Young men giving up on marriage Women aren’t women anymore

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DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#1 Jan 12, 2013
January 10, 2013 ( LifeSiteNews.com )– Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time.

Pew’s findings have caught the attention of one US writer who maintains that feminism, deeply entrenched in every segment of the culture, has created an environment in which young men find it more beneficial to simply opt out of couple-dom entirely.

Suzanne Venker’s article,“The War on Men,” which appeared on the website of Fox News in late November, has become a lodestone for feminist writers who have attacked her position that the institution of marriage is threatened, not enhanced, by the supposed gains of the feminist movement over the last 50 years.

“Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?” is a question much talked about lately in the secular media, Venker says, but her answer, backed up by statistics, is not to the liking of mainstream commentators influenced by feminism.

She points out that for the first time in US history, the number of women in the workforce has surpassed the number of men, while more women than men are acquiring university degrees.

“The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women,” Venker wrote. With feminism pushing them out of their traditional role of breadwinner, protector and provider – and divorce laws increasingly creating a dangerously precarious financial prospect for the men cut loose from marriage – men are simply no longer finding any benefit in it.

As a writer and researcher into the trends of marriage and relationships, Venker said, she has “accidentally stumbled upon a subculture” of men who say “in no uncertain terms, that they’re never getting married.”

“When I ask them why, the answer is always the same: women aren’t women anymore.” Feminism, which teaches women to think of men as the enemy, has made women “angry” and “defensive, though often unknowingly.”

“Now the men have nowhere to go. It is precisely this dynamic – women good/men bad – that has destroyed the relationship between the sexes. Yet somehow, men are still to blame when love goes awry.”

“Men are tired,” Venker wrote.“Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.”
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#2 Jan 12, 2013
Feminism and the sexual revolution have simply made marriage “obsolete” for women as a social and economic refuge, but this is a situation that should not be celebrated by feminists, Venker says.

“It’s the women who lose. Not only are they saddled with the consequences of sex, by dismissing male nature they’re forever seeking a balanced life. The fact is, women need men’s linear career goals – they need men to pick up the slack at the office – in order to live the balanced life they seek.”

A cross section of research data from the Pew Research Center for the last months of 2012 shows the alarming trends for marriage and child-bearing in the US. One report published in mid-December said that the latest census data showed “barely half” of all adults in the United States are currently married, a “record low”. Since 1960, the number of married adults has decreased from 72 percent to 51 today and the number of new marriages in the U.S. declined by five percent between 2009 and 2010.

Moreover, the median age at first marriage continues to rise with women getting married the first time at 26.5 years and men at 28.7. The declines in marriage are “most dramatic” among young adults. Just 20 percent of those aged 18 to 29 are married, compared with 59 percent in 1960.

“If current trends continue, the share of adults who are currently married will drop to below half within a few years,” the report said.

Moreover, the link between marriage and childrearing has become disconnected in the minds of the so-called Millennial generation, those between 18 and 29. While 52 percent of Millennials say being a good parent is “one of the most important things” in life, just 30 per cent say the same about having a successful marriage, an attitudinal survey found.

The gap, of 22 percentage points, between the value Millennials place on parenthood over marriage, was just 7 points in 1997. The research found that Millennials, many of whom are the children of divorce and single-parenthood themselves, are also less likely than their elders to say that a child needs both a father and mother at home, that single parenthood and unmarried couple parenthood are bad for society.

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Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Jan 12, 2013
Good lord, DSM Local, you find the most ridiculous things to post!
Miss Piggy

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jan 12, 2013
Consistent wrote:
Good lord, DSM Local, you find the most ridiculous things to post!
Says the troll who posted garbage calling Rick Scott supporters "Satanists".
You're just jealous because you couldn't even find a gal at the asylum. Poor lonely loser!

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Jan 12, 2013
good part of it is how our society views women. we are thank goodness moving away from thinking women as not only as second class citizens. but also we are no longer thinking of women as property.
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this is due to true feminism. where we hold both genders to be not only equal. but also have the right to have a equal chance at pay, housing, etc.... a true feminist holds the view that neither gender is superior to the other.
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those who blame feminism. please place the blame on the true villains. I'm talking about the feminazis. the ones who are the female version of the chauvinists.
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I grew up in the time when a woman could NOT buy a car, house without a male cosigner. same thing about credit cards & bank accounts. a gal had to have a male cosigner for those too.
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in many ways, this goes back to WW2 when we got a taste of what guys got for freedoms when we started to take their place in the workforce.
redeemer

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Jan 12, 2013
Disgusting Slew wrote:
Is this what women are turning into?
http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/j...
Come on crassus now tell the truth,so this is how you fill your seaman jelly jar using internet porn. you are one bastard!
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#10 Jan 12, 2013
You seem obsesses with gay comments, it is time to open your closet, turd ???
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#11 Jan 13, 2013
She needs to cook... just saying
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Jan 13, 2013
DSM Local wrote:
She needs to cook... just saying
Right. Women should be property and should not have rights.

And you wonder why the Republicans keep losing.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Jan 13, 2013
DSM Local wrote:
She needs to cook... just saying
both genders need to know how to keep a house. roles should be genderless.
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#15 Jan 14, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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both genders need to know how to keep a house. roles should be genderless.
why? As a man I am inable to cook as well as a female... We should all play to our strengths. Do you support an increase in house fires?

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Jan 14, 2013
DSM Local wrote:
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why? As a man I am inable to cook as well as a female... We should all play to our strengths. Do you support an increase in house fires?
many men are able to cook food. if you go out to eat at a restaurant. it was most likely done by males.
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and don't assume that all women can cook. I know that some women are unable to cook. some either did not learn. or they refused to learn. my husband's ex was one of those who refused to learn.
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to refuse to learn is a a excuse to be lazy. to refuse to learn how to do something. and that is what you are trying to do. refusing to learn something new.
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remember that anything that is considered to be "women's work" at the home by some folks. is something that is still a marketable skill in the job fields being done by MALES.
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#17 Jan 14, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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many men are able to cook food. if you go out to eat at a restaurant. it was most likely done by males.
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and don't assume that all women can cook. I know that some women are unable to cook. some either did not learn. or they refused to learn. my husband's ex was one of those who refused to learn.
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to refuse to learn is a a excuse to be lazy. to refuse to learn how to do something. and that is what you are trying to do. refusing to learn something new.
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remember that anything that is considered to be "women's work" at the home by some folks. is something that is still a marketable skill in the job fields being done by MALES.
Females are just better at it and more efficient. I don't care if some outlier cooks at some restaurant and fast food is not cooking.
Learn to cook or we will all starve or become fat and obese from tv dinners
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#18 Jan 14, 2013
moms who cant cook set a bad example for their kids and have contributed to the fast food craze and morbidity issues america faces today

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Jan 14, 2013
DSM Local wrote:
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Females are just better at it and more efficient. I don't care if some outlier cooks at some restaurant and fast food is not cooking.
Learn to cook or we will all starve or become fat and obese from tv dinners
bub, I came from a home where both my parents did the cooking.
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I am now married to a man who not only can cook meals. but knows how to do other things around the house. our daughter is learning to look for a guy who also is willing to share house work too.
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and stop assuming that I can not cook. I AM the main cook here. in fact yesterday I made homemade soup. I also do a great meatloaf. as well as other requested meals I can make. I've been doing home cooked meals since I moved out of my parents house decades ago.
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and as for the restaurants I was referring to. they are the sitdown types. like steak places, Perkins, etc....
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#21 Jan 14, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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bub, I came from a home where both my parents did the cooking.
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I am now married to a man who not only can cook meals. but knows how to do other things around the house. our daughter is learning to look for a guy who also is willing to share house work too.
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and stop assuming that I can not cook. I AM the main cook here. in fact yesterday I made homemade soup. I also do a great meatloaf. as well as other requested meals I can make. I've been doing home cooked meals since I moved out of my parents house decades ago.
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and as for the restaurants I was referring to. they are the sitdown types. like steak places, Perkins, etc....
moms who cant cook set a bad example for their kids and have contributed to the fast food craze and morbidity issues america faces today

BTW where did I say you cannot cook?

You think Perkins is a good place to eat? One should never eat outside, ever. Eat healthy and go to the gym every day (for at least an hour a day).
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#22 Jan 14, 2013
Men may learn how to cook but the point is females are just so much better at it, they usually don't burn down the building they reside in for one. Females are better able to distinguish color because they were able to better pick out berries in the past, they own the kitchen for a reason.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#23 Jan 14, 2013
You "might" go to a Jim, but the ONLY workout you get is your spewing here....

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Jan 14, 2013
DSM Local wrote:
moms who cant cook set a bad example for their kids and have contributed to the fast food craze and morbidity issues america faces today
don't just blame the moms. both genders need to learn how to cook
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many households are men who are raising the kids alone. due to one or more reason. like the mom has passed on into death.
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some other households have the woman working full time and the dad is a stay at home parent. since she is better at being the main breadwinner. and the guy is better at housekeeping as well as child keeping.
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some household the woman is incapable of doing most to all of the housework including cooking due to a disability.
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reason both genders need to learn. is that at some point of their life. the offspring will move out of the parent(s) home. and the offspring will need to fend for themself.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Jan 14, 2013
DSM Local wrote:
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moms who cant cook set a bad example for their kids and have contributed to the fast food craze and morbidity issues america faces today
BTW where did I say you cannot cook?
You think Perkins is a good place to eat? One should never eat outside, ever. Eat healthy and go to the gym every day (for at least an hour a day).
I haven't been to a Perkins in years.
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as for the gym. why should I? I tend to do housework the way it was done in the 50s. no need for a gym when you burn off calories that way.

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