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Smarter Liberal

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Nov 30, 2012
 
John Boehner declares a "stalemate" on the fiscal cliff:

Speaker John Boehner declared an impasse Friday negotiations with the White House over avoiding the fiscal cliff.
“There’s a stalemate,” Boehner said at a news conference.“Let’s not kid ourselves. I’m not trying to make this more difficult. If you’ve watched me over the last three weeks I’ve been very guarded in what I have to say, because I don’t want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to find common ground.”
Okay, so if there's a stalemate, let's take a look at the Boehner/Republican position and compare it with the Obama/Democratic position.
President Obama and Democrats are saying that the most urgent fiscal issue facing the country is the expiration of tax cuts on income under $250,000. They say we should extend those tax cuts now, but let Bush tax cuts on income over $250,000 expire at the end the year. They also say that we should continue to look for ways to reduce the deficit through long-term spending reductions, but that we can't ignore the need for short-term measures to boost the economy—things like unemployment benefits and something to replace the payroll tax cut.

John Boehner and Republicans, meanwhile, say they agree that tax cuts on income below $250,000 should continue. However, they also say that tax cuts on income above $250,000 should continue as well. Moreover, they want to see cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, although they refuse to be specific about what cuts they'd like to see. They also say they want to raise revenue through tax reform, but again refuse to offer details. And they oppose any short-term efforts to boost the economy.

An outsider might look at those positions and say that there really isn't much of a stalemate over taxes, because both sides have the same position on tax rates for 98 percent of the public. The problem is that at least so far, Boehner and Republicans are saying they will only support tax cuts on income below $250,000 in exchange for continuing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and for agreeing to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. As a result, we do have a stalemate over tax cuts, but it's not because Republicans say they disagree with Democrats—instead, it's because Republicans think they can hold those tax cuts hostage.

By taking the tax cuts hostage, Boehner is raising the political stakes in a big way. He's setting up a scenario where he can only win by forcing the White House to cave or by following through on his threat to hold the tax cuts hostage. But if House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi—who says Boehner's stalemate talk is irresponsible—is able to get about 30 House Republicans sign a discharge petition that would bring an extension of middle-class tax cuts up for a vote, Boehner is going to lose. And even if she falls short, next year she's only going need about 20 Republicans to join her, because Democrats gained seats in the House during this year's election. Meanwhile, President Obama will continue rallying public support for an extension of middle-class tax cuts—and he's not shying away from calling out Republican hostage-takers by name.

Maybe John Boehner believes he can turn hostage-taking into a winning political position. If so, it probably wouldn't be the craziest thing he believes. But it's still plenty crazy.

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

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The Obama way is to punish those that work hard, and are successful. He says to take their hard earning inco and give it to those that did not work for it.

If you want to be fair, raise the taxes on everyone and cut spending big time. In other words, drive that car right off the fiscal cliff.
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hard earning inco ???

Perhaps, you'll share a source for this quote ???

Geez, what a dumb &ss ~!
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Smart Liberal wrote:
The Obama way is to punish those that work hard, and are successful. He says to take their hard earning inco and give it to those that did not work for it.
If you want to be fair, raise the taxes on everyone and cut spending big time. In other words, drive that car right off the fiscal cliff.
Bush drove it into the ditch, obamamama pulled it out with a Chinese Tow Truck, and now he's ready to drive it off of the North Face of the GRAND CANYON, at 150 mph. Democrats, YOU OWN this future RESESSION, if not a DEPRESSION, LOCK, STOCK, and BARREL.

Boehner is doing the CORRECT THING, which is not to sign off on a "usa" suicide pact. That's his JOB. The stupid dem's have NO entitlement cuts in their so-called "proposal", so negotiating with these morons is FUTILE.
CRASSUS

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Dec 1, 2012
 
Did somebody say Boner? Oh well, I've got to head to the Jim now.
CRASSUS

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Dec 1, 2012
 
Just kidding. First I need to clean my Consistent. It's been weeks.
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Dec 1, 2012
 
CRASSUS wrote:
Did somebody say Boner? Oh well, I've got to head to the Jim now.
STOP you'er killing me with laughter hahahahaha lol
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Dec 1, 2012
 
NAILED IT ~! Dude, you'll be pissing on it/con/Jim for fun soon.... LMAOROTFU~!

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