Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 72039 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71647 Apr 15, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Yep, the guy hated Jews, but managed to kill 2 Christians (and 1 Jew).
Dove is one of the few (or perhaps the only) mass produced American brands of chocolate that I like.
We already colored our egg (turns out egg coloring is also a sephardic Jewish custom)
Former---The NEWS says they are STILL "gathering information" on whether this is HATE crime.

Frijoles---Yep, the guy HATED Jews, but managed to kill 2 Christians (and 1 Jew).

HughBe---- Clearly based on your words and that of Former you have GATHERED more information than the police. Share the information with them and with us.

Also, the person killed 2 Christians and 1 Jew and based on that in your mind he HATES Jews but has NO hate for Christians?

Was the Jew a Christian and if yes that would make it 3 Christians.

Was the Jew a Buddhist or a secular person?

If the Jew was secular then based on your argument the person killed the Jew because of his RACE and not religious affiliation to Judaism or otherwise.

Finally, share your typically intelligent reason for NOT ascribing hate to the person for killing the 2 Christians. Were the Christians white, brown, black or what?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71648 Apr 15, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
How's you husband?
Remember that at age 4 I was fully aroused when my maid was massaging me and a few days ago I got a hard-on looking at the Israeli supermodel's Bar Rafaeli's exposed breasts.
So, if I ever decide to shake off my virginal status in future, I'll face no problem with man-woman sex and besides my inexperience won't be a barrier for long since I'm a quick learner.
Bye, have to go.
Take care.
Frijoles---When was the last time you had that type of sex? Would you even know how to start?

Joel---Remember that at age 4 I was fully aroused when my maid was massaging me and a few days ago I got a hard-on looking at the Israeli supermodel's Bar Rafaeli's exposed breasts.

Hugh--- dear Frijoles cannot relate to your experiences, remember these things.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71649 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Brilliant.
If gays are abnormal because they do not procreate, the same could be said of perpetual virgins.
And Joel said it himself.
STEFANO COLONNA --....Second, you said " if they ever decide to shake off their virginal status" but if they don't, then you can put gays and virgins in the same category you called abnormal......

Former---Brilliant. If gays are abnormal because they do not procreate, the same could be said of perpetual virgins. And Joel said it himself.

HughBe--- As I understand it BABIES and prepubescent boys and girls would qualify to be ABNORMAL as they are "perpetual" virgins. I find the level of thinking to be particularly low.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71650 Apr 15, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Gays are abnormal because, even if they try their best, they CANNOT procreate through man-woman sexual intercourse. LOL.
I disagree that they cannot procreate via man-woman intercourse. Their problem is that they will not indulge in such intercourse because they deem it repulsive and nauseating.

What they cannot do is to BREED each other.

What is America doing about RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION in other countries starting with their CLOSE allies?

I look forward to SANCTIONS for any American Ally that has RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION or that lacks true RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Put it this way America should SANCTION any ally where someone cannot join ANY religion of choice without being jailed.

The US is doing a good job for HOMOSEXUALS what about a PILLAR of the American State i.e. FREEDOM of RELIGION.

Why not America?

HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71651 Apr 15, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
HUGH,
How often in a week do you make out with that thick-lipped frump who you call your wife?
Any preferred position?
How often in a week do you jerk off?
How often in a week do you enjoy a roll in bed with your boy friend?
(smiles)
doggy
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71652 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
STEFANO COLONNA --....Second, you said " if they ever decide to shake off their virginal status" but if they don't, then you can put gays and virgins in the same category you called abnormal......
Former---Brilliant. If gays are abnormal because they do not procreate, the same could be said of perpetual virgins. And Joel said it himself.
HughBe--- As I understand it BABIES and prepubescent boys and girls would qualify to be ABNORMAL as they are "perpetual" virgins. I find the level of thinking to be particularly low.
I agree, Huggybear.

And please recall that this was Joel's logic, not mine.

Also please note that babies and preteens are not "perpetual" virgins, only temporary ones, unlike Joel. He is a permanent one and I suspect not of his own choosing.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71653 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree that they cannot procreate via man-woman intercourse. Their problem is that they will not indulge in such intercourse because they deem it repulsive and nauseating.
What they cannot do is to BREED each other.
What is America doing about RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION in other countries starting with their CLOSE allies?
I look forward to SANCTIONS for any American Ally that has RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION or that lacks true RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Put it this way America should SANCTION any ally where someone cannot join ANY religion of choice without being jailed.
The US is doing a good job for HOMOSEXUALS what about a PILLAR of the American State i.e. FREEDOM of RELIGION.
Why not America?
We appreciate your support.

Now move along and help someone else.

:))
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71654 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, Huggybear.
And please recall that this was Joel's logic, not mine.
Also please note that babies and preteens are not "perpetual" virgins, only temporary ones, unlike Joel. He is a permanent one and I suspect not of his own choosing.
Former---Brilliant. If gays are abnormal because they do not procreate, the same could be said of perpetual virgins. And Joel said it himself.

HughBe--- As I understand it BABIES and prepubescent boys and girls would qualify to be ABNORMAL as they are "perpetual" virgins. I find the level of thinking to be particularly low.

Former---I agree, Huggybear.

HughBe--- Are you sure?

Former---Also please note that babies and preteens are not "perpetual" virgins, only temporary ones, unlike Joel.

HughBe---- As I understand it BABIES and the prepubescent are perpetual virgins over here, in Jamaica, but I accept that in America it is not so.

Former--- He is a permanent one and I suspect not of his own choosing.

HughBe--- That makes him pure meaning undefiled, is that bad? Did you neuter him?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71655 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
We appreciate your support.
Now move along and help someone else.
:))
1. I do NOT support double standards. If America is championing FREEDOM then do it consistently and in ALL areas. You cannot FORCE people to make laws supporting one thing and not do the same for a FUNDAMENTAL thing as RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. No one should be jailed because s/he converts to another religion as is the case in Israel.



2. Reread and study what comes next..

What is America doing about RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION in other countries starting with their CLOSE allies?

I look forward to SANCTIONS for any American Ally that has RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION or that lacks true RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Put it this way America should SANCTION any ally where someone cannot join ANY religion of choice without being jailed.

The US is doing a good job for HOMOSEXUALS what about a PILLAR of the American State i.e. FREEDOM of RELIGION.

Why not America?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71656 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
We appreciate your support.
Now move along and help someone else.
:))
HughBe---The US is doing a good job for HOMOSEXUALS what about a PILLAR of the American State i.e. FREEDOM of RELIGION.
Why not America?

Former---We appreciate your support.

HughBe--- I did not acknowledge your focus and so let me do so now. Your community has my support as far as not being charged as criminals for playing in each others waste matter. In other words leave you alone to work your iniquity.

However, I do not support the corruption of the concept of marriage and I do not support the nasty habit of calling others HOMOPHOBIC when there is no FEAR or hate for your community.

The act remains an ABOMINATION to God and He confirmed this when I last spoke to Him. However, the world is not a godly place so let your community be itself and let the righteous be righteous.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71657 Apr 15, 2014
later
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71658 Apr 15, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>I normally file mine on Oct. 15th at 2 minutes to midnight
Are you the Eric that I once had a pleasurable relationship with for a number of years or are you still the more recent possessed Eric?

I welcome back the Eric of old.
Eric

Des Plaines, IL

#71659 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you the Eric that I once had a pleasurable relationship with for a number of years or are you still the more recent possessed Eric?
I welcome back the Eric of old.
Took a break because I couldn't stand the demeaning banter. With tax season ending, I thought I'd see whether things had gotten any better. From your post, I guess not. Another unprovoked personal attack.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71660 Apr 15, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Took a break because I couldn't stand the demeaning banter. With tax season ending, I thought I'd see whether things had gotten any better. From your post, I guess not. Another unprovoked personal attack.
HughBe---Are you the Eric that I once had a pleasurable relationship with for a number of years OR are you still the more recent possessed Eric?

I welcome back the Eric of old.

Eric---Took a break because I couldn't stand the demeaning banter. With tax season ending, I thought I'd see whether things had gotten any better. From your post, I guess not. Another unprovoked personal attack.

HughBe---As you have said things have not gotten any better,with you, and I say what a pity as I had extended a warm welcome to the Eric of yesteryear.

Here is a secret, in my world asking the type of question that I asked above is not deemed a personal attack but I accept that in your world it is. So let me explain how WE think.

We do not take the memory of pleasurable relationships as PERSONAL attacks. In fact it is quite the oppose for US but clearly not for you.

Please reread my words below and at least make an attempt to relate to them on an intellectual level as clearly you cannot relate to them experientially.

Here they are again---Are you the Eric that I once had a pleasurable relationship with for a number of years .....? I welcome back the Eric of old.

Note, I have helped you by simplifying via omitting the last part as clearly the now omitted part had contributed to your misunderstanding and utterance.

In essence, there was no personal attack. If you still insist that there was please explain to me how that works in your world. Explain to me how my saying that I had many years of pleasurable exchanges with Eric of yesteryear and my warm welcoming of him back to the forum is a personal attack.

Go right ahead.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71661 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>.....HughBe---- As I understand it BABIES and the prepubescent are perpetual virgins over here, in Jamaica, but I accept that in America it is not so.....
Correct.

In America it is expected they will grow up and go forth and recreate and perhaps even procreate one day.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71662 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>.....What is America doing about RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION in other countries starting with their CLOSE allies?....
Have we disappointed you?

Did you have any particular ally in mind?

Why not just say so?

Do think the US is so exemplary on human rights that we are in position to lecture others?

I don't.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71663 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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However, I do not support the corruption of the concept of marriage and I do not support the nasty habit of calling others HOMOPHOBIC when there is no FEAR or hate for your community.
You discriminate against gays. Hence you are homophobic. The end.

Definition of HOMOPHOBIA

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
The act remains an ABOMINATION to God and He confirmed this when I last spoke to Him. However, the world is not a godly place so let your community be itself and let the righteous be righteous
If you believe your god spoke to you then you have voices in your head and need to see a head shrinker/psychiatrist.

You have yet to show me one shred of evidence that your so-called scriptures were written or dictated by god.

All smoke and mirrors so far.

Please prove me wrong. I dare you.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71664 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct.
In America it is expected they will grow up and go forth and recreate and perhaps even procreate one day.
HughBe---- As I understand it BABIES and the prepubescent are perpetual virgins over here, in Jamaica, but I accept that in America it is not so.....

Former---Correct.

HughBe---Are you really saying that in America BABIES are not virgins?:D

Recall, you said CORRECT.

Former---In America it is expected they will grow up and go forth and recreate and perhaps even procreate one day.

HughBe--- What will they be recreating? Here in tree-dwelling land the vast majority will grow up and procreate and when that happens they are no longer BABIES, prepubescent and VIRGINS.

Keep in mind that I said that BABIES and prepubescent are perpetual VIRGINS, in Jamaica. When these people reach the age of maturity WE do not call them BABIES. However, while they are yet babies and prepubescent they remain PERPETUAL virgins, here.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71665 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Have we disappointed you?
Did you have any particular ally in mind?
Why not just say so?
Do think the US is so exemplary on human rights that we are in position to lecture others?
I don't.
1. Why the material does not the US leave Uganda alone and STOP the SANCTIONS because of its laws on homosexuality.

2.Do you listen to the news over there?

3. I gave an example of one ally in one of my posts.

4. The US does not disappoint me because I have learnt about it from its own media and I do not expect neither morality, nor justice nor truth from it.
Eric

Des Plaines, IL

#71667 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Please reread my words below and at least make an attempt to relate to them on an intellectual level as clearly you cannot relate to them experientially.
Here they are again---Are you the Eric that I once had a pleasurable relationship with for a number of years .....? I welcome back the Eric of old.
Note, I have helped you by simplifying via omitting the last part as clearly the now omitted part had contributed to your misunderstanding and utterance.
In essence, there was no personal attack. If you still insist that there was please explain to me how that works in your world. Explain to me how my saying that I had many years of pleasurable exchanges with Eric of yesteryear and my warm welcoming of him back to the forum is a personal attack.
Go right ahead.
HMMMM, you eliminate the offending words and then you ask where is the offense.

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