provisions. All because there is no conventional family in place to take care of these obligations.
I am hopelessly conservative in these matters and not in tune with all the wonderful life choices encouraged by liberal dogma.
But the numbers don't lie. More than 60 percent! Not for an air traffic controller or a snowplow driver are we going broke.
Bushwhwacker

Kent, WA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#2
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

4

4

4

Tell Bristol....the liberal.
P C Free Zone

Minneapolis, MN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#3
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

4

3

3

Once again, Joe is right on. But, of course these well known facts are politically incorrect, and as long as the middle class is seen as the enemy and the underclass is seen as virtuous, the topic will receive little fanfare.
Bushwhwacker

Kent, WA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#5
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

4

4

3

Good support abortion....

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#6
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

3

2

2

Tried to have a similar conversation with my niece awhile back, when she already had one and was trying to get pregnant again. Pointed out how much better her life could have been if she had waited to have the first one. If she found it so hard to continue her education as a single mom of one, how much harder did she think it would be with two?

"MY BABY IS NOT A MISTAKE!!!!!!!" was her only response.

No, but putting conception ahead of the ability to provide for a child is a mistake. Now she's 30, has 3 kids from 3 dads, no education, and no chance of getting anything but a part-time minimum wage job.
Bushwhwacker

Kent, WA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#7
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

5

3

3

Poorly raised, white trash....

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#8
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

3

3

3

The Obama generation.

"For so many women to have so many children without a husband is a complete abdication of personal responsibility, which leads to a complete shunning of any civic responsibility. We are going broke. And if you think taxing higher-income earners more is the answer, you haven't done the math. The men who are party to these births are, of course, just as irresponsible, just as uncommitted to a civic responsibility to take care of their own."

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#9
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

2

2

2

"Let's celebrate diversity!" Ignorant fools.

I want to go throw up.

“HHhhhoooowwwlll”

Since: Feb 08

Craigville

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#11
May 7, 2013
 
Personal responsibility
It's almost considered profanity amidst the liberal warthogs who consider lifelong assistance a birth rite. Have Children when YOU can afford to have Children, support traditional marriage, it's not rocket science.
Bushwhacker

Kent, WA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#12
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

3

3

3

The wing nut teabagger reality-

A night sneaking out, a few whine coolers, no BC on board, and you have a VP baby grandma Palin.

SWEET BeJESUS a MIRACLE !!!????

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#13
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

4

2

2

The Truth wrote:
What if the government told Mary and Joseph that they sohuldn't have kids because they couldn't afford them?
I wonder if Jesus would agree with the Republikans?
What a complete asinine statement! You must take dumbshit pill every morning!
Bushwhacker

Kent, WA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#14
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

3

3

3

I didn't know they made such a pill... Must be a wing nut prescription, right ???

Hey coward, 1pm isn't night....
P C Free Zone

Minneapolis, MN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#15
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

2

The Truth wrote:
What if the government told Mary and Joseph that they sohuldn't have kids because they couldn't afford them?
I wonder if Jesus would agree with the Republikans?
So, you think this is just about the money? I guess 'morality' and 'responsibility' are too big of words for you to understand.
Were you raised without a father, by a single mother on welfare? If you were, you probably will never be a 'Republikan'.
Bushwhacker

Kent, WA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#16
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

4

4

4

You made it all about money yesterday on the abortion thread.... Oops !!!

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#17
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

2

1

1

The Truth wrote:
What if the government told Mary and Joseph that they sohuldn't have kids because they couldn't afford them?
I wonder if Jesus would agree with the Republikans?
Who said they couldn't afford kids? Joseph was a carpenter...there is no basis for the idea that he couldn't support a family. And they stayed in the stable because there was no room in the inn, not because they couldn't afford it.

But, you probably aren't looking for an actual discussion - just throwing out snarky comments to get a reaction. If so, have fun with that.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#18
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

2

2

2

The Truth wrote:
What if the government told Mary and Joseph that they sohuldn't have kids because they couldn't afford them?
I wonder if Jesus would agree with the Republikans?
Watch Maury Povich some time.
And yes, Jesus would agree that many of these women need to stop spreading their legs for every potential baby daddy that comes along and these potential baby daddy's need to learn to put a condom on.
Bushwhacker

Kent, WA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#19
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

4

4

2

The first aspect of Jesus’ lowly birth to which the text directs our attention is His earthly poverty. That Jesus was born in poverty is evident especially from the clothes in which He was wrapped.



It is true that His being born in a cattle stall and laid in a manger indicates poverty; but it does not primarily indicate poverty. Joseph and Mary found shelter here not because they could not afford an inn, but because there was no room for them in the inn.



But the clothes in which He was wrapped! They were swaddling clothes. The English word “swaddling” indicates that these were clothes in which a baby was wrapped. But the Greek word translated “swaddling” indicates that these clothes were pieces of old castoff clothing which were cut up into strips, and wrapped around a baby. This surely was not the kind of clothing that a baby of rich parents would be wrapped in; he would be dressed with decent clothing. But Jesus was wrapped in rags. He was born poor; Joseph and Mary were poor.



This poverty of Jesus which was evident in His birth was an indication that He would be poor His whole life. Jesus never was rich in material goods. God saw to it that His earthly needs were always supplied; He was given food and drink, clothing and shelter. But God supplied Him with these gifts from day to day, not in abundance. Jesus Himself told His disciples,“Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head”(Luke 9:58).

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#20
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

itser wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said they couldn't afford kids? Joseph was a carpenter...there is no basis for the idea that he couldn't support a family. And they stayed in the stable because there was no room in the inn, not because they couldn't afford it.
But, you probably aren't looking for an actual discussion - just throwing out snarky comments to get a reaction. If so, have fun with that.
The concept of morality, personal responsibility, and accountability for your decisions are not high on the list of Mr. Truth! He believes in developing emotional arguments. When you argue from an emotional position you can more easily divert or deflect the argument away from facts and into feelings. Logic and common sense are overridden by guilt ridden feelings and victimhood. The liberal Democrats have no time for logic or reasonableness, they have to find ways to maintain their power.
Bushwhacker

Kent, WA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#21
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

3

2

2

It is impossible to be a christian & a modern Republican.

“Low wage workers need all the money they can earn for basic necessities
of life. When they get an extra dollar in their pocket they spend it
right away for basic needs,” he said.“That dollar gets multiplied
through the economy. Business benefits because demand for the goods and
services they sell goes up significantly.”

Any business paying it's employees minimum wage is relying on
government social services to subsidize basic survival needs, e.g.,
food, health care, etc. that their minimum wage employees can't afford.
So all along its really been a welfare system for businesses that claim
they can't afford to pay their employees a living wage. A lot of this
is about business greed too. Big companies like Walmart de facto rely on
this welfare for their business model.

Another provision in the bill would permit people to take 12 weeks in
unpaid parental leave upon the birth or adoption of a child — double the
six week limit now in place.
Consistent

Grantsburg, WI

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#22
May 7, 2013
 

Judged:

2

2

2

P C Free Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you think this is just about the money? I guess 'morality' and 'responsibility' are too big of words for you to understand.
Were you raised without a father, by a single mother on welfare? If you were, you probably will never be a 'Republikan'.
Clearly she was raised the same in the same "It Takes A Village" as King Barry the Magnificent.

King Barry was raised by a Single Mom, Hooking for Extra Income, who was a Drug Addict, that brought Multiple Males into and out of Young King Barry's Life. The "State" was the Father that really raised Barry, along with his Communist Grandparents.

We will never know how the Jakarta Shroom Gang Leader paid for his 8 years of College

King Barry is "Amerika 101", as created by Victim Feminists that indoctrinate Amerikan Females in the Government Schools.

Our Beloved Leader is surrounded by Victim Class Females that have risen up in the Scum Pond that is Governance in Amerika Today.

These "Powerful Womyn" are just like Mommy, they control young Barry, and he consumes massive amounts of Barry Beer to escape the Cackle of their non stop Demands!

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

First Prev
of 7
Next Last
Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

29 Users are viewing the Minneapolis Forum right now

Search the Minneapolis Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
Global cooling 'undeniable,' scientists say 25 min Bellweather 60
Listen to an admitted, self proclaimed RACIST w... 30 min Bellweather 1
Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say (Jul '10) 33 min SpaceBlues 32,112
Where Does Ebola Come From? 47 min Bellweather 2
Tard 2 hr Tard Detector 1
Nice Ride loans out 140 bikes in low-income nei... 2 hr Bellweather 3
Hillary Clinton ranks last on U.S. 'most admire... (Jan '14) 2 hr Bellweather 8
•••
•••
•••
•••

Minneapolis Jobs

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••
•••

Minneapolis People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••

Minneapolis News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Minneapolis
•••

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]
•••