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Minford tax payer

Lucasville, OH

#1 Feb 2, 2013
Minford school teachers belong to a union and I have heard we have 8 teachers in Minford primary that don't live in our community and will not join the districts local union ! Please tell me this is not true!
hhhhmmm

Portsmouth, OH

#2 Feb 3, 2013
Minford tax payer wrote:
Minford school teachers belong to a union and I have heard we have 8 teachers in Minford primary that don't live in our community and will not join the districts local union ! Please tell me this is not true!
Unfortunately, it is true! Sad huh???!!!
Resident

Portsmouth, OH

#3 Feb 4, 2013
Minford tax payer wrote:
Minford school teachers belong to a union and I have heard we have 8 teachers in Minford primary that don't live in our community and will not join the districts local union ! Please tell me this is not true!
The teachers union is not local it is part of a large union that is nationwide. The place of residence does not matter in joining the Union. The only way to opt out of the union would be to show proof of donating an equal amount of what the union dues would be that year. You sound as if teachers not joining the union takes money out of your pocket as a taxpayer. Union dues do not go back to the community just the union. So what is the problem if 8 teachers are not in the union it makes no difference in their required duties or salary.
hhhhmmm

Portsmouth, OH

#4 Feb 4, 2013
Resident wrote:
<quoted text>The teachers union is not local it is part of a large union that is nationwide. The place of residence does not matter in joining the Union. The only way to opt out of the union would be to show proof of donating an equal amount of what the union dues would be that year. You sound as if teachers not joining the union takes money out of your pocket as a taxpayer. Union dues do not go back to the community just the union. So what is the problem if 8 teachers are not in the union it makes no difference in their required duties or salary.


Who are they supposed to donate it to?
Resident

Portsmouth, OH

#5 Feb 4, 2013
hhhhmmm wrote:
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Who are they supposed to donate it to?
Any non-profit charity.
Valley player

Lucasville, OH

#6 Feb 4, 2013
Resident wrote:
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The teachers union is not local it is part of a large union that is nationwide. The place of residence does not matter in joining the Union. The only way to opt out of the union would be to show proof of donating an equal amount of what the union dues would be that year. You sound as if teachers not joining the union takes money out of your pocket as a taxpayer. Union dues do not go back to the community just the union. So what is the problem if 8 teachers are not in the union it makes no difference in their required duties or salary.
Does teachers that opt out of the union get the same benefits the union negotiate?
Resident

Portsmouth, OH

#7 Feb 4, 2013
They get the same salary and benefits as union members but not any union representation if their job is on the line for any reason such as poor performance or misconduct.
Valley player

Lucasville, OH

#8 Feb 5, 2013
Resident wrote:
They get the same salary and benefits as union members but not any union representation if their job is on the line for any reason such as poor performance or misconduct.
So the union negotiate to get them their salary and benefits and they give their dues to charity?
gary

AOL

#9 Feb 5, 2013
Valley player wrote:
<quoted text>So the union negotiate to get them their salary and benefits and they give their dues to charity?
an example of right to work laws?
Resident

Portsmouth, OH

#10 Feb 5, 2013
The teachers must get paid either way so their pay is based upon years of service and education level. Unions may negotiate salaries but that is for the entire district not individual teachers.
hhhhmmm

Portsmouth, OH

#11 Feb 5, 2013
Resident wrote:
The teachers must get paid either way so their pay is based upon years of service and education level. Unions may negotiate salaries but that is for the entire district not individual teachers.
I do not think these teachers donate $$$. Never heard of that!
hhhhmmm

Portsmouth, OH

#12 Feb 5, 2013
Valley player wrote:
<quoted text>So the union negotiate to get them their salary and benefits and they give their dues to charity?
They don't donate!
Resident

Portsmouth, OH

#13 Feb 5, 2013
Valley player wrote:
<quoted text>So the union negotiate to get them their salary and benefits and they give their dues to charity?
The school board has alot more control of salaries than the unions do. I am not sure how much the unions do control salaries if at all. Salaries are also not negotiated by individual teachers, two teachers with teh same education and experience would sign a contract for the same rate of pay without negotiations by anyone.
Resident

Portsmouth, OH

#14 Feb 5, 2013
hhhhmmm wrote:
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I do not think these teachers donate $$$. Never heard of that!
If they are not in the union they are required to show proof of a donation equal to the amount of the union dues.
nonunionworker

United States

#15 Feb 7, 2013
How can this b enforced???? There is no way anybody can MAKE someone donate $$$$$
xteacher

Minford, OH

#16 Feb 7, 2013
They don't have to contribute to a charity. They have the option of either joining the union and paying union dues or not joining and paying a charity. If they don't join they do not get to vote in union elections or on contract proposals. They still receive the same pay and benefit package as union members do as agreed to in the current collective bargaining agreement with the board of education. The union is the exclusive bargaining agent for all the teachers and all salaries, working conditions, and benefits are defined in the agreement. Individual teachers cannot negotiate there own terms.
nonunionworker

United States

#17 Feb 7, 2013
xteacher wrote:
They don't have to contribute to a charity. They have the option of either joining the union and paying union dues or not joining and paying a charity. If they don't join they do not get to vote in union elections or on contract proposals. They still receive the same pay and benefit package as union members do as agreed to in the current collective bargaining agreement with the board of education. The union is the exclusive bargaining agent for all the teachers and all salaries, working conditions, and benefits are defined in the agreement. Individual teachers cannot negotiate there own terms.
So my question is,,,,..who is to enforce the contributions,,,,,what if they do not join the union and do not contribute.....so they do neither and still get the perks of the union. Pretty cool, huh!
xteacher

Minford, OH

#18 Feb 7, 2013
It is all in the contract and part of the terms of their being employed in the district. This is not unique to this district as most of the school districts in the county that have unions have the same arrangement. In most cases after a few years all join the union so they can vote on union officers and contract proposals. If they don't join, they have no say in what the union does.
haha

Portsmouth, OH

#19 Feb 7, 2013
nonunionworker wrote:
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So my question is,,,,..who is to enforce the contributions,,,,,what if they do not join the union and do not contribute.....so they do neither and still get the perks of the union. Pretty cool, huh!
They have to show proof of the donation. Otherwise they would be charged the union dues just like those in the union, the dues is taken out the paychecks of all union members.
Freddie

Chillicothe, OH

#20 Feb 10, 2013
They must be far to the right not to be in a teacher union. They better not get sued.

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