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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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Son, let us say that I am not as OBSERVANT as I should be BUT that does not mean that I teach the simple like you to do wrong.
So you think you SHOULD be offering the wave offering, but choose not to?

What criteria or standards do you use to prioritize what you choose to follow first? How do you reconcile that with the directive not to add or subtract?

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Su-ck me.
Who would that help more?

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Who would that help more?
Shamma, the old hag, benefiting from Hugh's experienced mouth-work. LOL.
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Though I'm not particularly learned enough in the topic to participate in your discussion, I just wanted to share a link on Chassidic Judaism if anyone is interested. As you may know, the Baal Shem Tov was the founder of the movement, and this site has a lot of useful information on him. It also sells books on his teachings, if anybody is interested in Jewish mysticism or the Baal Shem Tov himself.

Here is the website: www.baalshemtov.com

Enjoy!

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NONSENSE

The Baal Shem Tov taught: Whatever a person sees or hears contains a lesson in Divine service. This is the gist of Divine service: to realize how to serve G-d in all things.(HaYom Yom, p. 52, cited in Kesser Shem Tov, Hosafos, 128).

JOEL: Stale and Childish nonsense. Expected.

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You are SUCH a grump.

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Service is an act of practicality and inculcates humility but it is very important to serve the right person, right cause or right typal being, otherwise one's efforts come to nought and besides one gets damaged in the process and if one is dealing with an adverse typal being, then, well, the dangers are immense.

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Most of humanity is possessed in some way or the other and it is this possession in varying degrees brought on by the adverse beings that turns possessed people into obdurate, desensitized, bigoted, nonthinking and cruel subhuman types. The actual Truth is very different and is not what the scriptures and most people imagine it to be. Above all, remember, Truth has to be directly experienced to the extent one is capable of doing so and manifested in life.

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Most of us who've forged strong online alliances or who're naturally attracted to each other have met in some previous life or the other. There's a subtle causation in consciousness even where relationships are concerned.
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HUGH,

Here's something that will interest you -

In the wild, big predators like the lion, tiger, leopard, cheetah and hyena usually stay away from the honey badger since the honey badger is an aggressive little fella and is known to bite off the testicles of the animal who attacks it leaving the poor predator ball-less.

I hope your boy friend bites off your big black balls.

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Where's that minim, Hugh? LOL.
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HELP EVER, HURT NEVER:

Always try and ease the path of others by consoling them in times of grief, soothing away their fears, giving them hope, speaking words of encouragement, offering material help if needed, showing them ways to maximize their inborn potential, wishing them on their special days, giving words of advice if asked and by just being around if they feel the need to turn to you. Please keep nonsensical religious prejudices, stupid scriptural beliefs and petty tribal affiliations out of this life-building exercise and desist from proselytizing. Instead, use logic, compassion, humor, anecdotes, one's own life experiences,.compatible marriage, scientific findings, secular wisdom traditions, herbs, rejuvenating diet, therapeutic massage, nature walks, simple meditation techniques, relaxing breathing techniques and easy free hand exercises to de-stress oneself and to help others do the same.

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Christian Louboutin.
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FEMALE CIRCUMCISION

Female genital mutilation (FGM), the excision of the clitoris practised widely in African and many Muslim countries, is a means for men to maintain control of women and must be eradicated, U.N. human rights chief Navi Pillay said on Monday. "FGM is a form of gender-based discrimination and violence. It is a violation of the right (of women and girls) to physical and mental integrity," Pillay told a gathering on the issue at the world body's Human Rights Council.

JOEL: How about condemning the barbaric pagan practice of male circumcision?
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JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Service is an act of practicality and inculcates humility but it is very important to serve the right person, right cause or right typal being, otherwise one's efforts come to nought and besides one gets damaged in the process and if one is dealing with an adverse typal being, then, well, the dangers are immense.
I dont know where you get your notions of what it means "to serve", but I suspect it is from from Hindu cultural influence.

In Judaism, the concept in Hebrew is avodah, and in post-biblical application, it is different from your notions. The Bal Shem Tov was an avowed pantheist so obviously he did not mean "serving" a typal entity or cause in the way you suggest. His preferred method of avodah was basically the practice of loving-kindness (hesed) which, by definition, should be impossible for anyone other than most profoundly psychopathic, to find fault with.

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in post-biblical application, it is different from your notions.
Pure religious teachings lie in its authentic scripture which in this case under consideration happens to be the Bible.

A religion or a cult should be judged by the contents found in its authentic scripture and not on the basis of later day modifications much after the founders of the faith have passed away.

Later day reforms are add ons and find no sanction in scripture.

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The Bal Shem Tov was an avowed pantheist so obviously he did not mean "serving" a typal entity or cause in the way you suggest.
Really?

Then why did this brain-dead idiot, Baal Shem Tov, refer to G-d as seen below in the teaching attaributed to him?

The Baal Shem Tov taught:

"Whatever a person sees or hears contains a lesson in Divine service. This is the gist of Divine service: to realize how to serve G-d in all things."

(HaYom Yom, p. 52, cited in Kesser Shem Tov, Hosafos, 128).

So, if the Baal Shem Tov was a pantheist, he should not have referred to a typal being called G-d and should have instead spoken only of nature forces.

LMAO

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The Bible is based on the teachings of a false G-d and its contents are evidently based on evil and falsehood.

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I am sitting down for a late lunch. Bye.

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Really?
Then why did this brain-dead idiot, Baal Shem Tov, refer to G-d as seen below in the teaching attaributed to him?
The Baal Shem Tov taught:
"Whatever a person sees or hears contains a lesson in Divine service. This is the gist of Divine service: to realize how to serve G-d in all things."
(HaYom Yom, p. 52, cited in Kesser Shem Tov, Hosafos, 128).
So, if the Baal Shem Tov was a pantheist, he should not have referred to a typal being called G-d and should have instead spoken only of nature forces.
LMAO
ignoring your immature usage of language to denigrate others....

the answer to your query is simple - we are creatures of language - we have to objectify in order to provide a source of focus. But if you bothered to explore his "theo"logy in any detail you would note his emphasis. The problem with you is that you do not. You take pot shots. That only makes you look foolish, it doesnt add anything to the conversation.

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