Was Hitler Really a Fan of Gun Control?
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Jan 12, 2013
Drunken right wing extremists ARE so funny when they TRY to post.

ROFLMAO!!!!
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#33 Jan 12, 2013
Consistent wrote:
ROFLMAO!!!!
Fascism is a far RIGHT philosophy. Very near your positions, in fact.
In Fascism, the government takes over control of the industry to control the economy. Under Obama, the government took control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; currently 90%+ of all mortgages are guaranteed by FHA. Temporarily the government under Obama took control over GM, AIG, etc. It may not be fascism, but it has a lot in common with it. Fascists also used labor unions to gain control of a lot of industries in the past.

From Wikipedia on fascism:

Fascism recognizes the occurrence of class conflict, and advocates a resolution to end the division of classes within a nation and secure national solidarity.[8] However fascism publicly favours proletarian culture while it rejects bourgeois culture, due to its association of proletarian culture with economic production and claims that proletarians as producers must have a dominant role in the nation.[9] Fascism claims that cultural nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into a proletarian nation.[8]

Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[10] It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Jan 12, 2013
Slewsie, let me know if you need any help with the big words in the above posting from the Wikipedia entry. The Urban Dictionary is unlikely to have definitions for many of them, and I know you don't trust Webster's.
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Jan 12, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>In Fascism, the government takes over control of the industry to control the economy. Under Obama, the government took control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; currently 90%+ of all mortgages are guaranteed by FHA. Temporarily the government under Obama took control over GM, AIG, etc. It may not be fascism, but it has a lot in common with it. Fascists also used labor unions to gain control of a lot of industries in the past.
From Wikipedia on fascism:
Fascism recognizes the occurrence of class conflict, and advocates a resolution to end the division of classes within a nation and secure national solidarity.[8] However fascism publicly favours proletarian culture while it rejects bourgeois culture, due to its association of proletarian culture with economic production and claims that proletarians as producers must have a dominant role in the nation.[9] Fascism claims that cultural nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into a proletarian nation.[8]
Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[10] It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests.
Good lord, this is so full of lies that I don't even know where to start.

The US government never "took control" of GM or AIG
Hitler didn't disarm Germans.
FHA doesn't insure "90+%" of US home mortgages.
Fascists are at the opposite end of the political spectrum from labor unions and were bitter enemies.

You just spew lie after lie after lie.
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#36 Jan 12, 2013
Consistent wrote:
<quoted text>
Good lord, this is so full of lies that I don't even know where to start.
The US government never "took control" of GM or AIG
Hitler didn't disarm Germans.
FHA doesn't insure "90+%" of US home mortgages.
Fascists are at the opposite end of the political spectrum from labor unions and were bitter enemies.
You just spew lie after lie after lie.
You are too stupid to read, aren't you? Here are your hero's own words:

"Before everything else, the trades unions are necessary as building stones for the future economic parliament, which will be made up of chambers representing the various professions and occupations." - Adolph Hitler

Does that sound like Hitler was a bitter enemy of unions? NO!
Same with your other hero, Barry Obama.
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#37 Jan 12, 2013
Here's the truth - and attributed, unlike your garbage:

Trade Unions and Nazi Germany

When Hitler came to power in January 1933, he saw trade unions as exercising more power over the workers than he could. Therefore, trade unions were seen as a challenge to be dispensed with. Hitler knew that he needed the workers to be on his side but he could not allow trade unions to exert the potential power they had. Therefore, trade unions were banned in Nazi Germany and the state took over the role of looking after the working class.





Just months after Hitler was appointed Chancellor, he took the decision to end trade unions in Nazi Germany. On May 2nd, 1933, police units occupied all trade unions headquarters and union officials and leaders were arrested. The funds that belonged to the trade unions – effectively this was workers money – were confiscated. However, Hitler had to be careful. He had only been in power for a few months and there were many members of the working class he had to deal with. If the working class movement in Germany organised itself, it would have presented the new Chancellor with a lot of major issues that would have to be dealt with. Removing trade union leaders helped this but it did not fully guarantee that the working class would ‘behave’ itself. Hitler had to offer the workers something more. Hitler announced that the German Labour Force, headed by Robert Ley, would replace all trade unions and would look after the working class. The title was chosen carefully. The new organisation was deliberately cloaked in patriotism, as it was now a German entity as was seen in its title. The working class was now a ‘labour force’. The Nazi Party did all that it could to ensure the workers felt that they were better off under the guidance of the Nazi Party via the German Labour Front.



http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/trade_un...
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#38 Jan 13, 2013
Dumbo,

Here is a quote from Mein Kampf. Do you know who wrote Mein Kampf? Adolpf Hitler. "trades unions … are among the most important institutions in the economic life of the nation"

Google the words above in that quote. www.google.com

You are very talented with cutting and pasting. I am sure you can accomplish this task.

Then come back, if you dare, and tell me that Hitler was against trade unions. Hitler loved trade unions. He saw them as a way to control the people. Obama loves trade unions. Dispute those facts.

By the way, your source above ( http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/trade_un... ) is nothing more than a word document that is not credited to any authoritative author. In fact, it is not credited to anyone. I think I will stick with Hitler's own words rather than your phoney source.
Incontinent

Saint Paul, MN

#39 Jan 13, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Dumbo,
Here is a quote from Mein Kampf. Do you know who wrote Mein Kampf? Adolpf Hitler. "trades unions … are among the most important institutions in the economic life of the nation"
Google the words above in that quote. www.google.com
You are very talented with cutting and pasting. I am sure you can accomplish this task.
Then come back, if you dare, and tell me that Hitler was against trade unions. Hitler loved trade unions. He saw them as a way to control the people. Obama loves trade unions. Dispute those facts.
By the way, your source above ( http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/trade_un... ) is nothing more than a word document that is not credited to any authoritative author. In fact, it is not credited to anyone. I think I will stick with Hitler's own words rather than your phoney source.
You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. Hitler and dictators in general oppose unions as too much competition to their goals.

Read and learn grasshopper.

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/201...
Incontinent

Saint Paul, MN

#40 Jan 13, 2013
Here's another source since your google is broken.

"2 May 1933

Trade unions banned

Trade unions are abolished and their leaders arrested."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/his...
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#41 Jan 13, 2013
Incontinent wrote:
<quoted text>
You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. Hitler and dictators in general oppose unions as too much competition to their goals.
Read and learn grasshopper.
http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/201...
"You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts."

Are you for real? Hitler's own words. What part of Hitler's own words am I making up?
Insistent

Grantsburg, WI

#42 Jan 13, 2013
Incontinent wrote:
<quoted text>
You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. Hitler and dictators in general oppose unions as too much competition to their goals.
Read and learn grasshopper.
http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/201...
Child,

These deflections that you Sheeple put out in your childish attempts to avoid the truth do not hide the truth.

The tactics utilized by Collectivists/Totalitarians are fairly standard. Your attempts to pick the Fly Shaat out of the Pepper to deflect from the tactics used by your Messiah's Handlers make you a part of the problem.

You do not know history, you run from Common Sense, you do not know why you have the right to be as ignorant as you are, and you do not know WHO it is/was that gave you your rights.

What motivates you Sheeple is suspect.

Left and Right are constructs assigned by historians that need a way to define based on their own biases, If you had any Common Sense you could realize that the "tactics" are what matter when considering where a Society is and where they are going.

You Sheeple have empowered a Dictator that circumvents Constitutional Principles and Limited Government, via what is supposed to be his limited power to use the Executive Order on a rare/emergency basis.

This is the definition of a Monarchy, Dictatorship, Kingdom, pick your historical reference.

The Son of Communists is a little boy in the employ of America's Enemies!

Left or Right do not matter!
Incontinent

Saint Paul, MN

#43 Jan 13, 2013
Insistent wrote:
<quoted text>
Child,
These deflections that you Sheeple put out in your childish attempts to avoid the truth do not hide the truth.
The tactics utilized by Collectivists/Totalitarians are fairly standard. Your attempts to pick the Fly Shaat out of the Pepper to deflect from the tactics used by your Messiah's Handlers make you a part of the problem.
You do not know history, you run from Common Sense, you do not know why you have the right to be as ignorant as you are, and you do not know WHO it is/was that gave you your rights.
What motivates you Sheeple is suspect.
Left and Right are constructs assigned by historians that need a way to define based on their own biases, If you had any Common Sense you could realize that the "tactics" are what matter when considering where a Society is and where they are going.
You Sheeple have empowered a Dictator that circumvents Constitutional Principles and Limited Government, via what is supposed to be his limited power to use the Executive Order on a rare/emergency basis.
This is the definition of a Monarchy, Dictatorship, Kingdom, pick your historical reference.
The Son of Communists is a little boy in the employ of America's Enemies!
Left or Right do not matter!
Your long winded goobeldy goop response doesn't change the historical fact that on May 3, 1933 Hitler banned labor unions in Germany.
Insistent

Grantsburg, WI

#44 Jan 13, 2013
Incontinent wrote:
<quoted text>
Your long winded goobeldy goop response doesn't change the historical fact that on May 3, 1933 Hitler banned labor unions in Germany.
Thank you for your short winded reply.

We are shocked that your reply is the same as it always is;

BABAHAYAHAYAHAHAHAH!!

(Did I mention that you Sheeple are the Problem?)
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#45 Jan 13, 2013
Incontinent wrote:
<quoted text>
Your long winded goobeldy goop response doesn't change the historical fact that on May 3, 1933 Hitler banned labor unions in Germany.
Go read something other than the Democrat propagande that is dropped into your e-mail box by your union.

Hitler destroyed private unions and turned them into government unions that he used to control the population. Go back and read the quotes from Mein Kampf. Hitler was a huge fan of unions.
Insistent

Grantsburg, WI

#46 Jan 13, 2013
Incontinent wrote:
<quoted text>
Your long winded goobeldy goop response doesn't change the historical fact that on May 3, 1933 Hitler banned labor unions in Germany.
By the way Sheeple, You needed to ignore the relevant points that I made "Related to the Thread!", and I understand the Emotional Limitations that you feel as a Sheeple.

The Thread is not about Hitlers relationship to the Unions, and whether or not he wanted them to be a part of the UNION HE CREATED!

The Thread is about what Hitler did as a Dictator in confiscating the People right to defend themselves.

The Tactics that the Son of Communists who Occupies the White House uses are rightfully comparable to Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin.

I await your BAYAYAHAYAHAHAH in reply.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#47 Jan 13, 2013
Consistent wrote:
<quoted text>
Good lord, this is so full of lies that I don't even know where to start.
The US government never "took control" of GM or AIG
Hitler didn't disarm Germans.
FHA doesn't insure "90+%" of US home mortgages.
Fascists are at the opposite end of the political spectrum from labor unions and were bitter enemies.
You just spew lie after lie after lie.
Which part of the Wikipedia article did you not understand mr low integrity poster. I can't really type slower for you, but I did volunteer to find definitions for the big words like "proletariat" that won't be in your preferred source, the urban dictionary.

From Wikipedia on fascism:

Fascism recognizes the occurrence of class conflict, and advocates a resolution to end the division of classes within a nation and secure national solidarity.[8] However fascism publicly favours proletarian culture while it rejects bourgeois culture, due to its association of proletarian culture with economic production and claims that proletarians as producers must have a dominant role in the nation.[9] Fascism claims that cultural nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into a proletarian nation.[8]

Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[10] It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests.

By the way, the government did set the terms of surrender for GM and AIG. In GM's case, the bankruptcy did not pay out bondholders and gave more control of the company to the UAW, the way the government negotiated it.
Insistent

Grantsburg, WI

#50 Jan 13, 2013
Hitler was a Collectivist.......Short and to the point.

You Sheeple and your Messiah are Collectivists.....This is not debatable.

You "Folk", and the Son of Communists that Occupy our White House, are Kindred Spirits of The Fuehrer'!

If you do not want to face this awful truth about yourselves, get educated and change.
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#52 Jan 13, 2013
Sorry - every major school in the world recognizes Hiteler and facism as being a far RIGHT philosophy - very near yours, in fact.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

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non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#54 Jan 13, 2013
Consistent wrote:
Sorry - every major school in the world recognizes Hiteler and facism as being a far RIGHT philosophy - very near yours, in fact.
Which part of the Wikipedia article did you not understand mr low integrity poster. I can't really type slower for you, but I did volunteer to find definitions for the big words like "proletariat" that won't be in your preferred source, the urban dictionary.

From Wikipedia on fascism:

Fascism recognizes the occurrence of class conflict, and advocates a resolution to end the division of classes within a nation and secure national solidarity.[8] However fascism publicly favours proletarian culture while it rejects bourgeois culture, due to its association of proletarian culture with economic production and claims that proletarians as producers must have a dominant role in the nation.[9] Fascism claims that cultural nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into a proletarian nation.[8]

Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[10] It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests.

By the way, the government did set the terms of surrender for GM and AIG. In GM's case, the bankruptcy did not pay out bondholders and gave more control of the company to the UAW, the way the government negotiated it.

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