vote no - esplost !!!
BangMyHead

Perry, GA

#21 Feb 27, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
So this is not a new tax but an extension of the tax that we are already paying, thanks for mentioning that.
My compliments for the originality of your username, how many others do you have in this discussion.

Against common sense.
uct

Hayesville, NC

#22 Feb 27, 2013
Please explain the following If it passes what will our tax rate be If it fails what will our tax rate be This should help
Ka Boom

Blairsville, GA

#23 Feb 27, 2013
uct wrote:
Please explain the following If it passes what will our tax rate be If it fails what will our tax rate be This should help
If it passes: too much
If it fails: too much
uct

Hayesville, NC

#24 Feb 27, 2013
This is typical sky is falling politics. $4 million just in interest Payments We are being lead down a steep mountain and do not even know it. There are wants and there are true needs and todays leaders do not know the difference vote no simple as ABC
Fud

Fitzgerald, GA

#25 Feb 27, 2013
Voted no this morning urge everyone to do the same.

“Whine-It's all Bush's Fault”

Since: Feb 13

Blairsville

#26 Feb 27, 2013
Education wrote:
Yep, unbelievable. And I have heard of this "secret" curriculum being promoted throughout the Nation.

Why isn't something being done, is the whole Nation asleep?

Thanks, for the link.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#27 Feb 27, 2013
Education wrote:
After reading the referenced article I wondered, what isn't being revealed since the article is relying so heavily on quotes from the parents.

Well, a quick search with google provided the following link:
http://www.lumberton.k12.tx.us/education/comp...

...The lesson that was offered focused on exposing students to world cultures, religions, customs, and belief systems. A description on the whiteboard behind the students show the splits in religions: Islam (Sunni and Shia), Judaism (Reform, Conservatives, and Orthodox), and Christianity (Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant). Clothing expresses the individual culture. The lesson is not teaching a specific religion, and the students volunteered to wear the clothing.

The portrait focused only on Middle Eastern attire and the students are wearing variations of this customary attire found in the Middle Eastern culture. This portrait does not reflect the entire aspect of the lesson. The lesson encompassed diversity education so students receive a firm understanding of our world and why people are motivated differently.
.....
Can you imagine a World Geography class exposing students to the fact that people in different parts of the world may have a different perspective on things. Course there's bound to be a conspiracy in there somewhere

"so students receive a firm understanding of our world and why people are motivated differently"

“Whine-It's all Bush's Fault”

Since: Feb 13

Blairsville

#28 Feb 27, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
After reading the referenced article I wondered, what isn't being revealed since the article is relying so heavily on quotes from the parents.
Well, a quick search with google provided the following link:
http://www.lumberton.k12.tx.us/education/comp...
...The lesson that was offered focused on exposing students to world cultures, religions, customs, and belief systems. A description on the whiteboard behind the students show the splits in religions: Islam (Sunni and Shia), Judaism (Reform, Conservatives, and Orthodox), and Christianity (Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant). Clothing expresses the individual culture. The lesson is not teaching a specific religion, and the students volunteered to wear the clothing.
The portrait focused only on Middle Eastern attire and the students are wearing variations of this customary attire found in the Middle Eastern culture. This portrait does not reflect the entire aspect of the lesson. The lesson encompassed diversity education so students receive a firm understanding of our world and why people are motivated differently.
.....
Can you imagine a World Geography class exposing students to the fact that people in different parts of the world may have a different perspective on things. Course there's bound to be a conspiracy in there somewhere
"so students receive a firm understanding of our world and why people are motivated differently"
As usual in your routine MO we can always rely upon you to go the extra mile to lead those still foolish enough, to believe such trash, to slaughter.

Many are slowly waking up to a world they never thought they would see, and really had rather not be a part of any longer, and much of the credit for that belongs to people such as you.

Those of us, who see the downfall of our Nation coming, still stand strong in our determination to defend our liberties, because we are always aware of the horrors that befall us should we fail.

Not like you and your companions who appear to delight in hastening that demise, and without a clue of the realization that you yourselves will be first and foremost recipients of the destruction to which you so enthusiastically contribute.

Yep, while ignoring the complaints and concerns of parents and teachers you, painstakingly attempt to find justification for the offenders. But, of course, that is your mission; And in doing that you find nothing more than a poor, ridiculous, and outlandish defensive statement from one who is partially responsible for the outlandish and unacceptable situation from the start.

No. Responsible administrators would seek to find out who promoted this, who sponsored this, who allowed this to see the light of day, and who in their right minds didnít expose this and stop it from the start.

When and if these things are determined, take actions post haste to remove these people, organization, or entities from decision make positions never to be allowed to influence our children again.

Heaven know we donít need to have our academia produce any more scholars such as you.
Common Sense

Warner Robins, GA

#29 Feb 27, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
After reading the referenced article I wondered, what isn't being revealed since the article is relying so heavily on quotes from the parents.
Well, a quick search with google provided the following link:
http://www.lumberton.k12.tx.us/education/comp...
...The lesson that was offered focused on exposing students to world cultures, religions, customs, and belief systems. A description on the whiteboard behind the students show the splits in religions: Islam (Sunni and Shia), Judaism (Reform, Conservatives, and Orthodox), and Christianity (Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant). Clothing expresses the individual culture. The lesson is not teaching a specific religion, and the students volunteered to wear the clothing.
The portrait focused only on Middle Eastern attire and the students are wearing variations of this customary attire found in the Middle Eastern culture. This portrait does not reflect the entire aspect of the lesson. The lesson encompassed diversity education so students receive a firm understanding of our world and why people are motivated differently.
.....
Can you imagine a World Geography class exposing students to the fact that people in different parts of the world may have a different perspective on things. Course there's bound to be a conspiracy in there somewhere
"so students receive a firm understanding of our world and why people are motivated differently"
Tell me, would you have defended this situation had the students been dressed as Nazis, KKK, head shaved and tatood skinheads, or with faces darkened with shoe polish? Had any of this occured, do you really think that there would not be law suits, arrests, firings, expulsions, etc?
Wheeler

United States

#30 Feb 27, 2013
All you goobers should quit your bitching and vote for the new tax. You'all spend more than that on beer, cigarettes, energy drinks and chewin backy. It cost a lot to run schools
ABeerMan

Perry, GA

#31 Feb 27, 2013
Wheeler wrote:
All you goobers should quit your bitching and vote for the new tax. You'all spend more than that on beer, cigarettes, energy drinks and chewin backy. It cost a lot to run schools
Obviously a man from Kentuck, which produces what? One Genius? and it's not you.
Oh my

Young Harris, GA

#32 Feb 27, 2013
Yep- wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
As usual in your routine MO we can always rely upon you to go the extra mile to lead those still foolish enough, to believe such trash, to slaughter.
Many are slowly waking up to a world they never thought they would see, and really had rather not be a part of any longer, and much of the credit for that belongs to people such as you.
Those of us, who see the downfall of our Nation coming, still stand strong in our determination to defend our liberties, because we are always aware of the horrors that befall us should we fail.
Not like you and your companions who appear to delight in hastening that demise, and without a clue of the realization that you yourselves will be first and foremost recipients of the destruction to which you so enthusiastically contribute.
Yep, while ignoring the complaints and concerns of parents and teachers you, painstakingly attempt to find justification for the offenders. But, of course, that is your mission; And in doing that you find nothing more than a poor, ridiculous, and outlandish defensive statement from one who is partially responsible for the outlandish and unacceptable situation from the start.
No. Responsible administrators would seek to find out who promoted this, who sponsored this, who allowed this to see the light of day, and who in their right minds didnít expose this and stop it from the start.
When and if these things are determined, take actions post haste to remove these people, organization, or entities from decision make positions never to be allowed to influence our children again.
Heaven know we donít need to have our academia produce any more scholars such as you.
Holy Smokes, Batman, who could ever imagine that all of this will result from the study of World Geography. That the "downfall of our Nation" is the natural outcome of exploring how others might view the world is simply unbelievable. Some may even begin to wonder about the true motives for your opposition to the extension of this esplost.

“Whine-It's all Bush's Fault”

Since: Feb 13

Blairsville

#33 Feb 27, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Holy Smokes, Batman, who could ever imagine that all of this will result from the study of World Geography. That the "downfall of our Nation" is the natural outcome of exploring how others might view the world is simply unbelievable. Some may even begin to wonder about the true motives for your opposition to the extension of this esplost.
As usual you are attempting to combine two independent issues of debate.

First the Lumberton High School curriculum fiasco of which I (and you I might add) were originally addressing.

But then you cunningly shift to an entirely different subject matter in questioning motives in the opposition of Union Countyís ESPLOST.

Nice try. Although I think most people would recognize immediately that the two are not remotely connected. Unless, of course, YOU are suggesting the ESPLOST would possibly result in that type of a curriculum being introduced in to our local schools if the referendum is approved.

Is that your position? I think not.

As well, I think you, and anyone reading my comments with regard to the travesty at the Lumberton High School, understand exactly the concerns my observations communicated.

If you would spend a fraction of your time supporting our way of life, as you do attempting to destroy it, you could actually be a benefit to society, and contribute something positive.

“Whine-It's all Bush's Fault”

Since: Feb 13

Blairsville

#34 Feb 28, 2013
I happen to disagree with the positions of the NGN and the Commissioner, and others in their support of the ESPLOST. Of course many of us expect them to take the positions they do. Nonetheless, there are those of us in the community who has opinions and positions as well that are worthy of examination.

To me their position isnít the objectionable part of what should be a responsible and reasonable discussion. What to me is unacceptable is the arrogance, and hauteur with which they discount our concerns relating to reductions in expenditure, lack of fiscal responsibility, a total disregard as to our objections of what we consider inappropriate expenditures and a general attitude of superiority in knowing how best to spend (or should I say waste) the money we provide for what we think is in the best interest of our children.

After all the money or the children doesnít belong to them, both belong to us. So we would appreciate it if we were treated with that in mind.

We are not the pushovers, you take us for. We can deny the tax, and as we have shown, put a new more responsive leadership in office.

Following is an excellent letter you may read in the NGN in this weeks editorial section. Amazing huh?

Anyhow, it deserves repeating here for those who may have missed it. Provides for some excellent facts for thought, very well written opening questions that need answer.

The author has provided some very helpful information, and the sources for verification. He deserves our appreciation for the letter, and NGN for printing it.
**********

NGN
Editor:

While I have not made up my mind whether or not I will vote Ďyesí or Ďnoí to the ESPLOST tax on March 19, I am concerned about several items with the vote, listed below. I know the Schools could use the money, but I have not been convinced there is a real need for the money at this time.

Below are my concerns:

First, I fought vigorously against the 1-cent Transportation sales tax last year for several reasons. One of those reasons was the misinformation being put out about the percentage of a one cent sales tax that out of county visitors spend in Union County. I stated numerous times in several different public forums that visitors only account for less than 10 percent of a sales tax collected in Union County. I backed up my argument with data from the report put out by the U.S. Travel Association Washington, D.C. in September 2011. There has been no major change in spending habits since 2010. A close study of the report will show less than 10 percent of visitors contribute to a 1-cent sales tax in Union County. The vast majority of sales taxes, 90 percent, are paid by local residents.

The Travel Industry compiles and supplies this data for every State that requests it. One School Board member has stated in a previous North Georgia News article that 30-40 percent of a sales tax comes from out of county visitors. The local GOP party has put an ad in the NGN using the same 30-40 percent. A letter to the Editor from Patrick Malone uses the same number, 30-40 percent.

The report can be found at this internet website:

http://www.georgia.org/SiteCollectionDocument... Impact_Report.pdf

The U.S. Travel Industry Report is the leading authority Governments use for insight to institute policies to improve tourism in their respective locales.

(Continued)

“Whine-It's all Bush's Fault”

Since: Feb 13

Blairsville

#35 Feb 28, 2013
(Continued)

Second, the local School Board paid out over $2 million in interest on the present ESPLOST tax out of approximately $16.5 million collected. The Board has said it will take out another Loan for 6 percent interest on the new tax if it passes. The interest on that loan also will cost taxpayers over $2 million. More than $4 million is a lot of money that will be wasted on interest payments that should be used to improve our School system, not to improve Investors pockets.

Third, the Union County School System consists of five Schools with approximately 2,600 students as of present count. In 2008 Union Schools had 2,659 students according to the Georgia Department of Education and in 2009 Union Schools had 2,591 students. Today we have approximately 2,600 according to our local School Board. One of the things the Board is saying are the Schools needs more classrooms. I have to ask the question why do we need more classrooms. We have no more students than we did in 2008, in fact we have less today.

Fourth, the School Board has put no prioritization on any of the things they say they will spend the money on. They have put forth a list that everyone should be convinced as to whether or not the School system really needs at this point in time of a depressed economy, or whether it is a wish list on the School Boardís part.

I will be attending the Town Hall meeting the School Board is putting on Thursday night, Feb. 28 at 6:30 p.m. in the Middle School Gym. I encourage everyone who can to attend.

Author
See NGN
Battle of Bozos

Dahlonega, GA

#36 Feb 28, 2013
There they go at it again...... Oh My vs. Yep-

Leftie Lunatic and Right Wing Nut. Why don't you two go get a room.
Wheeler

United States

#37 Feb 28, 2013
ABeerMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously a man from Kentuck, which produces what? One Genius? and it's not you.
I never claimed to be a genius. You know that I am right though.

Goobers are everywhere in Union county. Except in the dentists offices because most of you dont havae any teeth. The favorite restaurent there is McDonalds where you all go through the drive up line and then throw your wrapper and cups out the window. You ever look at the grocery carts in line with all the potato chips and snack cakes? These are considered staples by all you goobers. If you finish the 5th grade you all consider that as a higher education. Then when the county request a tax hike to fund education you all go bat sh-t and whine like a bunch of goober babies. Do you think you might have to cut back on scratch off lottery tickets or energy drinks if it passes. Might be good for all of you to lose a few pounds and you know get a job somewhere/
Bet you did not know

Sycamore, GA

#38 Feb 28, 2013
You cannot improve the minds of our children with money used to fund football fields and basketball courts. If You want to teach our young then get your ass off the football fields and into the science lab. And yes I played ball but the Military is what taught me to work together. We elect idiots to guide our young so why do we expect to get anything but what we get.
Wheeler

United States

#39 Feb 28, 2013
Bet you did not know wrote:
You cannot improve the minds of our children with money used to fund football fields and basketball courts. If You want to teach our young then get your ass off the football fields and into the science lab. And yes I played ball but the Military is what taught me to work together. We elect idiots to guide our young so why do we expect to get anything but what we get.
its all about goobers electing goobers to run the schools to teach little goobers. what do you expect in Gooberville?
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#40 Feb 28, 2013
Battle of Bozos wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
There they go at it again...... Oh My vs. Yep-
Leftie Lunatic and Right Wing Nut. Why don't you two go get a room.
The Concern Troll has returned, curious, are you ready to propose some of those vaunted middle-of-the-ideas that will lead to meaningful discussion. Perhaps you need more time to decide on a username you're willing to stick with.

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