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Tony

Blairsville, GA

#1 Jul 17, 2012
We now know for sure Obama is nothing less then a Socialist.
In his speech yesterday he said " If you own a business, you had nothing to do with the success of it, it was Government that made it successful".

That is funny, I thought the government was my biggest competitor and most likely to put me out of business.

His true Socialist wannabe a communist feathers have shown.
MOuntian BUtthead

Jefferson, GA

#2 Jul 17, 2012
Oh, Oh, now you've pissed off the kool aid drinkers.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#3 Jul 17, 2012
Just a bit of context...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/20...

...There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didnít -- look, if youíve been successful, you didnít get there on your own. You didnít get there on your own. Iím always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.(Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If youíve got a business -- you didnít build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didnít get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we donít do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.
South68

Cornelia, GA

#4 Jul 17, 2012
What the rich pay in taxes far exceeds what the poor and middle class pay, proportionately. My motto: I support the needy, not the lazy.

Since: Nov 11

Griffin, GA

#5 Jul 17, 2012
Oh my wrote:
Just a bit of context...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/20...
...There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didnít -- look, if youíve been successful, you didnít get there on your own. You didnít get there on your own. Iím always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.(Applause.)
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If youíve got a business -- you didnít build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didnít get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we donít do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.
Thats enough to make u sick!! He has no clue what he is doing!

“Skin a Floridian”

Since: Aug 09

Hiawassee, GA

#6 Jul 17, 2012
Branding someone as a socialist has become the slur du jour by leading lights of the American right from Newt Gingrich to Rush Limbaugh, If we could get beyond such nonsense, I think this country could use a good debate about what goes on here compared to places with a long social-democratic tradition like Sweden, Norway and Finland, where, by and large, the middle class has a far higher standard of living than we do."

The roots of socialism in America can be traced to the arrival of German immigrants in the 1850s, according to Rutgers University professor Norman Markowitz, who teaches the history of socialism and communism.

The Socialist Party of America grew significantly in the early 20th century under the leadership of union organizer Eugene V. Debs, electing a congressman and dozens of mayors. Debs ran for president five times, getting more than 913,000 votes in 1920 ó the party's high-water mark.(At the time, Debs was in prison on charges that he had urged resistance to the draft during World War I.)

The party's following eroded during the 1920s, and Debs was succeeded as leader by Norman Thomas, a Presbyterian minister in New York. During the Great Depression, Thomas received 892,000 votes in the 1932 presidential election as Franklin Roosevelt won the first of his four victories.

After World War II, the anti-communist crusade led by Sen. Joseph McCarthy and the broader tensions of the Cold War relegated organized socialism in the U.S. to the political margins. The term "creeping socialism" emerged, used by conservatives to denigrate various policy proposals and initiatives that involved a role for the government.

After the Cold War's end, use of "socialist" as a political insult also receded. Markowitz believes its recent revival relates directly to the animosity toward Obama that is shared by a certain segment of Americans.

"There's this hysterical outbreak of abuse to prove that the president is not American, that he's a secret Muslim, that policies that past Republican administrations would have adopted are part of a socialist, communist conspiracy," Markowitz said.

Due in part to the multiple definitions of socialism, some conservatives wrestle with semantics as they seek appropriate terms for Obama's ideology.

"Instinctively, the president is a collectivist," said Ken Blackwell, former Ohio secretary of state and now a conservative commentator. "My fundamental belief is that he wants to transform our market economy into a government-controlled economy ó not far afield from European-style socialism."

Steven Hayward, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and author of a two-volume biography of Ronald Reagan, said Obama is not a socialist under the strict definitions of that term ó central economic planning and government control of production.

"However, socialism has a secondary meaning that is harder to explain ó government regulations, supervision of the private economy," Hayward said. "The problem now with Obama is,'What does he really think?'"

Ezra Klein, a blogger and columnist for The Washington Post, tackled the issue recently in a posting headlined "Barack Obama: Worst. Socialist. Ever."

Klein cited data indicating that the government sector of the economy shrank during the past three years.

"If President Obama is truly a socialist," Klein wrote, "then he's not a very good one."

Since: Aug 10

Dawsonville, GA

#7 Jul 17, 2012
Oh my wrote:
Just a bit of context...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/20...
...There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didnít -- look, if youíve been successful, you didnít get there on your own. You didnít get there on your own. Iím always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.(Applause.)
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If youíve got a business -- you didnít build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didnít get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we donít do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.
There you go again confusing the issue with facts.

“Skin a Floridian”

Since: Aug 09

Hiawassee, GA

#8 Jul 17, 2012
Truthis Blairsville wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again confusing the issue with facts.
Fact--- Obamee gots a swole head cause hes the first Black Pres han hes lettin thet gets ins his way somethang awful. Sweetiepie Iz awantin yore self to tells me how a Pres thet is all swolled up likes a big ole Frawg ken do his job right. Splains it tos me, wills you?
Old Timer

United States

#9 Jul 17, 2012
Tony wrote:
We now know for sure Obama is nothing less then a Socialist.
In his speech yesterday he said " If you own a business, you had nothing to do with the success of it, it was Government that made it successful".
That is funny, I thought the government was my biggest competitor and most likely to put me out of business.
His true Socialist wannabe a communist feathers have shown.
Government is not your biggest competitor.....with Obama at the helm it is your biggest enemy! 2012 Obama GONE!!!
Game On

Cornelia, GA

#10 Jul 17, 2012
You don't have a clue. Ronald Reagan is probably your hero and you are hoping for the same in Romney. Government; huh we have not had very much government since 2000 have we?
Old Timer wrote:
<quoted text>
Government is not your biggest competitor.....with Obama at the helm it is your biggest enemy! 2012 Obama GONE!!!
Old Timer

United States

#11 Jul 17, 2012
Slowpok wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact--- Obamee gots a swole head cause hes the first Black Pres han hes lettin thet gets ins his way somethang awful. Sweetiepie Iz awantin yore self to tells me how a Pres thet is all swolled up likes a big ole Frawg ken do his job right. Splains it tos me, wills you?
I'm so sick of this first black president crap....it's not even true, he's milano half white and half black and he sucks as POTUS.
Game On

Cornelia, GA

#12 Jul 17, 2012
He's not black, high yallor! He could never have the ignorant ego Bush had. I think Romney is going to have a female running mate what do you think about that.
Slowpok wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact--- Obamee gots a swole head cause hes the first Black Pres han hes lettin thet gets ins his way somethang awful. Sweetiepie Iz awantin yore self to tells me how a Pres thet is all swolled up likes a big ole Frawg ken do his job right. Splains it tos me, wills you?
Informed Opiniom

Lehigh Acres, FL

#13 Jul 17, 2012
South68 wrote:
What the rich pay in taxes far exceeds what the poor and middle class pay, proportionately. My motto: I support the needy, not the lazy.
Mine is:

anyone in Georgia,
a state that takes more from the federal government than it pays,
should be grateful to states like New York and Florida
you know
states that pay more in federal taxes than they get back in funds,
subsidizing Georgia,

must be a liberal socialist commie deadbeat parasite.

OK - The fact are right - but just having a little fun.

Damn those pesky facts.

Let's just ignore them and pretend we aren't bigger pigs at the government trough than those we criticize.

Screw reality, we Right Wingers like our pretend planet.

By the way, where is my damn farm subsidy, Social Security, Medicare, V.AS. benefits, federal highway money, and government insured banks.

I gotta get my benefits before I run to the rally to demand we stop giving benefits to those lazy bastards.
Informed Opiniom

Lehigh Acres, FL

#14 Jul 17, 2012
Old Timer wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm so sick of this first black president crap....it's not even true, he's milano half white and half black and he sucks as POTUS.
"Milano"

Did you mean Mulatto ?

But hey, its America and you are entitled to your opinion.

For what it worth, I kinda agree, Just wondering who'll be the best of the worst choice in November.
Informed Opiniom

Lehigh Acres, FL

#15 Jul 17, 2012
Slowpok wrote:
Branding someone as a socialist has become the slur du jour by leading lights of the American right from Newt Gingrich to Rush Limbaugh, If we could get beyond such nonsense, I think this country could use a good debate about what goes on here compared to places with a long social-democratic tradition like Sweden, Norway and Finland, where, by and large, the middle class has a far higher standard of living than we do."
The roots of socialism in America can be traced to the arrival of German immigrants in the 1850s, according to Rutgers University professor Norman Markowitz, who teaches the history of socialism and communism.
The Socialist Party of America grew significantly in the early 20th century under the leadership of union organizer Eugene V. Debs, electing a congressman and dozens of mayors. Debs ran for president five times, getting more than 913,000 votes in 1920 ó the party's high-water mark.(At the time, Debs was in prison on charges that he had urged resistance to the draft during World War I.)
The party's following eroded during the 1920s, and Debs was succeeded as leader by Norman Thomas, a Presbyterian minister in New York. During the Great Depression, Thomas received 892,000 votes in the 1932 presidential election as Franklin Roosevelt won the first of his four victories.
After World War II, the anti-communist crusade led by Sen. Joseph McCarthy and the broader tensions of the Cold War relegated organized socialism in the U.S. to the political margins. The term "creeping socialism" emerged, used by conservatives to denigrate various policy proposals and initiatives that involved a role for the government.
After the Cold War's end, use of "socialist" as a political insult also receded. Markowitz believes its recent revival relates directly to the animosity toward Obama that is shared by a certain segment of Americans.
"There's this hysterical outbreak of abuse to prove that the president is not American, that he's a secret Muslim, that policies that past Republican administrations would have adopted are part of a socialist, communist conspiracy," Markowitz said.
Due in part to the multiple definitions of socialism, some conservatives wrestle with semantics as they seek appropriate terms for Obama's ideology.
"Instinctively, the president is a collectivist," said Ken Blackwell, former Ohio secretary of state and now a conservative commentator. "My fundamental belief is that he wants to transform our market economy into a government-controlled economy ó not far afield from European-style socialism."
Steven Hayward, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and author of a two-volume biography of Ronald Reagan, said Obama is not a socialist under the strict definitions of that term ó central economic planning and government control of production.
"However, socialism has a secondary meaning that is harder to explain ó government regulations, supervision of the private economy," Hayward said. "The problem now with Obama is,'What does he really think?'"
Ezra Klein, a blogger and columnist for The Washington Post, tackled the issue recently in a posting headlined "Barack Obama: Worst. Socialist. Ever."
Klein cited data indicating that the government sector of the economy shrank during the past three years.
"If President Obama is truly a socialist," Klein wrote, "then he's not a very good one."
Great post.

Of course by today's Right Wing standards, anyone more moderate than Rand Paul is a socialist.

Truman,
Eisenhower,
Reagan,
Bush I,
were all liberal socialist commies.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#16 Jul 18, 2012
Sen. Ron Johnson invokes specter of USSR to attack President Obama's green energy programs
by Meteor Blades
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/17/1110...

...Johnson is clearly unfamiliar with exactly how private enterprise has operated in tandem with government since the United States became a nation. Take three examples from long before the Soviet Union was a gleam in anybody's eye highlighted by William Lazonick:

The United States gave away more than 5 percent of the nation (an area the size of California) to the railroads under the Pacific Railroads Act of the 1860s. The companies could sell this land or use it as collateral for loans. Today dozens of companies continue to hold hundreds of thousands of acres of land from these grants, clear-cutting them, digging coal out of them, pumping oil and gas from them.

Subsidies under the Contract Air Mail Act of 1925 provided nascent airline companies with the wherewithal to develop new airplane bodies, leading within a few years to the all-metal, two-engine planes that allowed passenger air travel to grow so rapidly.

Funding a Revolution: Government Support for Computing Research stated in 1999: "Federal funding not only financed development of most of the nation's early digital computers, but also has continued to enable breakthroughs in areas as wide ranging as computer time-sharing, the Internet, artificial intelligence, and virtual reality as the industry has matured."

There's more, including the Interstate Highway System, government's heavy subsidies to the nuclear power industry, the industries that have grown up around GPS, and on and on, as the Breakthrough Institute has pointed out.

Rep. Johnson and the rest of the brigade that makes these comparisons of U.S. government investment ignore our own history as well as the history of nations like Korea, Japan and Taiwan who became economic powerhouses without any kowtowing to Soviet economics.

It's tempting to label as ignoramuses Johnson and Boehner and others using this tack. But they know full well what they're doing. For these guys and all their Rovian buddies, if you can get "Soviet" and "Obama" into the same sentence, it's a win.
Tsplost

Savannah, GA

#17 Jul 18, 2012

Sheriff Joe has something to say about Obama.


http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe...
Thomas

Blairsville, GA

#18 Jul 18, 2012
Since he built my business and it had nothing to do with me working 70 hours week and no vacations, maybe the dumb as+ will send someone in so I can take a vacation for a week or two.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#19 Jul 18, 2012
Thomas wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Since he built my business and it had nothing to do with me working 70 hours week and no vacations, maybe the dumb as+ will send someone in so I can take a vacation for a week or two.
Tell us what your business is and we'll explore the many facetts of infrastructure that worked to make you a success. Or perhaps you feel that you built your business in a vaccum.
BTDT

Albany, GA

#20 Jul 18, 2012
Oh my wrote:
Sen. Ron Johnson invokes specter of USSR to attack President Obama's green energy programs
by Meteor Blades
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/17/1110...
...Johnson is clearly unfamiliar with exactly how private enterprise has operated in tandem with government since the United States became a nation. Take three examples from long before the Soviet Union was a gleam in anybody's eye highlighted by William Lazonick:
The United States gave away more than 5 percent of the nation (an area the size of California) to the railroads under the Pacific Railroads Act of the 1860s. The companies could sell this land or use it as collateral for loans. Today dozens of companies continue to hold hundreds of thousands of acres of land from these grants, clear-cutting them, digging coal out of them, pumping oil and gas from them.
Subsidies under the Contract Air Mail Act of 1925 provided nascent airline companies with the wherewithal to develop new airplane bodies, leading within a few years to the all-metal, two-engine planes that allowed passenger air travel to grow so rapidly.
Funding a Revolution: Government Support for Computing Research stated in 1999: "Federal funding not only financed development of most of the nation's early digital computers, but also has continued to enable breakthroughs in areas as wide ranging as computer time-sharing, the Internet, artificial intelligence, and virtual reality as the industry has matured."
There's more, including the Interstate Highway System, government's heavy subsidies to the nuclear power industry, the industries that have grown up around GPS, and on and on, as the Breakthrough Institute has pointed out.
Rep. Johnson and the rest of the brigade that makes these comparisons of U.S. government investment ignore our own history as well as the history of nations like Korea, Japan and Taiwan who became economic powerhouses without any kowtowing to Soviet economics.
It's tempting to label as ignoramuses Johnson and Boehner and others using this tack. But they know full well what they're doing. For these guys and all their Rovian buddies, if you can get "Soviet" and "Obama" into the same sentence, it's a win.
The "government" didn't fund or invest in anything. The government has no money unless it was taken by force - under threat of losing liberty or life - from the American taxpayers who worked to create it.

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