No decision yet in Mehserle sentencing

No decision yet in Mehserle sentencing

There are 32 comments on the Monterey County Herald story from Nov 5, 2010, titled No decision yet in Mehserle sentencing. In it, Monterey County Herald reports that:

In this Jan 14, 2009 file photo, former Bay Area Rapid Transit police officer Johannes Mehserle, appears in the East Fork Justice Court in Minden, Nev.

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JPJ

Yorba Linda, CA

#1 Nov 5, 2010
This poor bastard has been railroaded and had his life ruined. If the "victim" had done as requested, would never have happened.

If you're not guilty of something, wasting 5 minutes to respond to a policeman is no big deal. When will they ever learn.
cal

Carmel Valley, CA

#2 Nov 5, 2010
has a black cop ever shot a white kid in the back?
WRONG

Monterey, CA

#3 Nov 5, 2010
JPJ wrote:
This poor **** has been railroaded and had his life ruined. If the "victim" had done as requested, would never have happened.
If you're not guilty of something, wasting 5 minutes to respond to a policeman is no big deal. When will they ever learn.
Police officers should have enough training and emotional integrity, if they are going to walk around with guns, that they don't kill people. Even if it were a mistake, he needs to be made an example of. Police officers should be held to a higher standard when it comes to an accidental shooting. Not be given carte blanche everytime they kill someone by mistake. Sorry, he's the one who wanted to be the big man who walks around with a gun and pushes people around. He needs to accept the responsibility for killing someone. This just gives all cops a bad reputation and takes away the trust that people need to have in them.
MZG

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#4 Nov 5, 2010
This is such a shameless display of racism. He belongs in a solitary cell for life.
what the

Marina, CA

#5 Nov 5, 2010
"has a black cop ever shot a white kid in the back?"
You bet,in fact July of this year a black cop shot a white male outside an autoparts store. Cops, black or white Do make mistakes. And no matter the color they should pay for them if they are found to be at fault.
Hmmm

San Francisco, CA

#6 Nov 5, 2010
JPJ wrote:
This poor **** has been railroaded and had his life ruined. If the "victim" had done as requested, would never have happened.
If you're not guilty of something, wasting 5 minutes to respond to a policeman is no big deal. When will they ever learn.
Because responding to any type of authority would be a violation of his civil rights. It looked like a lot of chaos on that platform. When cops are outnumbered, what are they supposed to do with an unruly crowd? Unless someone is a cop, they shouldn't presume to know what kind of pressure Mehserle was under.
Punchie

Palo Alto, CA

#7 Nov 5, 2010
Hmmm wrote:
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Because responding to any type of authority would be a violation of his civil rights. It looked like a lot of chaos on that platform. When cops are outnumbered, what are they supposed to do with an unruly crowd? Unless someone is a cop, they shouldn't presume to know what kind of pressure Mehserle was under.
Sure, Grant didn't deserve to get shot & die. That is a given. However, we are talking about a person (Grant) who already had a police record for drug dealing, resisting arrest and other stuff. We are not talking about someone who was a completely law abiding citizen being detained. It amazes me that people (regardless of race) cry and complain that they got roughed up by police when they were the ones who's own behavior leads them to direct contact with police in the first place. Think about just how many other hundreds/thousands of people passed through that exact same BART station that day & night. No one else was roughed up by the police. That's NOT a coincidence!
No Justice

Monterey, CA

#8 Nov 5, 2010
JPJ wrote:
This poor **** has been railroaded and had his life ruined. If the "victim" had done as requested, would never have happened.
If you're not guilty of something, wasting 5 minutes to respond to a policeman is no big deal. When will they ever learn.
You are 100% correct. Grant contributed substantially to his own death.
Really

Salinas, CA

#10 Nov 5, 2010
If you say he deserved more you are uneducated and unaware of the the law, reality and the situation as as whole. It was the correct verdict.
Hmmm

San Francisco, CA

#11 Nov 5, 2010
Punchie wrote:
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Sure, Grant didn't deserve to get shot & die. That is a given. However, we are talking about a person (Grant) who already had a police record for drug dealing, resisting arrest and other stuff. We are not talking about someone who was a completely law abiding citizen being detained. It amazes me that people (regardless of race) cry and complain that they got roughed up by police when they were the ones who's own behavior leads them to direct contact with police in the first place. Think about just how many other hundreds/thousands of people passed through that exact same BART station that day & night. No one else was roughed up by the police. That's NOT a coincidence!
Exactly. There was a cause and re-action. He resisted and got tased (accidentally shot).
SAD

Monterey, CA

#12 Nov 5, 2010
Hmmm wrote:
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Exactly. There was a cause and re-action. He resisted and got tased (accidentally shot).
A taser and a gun are nothing alike. He obviously had to take the safety off the gun before he used it. Unless he walks around without his safety on. Taking the safety off he would've realized it was a gun and not a taser.
No Justice

Monterey, CA

#13 Nov 5, 2010
SAD wrote:
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A taser and a gun are nothing alike. He obviously had to take the safety off the gun before he used it. Unless he walks around without his safety on. Taking the safety off he would've realized it was a gun and not a taser.
Where is the safety on a Smith & Wesson revolver? Also, if his duty weapon was a Glock, the safety is incorporated in the trigger.
SAD

Monterey, CA

#14 Nov 5, 2010
No Justice wrote:
<quoted text> Where is the safety on a Smith & Wesson revolver? Also, if his duty weapon was a Glock, the safety is incorporated in the trigger.
Where is the safety on a taser? If it were a revolver he'd have to pull the hammer back. If it were a Glock he'd KNOW his finger was on the trigger of the gun and not on a taser. If he can't tell the difference between a gun and a taser, he needs to go to jail just for being stupid. If this were your child, you'd feel differently. He doesn't have the right to shoot someone in the back.
BadForEveryone

Monterey, CA

#15 Nov 5, 2010
SAD wrote:
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A taser and a gun are nothing alike. He obviously had to take the safety off the gun before he used it. Unless he walks around without his safety on. Taking the safety off he would've realized it was a gun and not a taser.

Most police guns are DAO (double action only) or in the case of a Glock a "safe action". Most of these pistols do not have trigger safetys. Instead they have a longer harder trigger pull much like a revolver.
SAD

Monterey, CA

#16 Nov 5, 2010
BadForEveryone wrote:
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Most police guns are DAO (double action only) or in the case of a Glock a "safe action". Most of these pistols do not have trigger safetys. Instead they have a longer harder trigger pull much like a revolver.
Yeah, you're right. I don't know that much about guns. I've never owned one.I just looked up the Glock, I guess there's a flange on the trigger that works as a safety. Well, I guess I used a dumb arguement. He probably pulled his gun and had his finger on the trigger and it accidently went off? Does that sound more reasonable? It's possible I've over reacted with my comments. But I still feel bad for the kid and his family. The cop should've behaved differently, but he's paying for it and I'm sure he feels remorse. What a mess.
Sally

Monterey, CA

#17 Nov 5, 2010
It was an in justice to have only given him so low of a prison term, but, this is no way to deal with it.
Truth

Monterey, CA

#18 Nov 5, 2010
SAD wrote:
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Yeah, you're right. I don't know that much about guns. I've never owned one.I just looked up the Glock, I guess there's a flange on the trigger that works as a safety. Well, I guess I used a dumb arguement. He probably pulled his gun and had his finger on the trigger and it accidently went off? Does that sound more reasonable? It's possible I've over reacted with my comments. But I still feel bad for the kid and his family. The cop should've behaved differently, but he's paying for it and I'm sure he feels remorse. What a mess.
You did use a dumb argument; but at least you manned up and admitted your ignorance about guns. I am not a cop, but have a lot of experience in emergency situations. Being able to function and do the job is not easy to say the least. The cops deserve our understanding and support; along with the Monday morning quarterbacking.
BadForEveryone

Monterey, CA

#19 Nov 5, 2010
SAD wrote:
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Yeah, you're right. I don't know that much about guns. I've never owned one.I just looked up the Glock, I guess there's a flange on the trigger that works as a safety. Well, I guess I used a dumb arguement. He probably pulled his gun and had his finger on the trigger and it accidently went off? Does that sound more reasonable? It's possible I've over reacted with my comments. But I still feel bad for the kid and his family. The cop should've behaved differently, but he's paying for it and I'm sure he feels remorse. What a mess.
It was a horrible mistake that many people have very passionate arguments for one side or the other. I personally don't belive Mehserle intentionaly killed this young man. It is irrational to belive that he would put his well paying job, his freedom, and reputation on the block like that. That being said, he is a police officer and should be held to a higher standard regardless of his actions being an accident. I think his sentence was fair. I don't think Grant deserved to die. I think this is a horrible situation for all involved.
Copin

Salinas, CA

#20 Nov 5, 2010
BadForEveryone wrote:
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It was a horrible mistake that many people have very passionate arguments for one side or the other. I personally don't belive Mehserle intentionaly killed this young man. It is irrational to belive that he would put his well paying job, his freedom, and reputation on the block like that. That being said, he is a police officer and should be held to a higher standard regardless of his actions being an accident. I think his sentence was fair. I don't think Grant deserved to die. I think this is a horrible situation for all involved.
Yes he would of just did think, he was going to get caught on camera.
BadForEveryone

Monterey, CA

#21 Nov 5, 2010
Copin wrote:
<quoted text>Yes he would of just did think, he was going to get caught on camera.

Your response may have an inkling of credibility if this was a single officer and victim being caught on camera not in a public place; but it wasn't. Do you really belive that he intentionaly killed someone in front of a loaded bart train surrounded by that many bystandards? Police officers these days are fully aware that nearly everyone has a camera phone. See this for what it is, a disturbingly horrible accident which now carries very deep racial undertones.

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