Joe Soucheray: No, I'm still a man, n...

Joe Soucheray: No, I'm still a man, not a woman. It's football that changed.

There are 69 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 18, 2011, titled Joe Soucheray: No, I'm still a man, not a woman. It's football that changed.. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Today's column was delayed one day by the Harmon Killebrew tribute. Quite a few people who read my column Sunday, or had it read to them, were convinced that the blood flow to my brain was constricted as a result of the ill-fitting thong I was wearing.

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Whatever

Las Vegas, NV

#1 May 18, 2011
You lost me at 'hello'.

Since: Sep 08

Saint Paul, MN

#2 May 19, 2011
I dont agree with you often Joe, but your 100% corrrect on this.
The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#3 May 19, 2011
Hanoi Jane? Hanoi Jane!?! What's wrong with Civil War Sam, or Revolutionary War Rebecca? Aren't some things getting a little tired for you Righties?

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Huge Jazz

Montréal, Canada

#4 May 19, 2011
Strangely enough, Joe, I don't disagree with you on the concept of essentially scripted games in the future. The fact is TV ratings are always higher and bring in more revenue for advertisers for matching up big market teams (with the exception of a certain team from northeast Wisconsin). And advertising, in it's many forms within a game broadcast, is where the real big money is, not the fans in the stands.

That's not to say I don't loathe the idea, as a lifelong NFL fan. I bleed purple like any Minnesotan.

But the fix has been in in so many other games and sports it would be naive to think it won't, or hasn't, happen in the NFL.

The NFL is becoming a "sports entertainment" league much like the WWE. Great athletes risking life and limb for a shot at the "title". I'm not typically a conspiracy type of guy but it was interesting to note, immediately after 9/11, that the "Patriots" went on to dynastic proportions.

The stadium should be built but with money from Zigi and the networks, who really do profit the most. Sure the state gets some revenue but the taxes pale in comparrison to the profits. I wouldn't mind compromising and have the state pay for infrastructure, access roads and such, but that's it.

As far as your undergarment wardrobe choices, Joe, I'll leave that up to you and the Mrs. Whatever floats your longboat.
Tony Rozycki

United States

#5 May 19, 2011
oxboro wrote:
I dont agree with you often Joe, but your 100% corrrect on this.
Agree with Joe & you Oxboro.(I agree with Joe about half the time, but think government is occasionally efficient e.g. the Moon landings & the recent Osama bin Laden "surgical" operation.
Observer

Winter Park, FL

#6 May 19, 2011
I like the part about having your column read to some of your critics. If you read the comments about most articles it's certainly not hard to visulize this happening in many cases.
WI_VIKES_FAN

Racine, WI

#7 May 19, 2011
I read this and the other major vikings online pages, all the writers from both sites are pretty good other than this guy, and that college kid from the other papers viking news website. The college kid is still learning and crafting his game so I'm not too critical of him, this guy on the other hand, I don't recall ever reading a piece from him that I enjoyed.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#8 May 19, 2011
Dearest Josephine,

You are correct. It will be built, and it will be built for TV and Zygi. Not for the fans.
glumps

Minneapolis, MN

#9 May 19, 2011
Joe - I'm not sure,since I don't listen to talk radio, but I seem to recall some billboards around town that advertised your radio show with the slogan of "garage logic." Garage logic... Is that some higher form of logic? Do you really believe that? Or is that simply a load of flattering baloney to make your listeners feel as though they possess some kind of superior knowledge, and that you are a kindred spirit.
conservative observations

Saint Paul, MN

#10 May 19, 2011
Joe made some good points in his initial column and in his rebuttal column today. I like the idea of the television networks building and paying for new stadiums rather than dumping the financial obligation for them on the public while giving all of the benefits to the owners like the two Ramsey County Board lightweights, Bennett and Ortega, appear to have done in giving away the store on a proposed agreement that has yet to be finalized, of course.

Since: Dec 10

Minneapolis, MN

#11 May 19, 2011
No Joe, you are a woman. Only woman complain day in and day out like you do.

Please go back to the kitchen and bake some more pie.

Oh yeah, I hope KSTP and the paper let you go LOSER.
Tony

Minnetonka, MN

#12 May 19, 2011
Good article Joe. I rarely agree with you but you are spot on here. Fixing games? I think it's already been happening.
cyberman

Saint Paul, MN

#13 May 19, 2011
I seldom agree with Joe Souchery, but in this case we are in complete agreement. Let the networks and the Vikings build their own new stadium.
R Johnson

Minneapolis, MN

#14 May 19, 2011
I don't have as much of a problem with people taking millions of dollars for a job that could kill them as I do with people taking millions of dollars for a job that couldn't.
Constitution

Hermosa Beach, CA

#15 May 19, 2011
OH YES ITS TRUE ITS TRUE wrote:
No Joe, you are a woman. Only woman complain day in and day out like you do.
Please go back to the kitchen and bake some more pie.
Oh yeah, I hope KSTP and the paper let you go LOSER.
Keep reading his column. That'll show him.

Since: Apr 08

Minneapolis

#16 May 19, 2011
Joe, you are not too far off. I remember reading a novel as a kid that came out in 1975; The title: "Killerbowl"

http://www.amazon.com/Killerbowl-Gary-K-Wolf/...

The synopsis:
It’s thirty years in the future. In the Boston Minutemen locker room, Street Football League quarterback T.K. Mann prepares himself for the biggest, riskiest, most dangerous game of his life. At the age of thirty-four, T.K. is the oldest player in the ultraviolent sport of Professional Street Football, a phenomenally popular twenty-four-hour-long athletic event combining pro football with mixed martial arts and armed combat.

From its outlaw beginnings as a gang game played on urban streets, the SFL has rapidly risen to become the nation’s most popular spectator sport. On every Sunday, armed and deadly players on SFL teams main and murder one another in front of huge television audiences. The International Broadcasting Company, the network that owns exclusive telecasting rights to SFL games, is not satisfied. The network wants more viewers, more team merchandise sales, more advertisers, more profits. To get that, they need to give the fans what they want,-- more violence and more death.

Even at his relatively advanced age, T.K. is still mentally sharp, still quick, still able to play the game at the highest level. But he’s old school, inclined to show mercy to injured and vanquished foes. He’s not bloodthirsty enough to please IBC. He’s not the modern-day stone cold killer IBC wants for a marquee SFL player.

Pierce Spencer, arrogant, autocratic, ruthless IBC President, dreams up an ingenious scheme. He manufactures a season-long personal rivalry between T.K. and Harv Matision, the San Francisco Prospectors’ young, tough, inner-city-bred quarterback. Matision is heartless, mean, and viciously murderous, IBC’s ideal star athlete.

IBC’s manipulations have all been designed to lead up to this final championship game, Mann against Matision, may the better man live. Pierce Spencer and his IBC cronies aren’t taking chances. They know the game’s outcome even before it begins. IBC plans to insure that this is T.K.’s final game.

In the locker room, T.K. and his teammates go through the intensely personal rituals of men preparing to face death. Some listen to jarring rock music. Some shoot themselves up with painkillers or speed. Some, like T.K., operating under the theory that you can never be too prepared, go over their playbooks one last time. The time comes to suit up. Each player dons his lightweight body armor. Player by player they pass by the team armourer who gives each player his standard equipment, a long knife, a club, a bolo, a javelin, and to one player, a rifle. The players head for the street.

The league’s championship game is being played this year In Boston, on a six block by eight block section of the downtown city. Everybody who lives there has been temporarily relocated. The two teams come out onto the eerily silent street. The Minutemen, with T.K. at the helm, and their opponents, the Harv Matision-led Prospectors, line up at the intersection of Myrtle and Garden. At the stroke of twelve midnight, the Minutemen kick off.

The season’s championship game begins; the game known by street football fans around the country simply and accurately as……Killerbowl!
Elvis

San Francisco, CA

#17 May 19, 2011
waaaa waaaa wittle joe doucheray is afraid of change. become amish loser so you never have to deal with change again.
Elvis

San Francisco, CA

#18 May 19, 2011
10K-Lakes wrote:
Joe, you are not too far off. I remember reading a novel as a kid that came out in 1975; The title: "Killerbowl"
http://www.amazon.com/Killerbowl-Gary-K-Wolf/...
The synopsis:
It’s thirty years in the future. In the Boston Minutemen locker room, Street Football League quarterback T.K. Mann prepares himself for the biggest, riskiest, most dangerous game of his life. At the age of thirty-four, T.K. is the oldest player in the ultraviolent sport of Professional Street Football, a phenomenally popular twenty-four-hour-long athletic event combining pro football with mixed martial arts and armed combat.
From its outlaw beginnings as a gang game played on urban streets, the SFL has rapidly risen to become the nation’s most popular spectator sport. On every Sunday, armed and deadly players on SFL teams main and murder one another in front of huge television audiences. The International Broadcasting Company, the network that owns exclusive telecasting rights to SFL games, is not satisfied. The network wants more viewers, more team merchandise sales, more advertisers, more profits. To get that, they need to give the fans what they want,-- more violence and more death.
Even at his relatively advanced age, T.K. is still mentally sharp, still quick, still able to play the game at the highest level. But he’s old school, inclined to show mercy to injured and vanquished foes. He’s not bloodthirsty enough to please IBC. He’s not the modern-day stone cold killer IBC wants for a marquee SFL player.
Pierce Spencer, arrogant, autocratic, ruthless IBC President, dreams up an ingenious scheme. He manufactures a season-long personal rivalry between T.K. and Harv Matision, the San Francisco Prospectors’ young, tough, inner-city-bred quarterback. Matision is heartless, mean, and viciously murderous, IBC’s ideal star athlete.
IBC’s manipulations have all been designed to lead up to this final championship game, Mann against Matision, may the better man live. Pierce Spencer and his IBC cronies aren’t taking chances. They know the game’s outcome even before it begins. IBC plans to insure that this is T.K.’s final game.
In the locker room, T.K. and his teammates go through the intensely personal rituals of men preparing to face death. Some listen to jarring rock music. Some shoot themselves up with painkillers or speed. Some, like T.K., operating under the theory that you can never be too prepared, go over their playbooks one last time. The time comes to suit up. Each player dons his lightweight body armor. Player by player they pass by the team armourer who gives each player his standard equipment, a long knife, a club, a bolo, a javelin, and to one player, a rifle. The players head for the street.
The league’s championship game is being played this year In Boston, on a six block by eight block section of the downtown city. Everybody who lives there has been temporarily relocated. The two teams come out onto the eerily silent street. The Minutemen, with T.K. at the helm, and their opponents, the Harv Matision-led Prospectors, line up at the intersection of Myrtle and Garden. At the stroke of twelve midnight, the Minutemen kick off.
The season’s championship game begins; the game known by street football fans around the country simply and accurately as……Killerbowl!
lets set the killerbowl up with sid hartman, joe doucheray and chaz walters as players.
Jose Canseco

Minneapolis, MN

#19 May 19, 2011
This only underscores our need to bring Major League Soccer to Minnesota. Wilf is making vague gestures toward the idea, so let's make him take it seriously.
http://www.mls4mn.com/
YoMammy

Minneapolis, MN

#20 May 19, 2011
I agree, the NFl has become nothing more then managed sports entertainment. College ball is sadly going this way too. I'll just have to stick to High School games.

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