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Judge considers St. Paul's anti-gang injunction bid

There are 39 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Apr 24, 2009, titled Judge considers St. Paul's anti-gang injunction bid. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A judge is weighing St. Paul's request to restrict the actions of 10 alleged Sureno 13 gang leaders if they go to next weekend's Cinco de Mayo festival.

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Mad Viking

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Apr 24, 2009
Roughrider50 wrote:
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Because we live in the great euphorian state of Minnesota. Here the criminal has more rights than the decent citizen, not to mention an immigration system run amok. But it's not only Minnesota, California just sent us one of their dirtbags after only seven years in prison for attempted murder.
No, because we live in a society of law where arrest is based upon probable cause and guilt or innocence is based upon a finding of guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. You have to have a reason other than suspicion to arrest and you need evidence that the accused committed the charged crime to convict. If you don't like the system, move to Tehran and join Roxana Saberi.

As to Kathleen Soliah, ship the "person" back to California. I'm a neighbor and I dread when I end up seeing her.
handy dandy

Minneapolis, MN

#22 Apr 24, 2009
Good. But, there are ten more for every one banned gang member. It doens't stop. These people have a sense of entitlement, and no respect.
Hermann

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Apr 24, 2009
Hells Norski wrote:
What I wonder is what happened that candidates of the caliber Joe Dillon, Tom Byrne, Larry Cohen, George Vavolis, George Latimer, Harold Shipara, etc. are no longer running for Mayor and we end up with cheap politicians.
Wow! Harold B. Shipira! He lost to Charlie "SuperMayor" McCarthy in 1970 - what a miscarriage that election was. He was a remarkable man and a true gentleman who should have won that election.
Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#24 Apr 24, 2009
Initial Charge VOCSL- FELONY POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE [F-NARCOTICS][35]
Statute Referenced 152.02
Charge Level Felony
Amended Charge
Court Charge
First Name SALATIEL
Middle Name NICHOLAS
Last Name HERNANDEZ
Birthdate 1/20/1990
Place of Birth MEXICO
Address No. 690
Address Suffix
Address Street OSBOURNE RD
Address Line 2 APT 309
City FRIDLEY
State MN
ZIP 55432
City of Violation ST. PAUL
Date arrested 11/3/2008
Arresting Agency ST PAUL PD
Arrested Address No.
Arrest Address Suffix
Arrest Address Street EARL / YORK AVE E
Arrest Address Line 2
Arrest City ST. PAUL
Arrest County RAM
Arrest State MN
Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#25 Apr 24, 2009
Arrival Date 5/25/2008 5:45:00 AM
Initial Charge POSS BURGLARY TOOLS-FELONY [F- POSS BURG TOOL][22]
Statute Referenced 609.59
Charge Level Felony
Amended Charge
Court Charge
First Name JESUS
Middle Name
Last Name JACOBO
Birthdate 10/21/1989
Place of Birth LOS ANGELES
Address No. 1659
Address Suffix E
Address Street 7TH ST
Address Line 2
City ST. PAUL
State MN
ZIP 55119
City of Violation ST. PAUL
Date arrested 5/25/2008
Arresting Agency ST PAUL PD
Arrested Address No.
Arrest Address Suffix
Arrest Address Street LAWSON / MEDOTA
Arrest Address Line 2
Arrest City ST. PAUL
Arrest County RAM
Arrest State MN
Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#26 Apr 24, 2009
Arrival Date 2/9/2008 12:17:00 AM
Initial Charge AUTO THEFT - FELONY [F- THEFT][23]
Statute Referenced 609.52
Charge Level Felony
Amended Charge
Court Charge
First Name JESUS
Middle Name
Last Name JACOBO
Birthdate 10/21/1989
Place of Birth LOS ANGELES
Address No. 1659
Address Suffix E
Address Street 7TH ST
Address Line 2
City ST. PAUL
State MN
ZIP 55119
City of Violation ST. PAUL
Date arrested 2/8/2008
Arresting Agency ST PAUL PD
Arrested Address No.
Arrest Address Suffix
Arrest Address Street ST ANTHONY / LEXINGTON
Arrest Address Line 2
Arrest City ST. PAUL
Arrest County RAM
Arrest State MN
Arrest ZIP
Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Apr 24, 2009
Arrival Date 1/24/2008 4:46:00 PM
Initial Charge CRIM DAM PROP4
Statute Referenced 609.595.3
Charge Level Gross misdemeanor
Amended Charge CRIM DAM PROP4
Court Charge CRIM DAM PROP4
First Name JUAN
Middle Name
Last Name QUINTERO
Birthdate 6/11/1989
Place of Birth MISSION
Address No. 1430
Address Suffix
Address Street YORK
Address Line 2 APT 126
City ST. PAUL
State MN
ZIP 55106
City of Violation ST. PAUL
Date arrested 1/24/2008
Arresting Agency ST PAUL PD
Arrested Address No. 425
Arrest Address Suffix
Arrest Address Street GROVE ST
Arrest Address Line 2
Arrest City ST. PAUL
Arrest County RAM
Arrest State MN
Arrest ZIP 55101
Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#28 Apr 24, 2009
Arrival Date 8/1/2007 11:10:00 AM
Initial Charge
Statute Referenced
Charge Level
Amended Charge CRIM DAM PROP4
Court Charge
First Name JUAN
Middle Name
Last Name QUINTERO
Birthdate 6/11/1989
Place of Birth MISSION
Address No. 1430
Address Suffix
Address Street YORK
Address Line 2 APT 126
City ST. PAUL
State MN
ZIP 55106
City of Violation ST. PAUL
Date arrested 8/1/2007
Arresting Agency ST PAUL PD
Arrested Address No.
Arrest Address Suffix
Arrest Address Street 1430 YORK #126
Arrest Address Line 2
Arrest City ST. PAUL
Arrest County RAM
Arrest State
Arrest ZIP
Pablo

Saint Paul, MN

#29 Apr 24, 2009
Mr Secant wrote:
<quoted text>
People like you should move to a country where everyone looks and acts like you but you'll likely need to wait until you die and move into your new residence, hell.
Spoken like a true Mexican. We feel your pain. Or not.
well one can dream

Saint Paul, MN

#30 Apr 24, 2009
Hells Norski wrote:
I'm sure that the Sureño 13 are very impressed with Judge Johnson's order and will do their utmost to closely follow his injunction. Right! Chris, are you really that stupid as to think these punks will follow the law?. Again John Harrington is going to be left to pull your fat out of the fire just like the RNC. It's time for a change. Coleman and Thune have to go for the good of the City. Sadly Chris Coleman makes Randy Kelly and Charlie McCarthy look good. What I wonder is what happened that candidates of the caliber Joe Dillon, Tom Byrne, Larry Cohen, George Vavolis, George Latimer, Harold Shipara, etc. are no longer running for Mayor and we end up with cheap politicians.
This may give them the right in court to "take care of" these idiots if they don't comply. If that's the case, I'll pick them up in my old Gran Torino with spinners and hydraulics and give them a lift to the "Festival".
JohnJ

Champlin, MN

#31 Apr 24, 2009
Lets coddle the criminals....Minnesota is a poster child for that activity!
Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#32 Apr 24, 2009
HERNANDEZ-PATINO, SALATIEL NICOLAS

1. Damage to Prop-1st Deg-Value Reduced Over $1000 609.595.1(3) Felony 09/27/2007
Events & Orders of the Court
DISPOSITIONS
10/18/2007 Disposition (Judicial Officer: Hayes,Thomas D.,)

1. Damage to Prop-1st Deg-Value Reduced Over $1000
Adjudicated delinquent
10/18/2007 Juvenile Disposition Imposed (Judicial Officer: Hayes,Thomas D.,)

1. Damage to Prop-1st Deg-Value Reduced Over $1000
Probation - Juvenile:
Type: Supervised probation
Agency: Anoka County Corrections
Indeterminate
10/18/2007 - 10/17/2008
Status: Active 10/18/2007

Juvenile Facility:
Secure-Correctional
Comment: ACJC/SECURE 0/90 W/O RETURN TO COURT DURATION OF PROBATION
Status: Active 10/18/2007

Condition - Juvenile:
1. Conditions, other, 10/18/2007, Active 10/18/2007
2. Supply DNA sample, 10/18/2007, Active 10/18/2007
3. Write letter of apology, 10/18/2007, Active 10/18/2007
4. Pay restitution, 10/18/2007 - 08/18/2008, Active 10/18/2007
Comment: RESTITUTION AMOUNT TO BE DETERMINED; NO CONTACT W/ANYONE IDENTIFIED AS A GANG MEMBER BY THE MN GANG TASK FORCE; NOT TO BE IN RAMSEY COUNTY W/O WRITTEN SPECIFIC PERMISSION OF PO

Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#33 Apr 24, 2009
JACOBO, JESUS Statute
1. Aiding an Offender - Accomplice After the Fact (Not applicable - GOC) 609.495.3 Felony 07/12/2008
Events & Orders of the Court
DISPOSITIONS
01/13/2009 Plea

1. Aiding an Offender - Accomplice After the Fact (Not applicable - GOC)
Guilty
01/13/2009 Disposition

1. Aiding an Offender - Accomplice After the Fact (Not applicable - GOC)
Convicted
02/17/2009 Sentenced 1. Aiding an Offender - Accomplice After the Fact (Not applicable - GOC)
Commit to Commissioner of Corrections - Adult:
MN Correctional Facility - St. Cloud 44 Mo
Stay for 5 Yr
Status: Active 02/17/2009
Condition - Adult:
1. Chemical dependency evaluation/treatment, 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
2. Follow recommendations of evaluation, 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
3. No alcohol/controlled substance use, 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
4. Random testing, 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
5. Follow all instructions of probation, 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
6. Remain law-abiding, 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
7. No contact with victim(s), J.P.R. 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
8. No use or possession of firearms or dangerous weapons, 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
9. Supply DNA sample, 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
10. No Contact with Co-Defendant(s), Mr. Moreno 02/17/2009, Active 02/17/2009
Fees - Adult:(Grand Total:$633.00)
Due 02/17/2009
Fine:$200.00
Fees:(Fees Total:$433.00)
Additional Court Costs:$328.00
Criminal Surcharge:$72.00
Law Library:$5.00
Public Defender Fee:$28.00
Comment:$328 Probation Fee
Local Confinement:
Agency: Dakota County Jail
Term: 240 Days
Time To Serve: 240 Days
Stay 0 Yr 0 Mo 0 Days
Credit For Time Served: 240 Days
Status: Active 02/17/2009
Probation - Adult:
Type: Supervised probation
Agency: Dakota County Community Corrections
Term of 5 Yr
02/17/2009 - 02/17/2014
Status: Active 02/17/2009
OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
07/16/2008 Hearing (11:00 AM) Result: Held
07/16/2008 Affidavit-Other
07/16/2008 Motion
07/16/2008 Order Granting Public Defender
07/16/2008 Order for Release
07/16/2008 Interim Condition for JACOBO, JESUS
- Conditions, other
07/17/2008 Complaint-Order for Detention
07/17/2008 Demand/Request for Discovery
07/17/2008 CANCELED First Appearance (11:00 AM)
Other
07/18/2008 Reset by Court to 07/17/2008
07/17/2008 First Appearance (11:00 AM) Result: Held
07/17/2008 Order for Release
07/17/2008 Interim Condition for JACOBO, JESUS
- Conditions, other
07/17/2008 Interim Condition for JACOBO, JESUS
- Do not enter victim's residence
- Post bond
- Conditions, other
- No alcohol/controlled substance use
- No contact with victim(s)
- Random testing
- No use or possession of firearms or dangerous weapons
07/21/2008 Demand/Request for Discovery
07/30/2008 Other Document
08/11/2008 Omnibus Hearing (1:30 PM) 08/11/2008 Reset by Court to 08/11/2008
Result: Held
08/11/2008 Order-Other
08/11/2008 Order-Presentence Investigation
09/05/2008 Motion
10/14/2008 Presentence Investigation Report
11/12/2008 Contested Omnibus (9:00 AM) 11/12/2008 Reset by Court to 11/12/2008
Result: Held
11/12/2008 Taken Under Advisement
11/12/2008 Order for Submissions-Under Advisement
12/01/2008 Memorandum
12/08/2008 Memorandum
12/08/2008 Affidavit-Other
01/07/2009 Order-Other
01/07/2009 Notice of Filing of Order
01/13/2009 Plea Hearing (8:30 AM) 01/13/2009 Reset by Court to 01/13/2009
Result: Held
01/13/2009 Criminal History Disposition has been processed
01/13/2009 Petition to Enter Guilty Plea
01/13/2009 Order-Other
02/17/2009 Sentencing (9:00 AM) 02/17/2009 Reset by Court to 02/17/2009
Result: Held
02/17/2009 Sentencing Order
02/17/2009 Criminal History Disposition has been processed
02/17/2009 Criminal History Disposition has been processed
03/17/2009 Sentencing Worksheet
Gomez

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Apr 24, 2009
JACOBO, JESUS Statute Level Date
1. Theft-Take/Use/Transfer Movable Prop-No Consent 609.52.2(1) Misdemeanor 05/25/2008
2. Tamper With Motor Vehicle/Enter w/o Owner Permission 609.546.(2) Misdemeanor 05/25/2008
Events & Orders of the Court
DISPOSITIONS
01/14/2009 Plea
1. Theft-Take/Use/Transfer Movable Prop-No Consent
Not guilty
2. Tamper With Motor Vehicle/Enter w/o Owner Permission
Not guilty
02/10/2009 Amended Plea Reason: Plea agreement

1. Theft-Take/Use/Transfer Movable Prop-No Consent
Guilty
02/10/2009 Disposition
1. Theft-Take/Use/Transfer Movable Prop-No Consent
Convicted
2. Tamper With Motor Vehicle/Enter w/o Owner Permission
Dismissed
02/10/2009 Sentenced

1. Theft-Take/Use/Transfer Movable Prop-No Consent
Local Confinement:
Agency: Ramsey County Correctional Facility
Term: 90 Days
Time To Serve: 90 Days
Stay 0 Yr 0 Mo 0 Days
Credit For Time Served: 90 Days
Status: Active 02/10/2009

Fees - Adult:(Grand Total:$78.00)
Due 02/10/2009
Fine:$0.00
Fees:(Fees Total:$78.00)
Criminal Surcharge:$73.00
Law Library:$5.00



OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
10/07/2008 Citation E-Filed
10/08/2008 Notice and Order to Appear
11/19/2008 Hearing (1:00 PM) Result: Held
11/19/2008 Warrant Issued
11/19/2008 Fail to Appear at a hearing
11/26/2008 Correspondence
01/13/2009 Warrant Cleared by Arrest
01/14/2009 Arraignment (8:30 AM) Result: Held
01/14/2009 Interim Condition for JACOBO, JESUS
- Pay bail
$1,000.00

01/14/2009 Order Granting Public Defender
01/14/2009 Bail Study
01/14/2009 Notice and Order to Appear
01/14/2009 Interim Condition for JACOBO, JESUS
- Released on own recognizance

01/14/2009 Released Own Recognizance
02/10/2009 Sentencing (9:00 AM) Result: Held
02/10/2009 Interim Condition for JACOBO, JESUS
- Released on own recognizance

02/10/2009 Criminal Judgment and Warrant of Commitment
02/10/2009 Notice-Pay or Appear
VNDoc3

Saint Paul, MN

#35 Apr 25, 2009
woolybear wrote:
Could someone find these wannabe gang members records and post them. So the libbies will keep quiet on this thread.
The biggest problem with posting any records is the rotten legal system that is in place in this country at this time. Do you know how long and the legal battle it takes to get a person's record transfered from one state to another? Another factor is this sealing a persons record if they are under 16. Also, if it was not for the "libbies" you were talking about this country would be in a worse case than it is now or are you to young to remember Nixon as well as other names that are to many to list here.
EJM

Lakeville, MN

#36 Apr 25, 2009
So, St. Paul bans 10 gang members from the S13. Uhhh, isn't something missing - like other gangs? Interesting that it's okay for other gangs to show at Cinco, but not these creeps.

Meanwhile, don't you feel ever so safe going to Cinco?

“Things can only get better”

Since: May 08

Minneapolis

#37 Apr 26, 2009
There is an answer to the "gang problems" faced by every city in the country.
The local law enforcement agencies known as "gang task forces" know who the gang members are. Do a round up "Old West" style, transport these lovely people to an abandoned military base, surround the base with a heavily armed volunteer militia, give each of the "children" a twenty two caliber revolver and a load of ammunition. Once they have all done what "children" do [kill each other], bring the lone survivor to a courtroom, try them for multiple murders and hang them from the nearest tree.
Gang problem solved.
its fair and balanced

Minneapolis, MN

#38 Apr 26, 2009
EJM wrote:
So, St. Paul bans 10 gang members from the S13. Uhhh, isn't something missing - like other gangs? Interesting that it's okay for other gangs to show at Cinco, but not these creeps.
Meanwhile, don't you feel ever so safe going to Cinco?
If we banned pick pockets from the state fair because they had been caught pick pocketing several times, that's a good thing. We know who the problem is and we're doing something about it. Now we can't ban all the pick pocket's. We may know of others but they may have never been caught at the fair. We can watch these others but we cannot ban them because they have not shown that they are problematic at the fair. I know it's kind of an obscure corralary but if we DID go beyond banning people we KNOW will be a problem. That may be over stepping boundries. The whole innocent til proven guilty thing. These guys ... Theys guilty... These S13 guys come up in incident reports at Cinco year after year.
citizen taxpayer

United States

#39 Apr 26, 2009
They would love to except Public Safety Commissioner Campion and his old boss Stanek are trying to get rid of the Gang Strike Force. It is up to the citizens to stop these two nitwits.
Irreverent One wrote:
There is an answer to the "gang problems" faced by every city in the country.
The local law enforcement agencies known as "gang task forces" know who the gang members are. Do a round up "Old West" style, transport these lovely people to an abandoned military base, surround the base with a heavily armed volunteer militia, give each of the "children" a twenty two caliber revolver and a load of ammunition. Once they have all done what "children" do [kill each other], bring the lone survivor to a courtroom, try them for multiple murders and hang them from the nearest tree.
Gang problem solved.

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