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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69806 Mar 19, 2014
former res wrote:
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Yes, whenever someone I know is feeling isolated, lonely, anxious, ill at ease, awkward and disconnected, I always recommend they study more math.
Chuckle!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69807 Mar 19, 2014
former res wrote:
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........and I see you are unable to comprehend sarcasm along with so many other concepts.........you rarely disappoint me with your new levels of cluelessness........keep up the good work.......I can't wait for the next one!
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I believe your previous comment about math WAS sarcasm

(in case anyone needs help discerning this)

Since: Feb 13

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#69808 Mar 19, 2014
-Sprocket- wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for ur wisdom. I always thought god was a woman..
There are a lot of scriptures in the OT that identify God as a woman. Where the scriptures differentiate between male and female, they affirm the feminine. That's why God wouldn't tell her name when asked by Moses. If we had known the name of God, we would know she is a woman and God wanted the world to believe she is a man. If we had known the truth, Israel would've been weakened by it.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#69810 Mar 19, 2014
RABBEE: since plasma phase can be defined as an in between state of energy and matter.

JOEL: LOL.

So, this ruach is the electrically neutral plasma - the 4th state of matter?

In your view, life arose from plasma?

How is that possible?

If plasma gives rise to life then wouldn't it be possible to create life in the lab from plasma?

But all attempts to create life in the lab from scratch and to revive the dead using electrochemical means have failed.

Why even if you take a well formed/a well preserved brain and try to activate it using electrical/ionic inputs nothing happens despite all theories reducing sentience to electromagnetic or to electrochemical activity.

The Yogis say that energy itself is conscious and that this consciousness that inheres in energy expresses itself in greater and in still greater degrees as matter gets more and more organized. This mystical view is reasonable but it doesn't explain the process of how energy is conscious.

So, the question of sentience remains unsolved.

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#69811 Mar 19, 2014
JOEL wrote:
RABBEE: since plasma phase can be defined as an in between state of energy and matter.
JOEL: LOL.
So, this ruach is the electrically neutral plasma - the 4th state of matter?
In your view, life arose from plasma?
How is that possible?
If plasma gives rise to life then wouldn't it be possible to create life in the lab from plasma?
But all attempts to create life in the lab from scratch and to revive the dead using electrochemical means have failed.
Why even if you take a well formed/a well preserved brain and try to activate it using electrical/ionic inputs nothing happens despite all theories reducing sentience to electromagnetic or to electrochemical activity.
The Yogis say that energy itself is conscious and that this consciousness that inheres in energy expresses itself in greater and in still greater degrees as matter gets more and more organized. This mystical view is reasonable but it doesn't explain the process of how energy is conscious.
So, the question of sentience remains unsolved.
rabbee: no! because we are not both talking, about the same kind of plasma here. your talking about, a bubble energy plasma only. which does not have the correct, adherence properties to maintain it's shape for any length of time. the soup type of plasma, is totally different than an energy plasma. and energy plasma is energy, it is not at the balance state in between energy and matter and is not electrochemical or electromagnetic which the soup plasma has control over. just like the plasma in a black hole, is totally different than the plasma you are speaking of.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69812 Mar 19, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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which the soup plasma has control over. just like the plasma in a black hole, is totally different than the plasma you are speaking of.
Is the plasma that you're referring to the quark-gluon plasma - the 5th state of matter?

That does not explain sentience either.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69813 Mar 20, 2014
OBIT: A LITERARY GIANT PASSES AWAY

Noted author Khushwant Singh passed away Thursday of old age complications. He was 99.

Khushwant Singh was born on February 2, 1915. An Indo-Anglian novelist, Singh was best known for his trenchant secularism,his humor, and an abiding love of poetry.

He was educated at Modern School, New Delhi, Government College, Lahore, St. Stephen's College in Delhi and King's College London, before reading for the Bar at the Inner Temple.

I am saddened.

I read some of his great essays in Middle School and got hooked to his style of writing and candid observations on the various facets of life. I regularly read his weekly column till last year in a number of English language national dailies.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69814 Mar 20, 2014
former res wrote:
This makes a lot of sense to me:
A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet
By Chris Goodfellow
03.18.14
6:30 AM
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-el...
Interesting, but I still lean towards space aliens.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69815 Mar 20, 2014
NEW DELHI & THE PULITZER PRIZE:

I am saddened by the demise of Khushwant Singh.

Khushwant Singh's writings brought in a balanced perspective from a secularist's point of view. He was a prolific writer - articulate, lucid, humorous and humane.

New Delhi is home to some of the very best and its opposite.

New Delhi - a great city.

Another literary great of some sort from New Delhi who was in the news in 2011 is Dr Siddhartha Mukherjee who won the 2011 Pulitzer Prize for his book "The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer" detailing the evolution of diagnosis and treatment of human cancers from ancient Egypt to the latest developments in chemotherapy and targeted therapy.

He is an oncologist by training and serves as assistant Prof of Medicine at Columbia University.

Siddhartha Mukherjee studied up to class 12 (ISC in science) at New Delhi's famous St Columba's School.

Incidentally, world renowned New Ager, author and holistic medicine healer, Dr Deepak Chopra, is also an alum of New Delhi's St Columba's School.

Gita Anand, whose parents hailed from New Delhi, who schooled at Mumbai's elite Cathedral & John Connon School, shared the 2003 Pulitzer Prize for explanatory reporting that was awarded to the Wall Street Journal staff.

Gita Anand is the author of the book The Cure which has been adapted into the film, Extraordinary Measures.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69816 Mar 20, 2014
Salman Rushdie, the globally famous controversial author on whose head is placed a fatwa for allegedly insulting the prophet of Islam, studied at Cathedral School in Mumbai. Rushdie writes brilliantly.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69818 Mar 20, 2014
My skin is crawling as if it were not my own; I am feeling anxious and on-edge; I feel there is an unknown presence near me.

I think I will go to the mall, look at some poor people (and allow them to drink me in as well), then come home and do some math problems.

Then I may call a witch doctor. And have some carrot juice.

The only things that comfort me are my good looks, fine clothes, and wealth.

I feel sorry for the rest of you.

Since: May 12

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#69819 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
I am feeling worse lying down. The fever has increased and my nerves are beginning to shake. I am going shopping.
That makes lots of sense.

And if you have a bronchopneumonia where would you go, to ski?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69820 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe---Tell me, was Christianity spread from the West?

Read the quote below and share your views on it.
"Western culture itself was significantly DEVELOPED through the emergence of CHRISTIANITY as it was introduced in the Roman Empire in the late 4th century and evolved in the course of the European Middle Ages, and the term "Christendom" largely indicates this intertwined history.

Aegege---I have no clue where you have taken that quote from.
But Christianity hasn't brougt anyting posive into Europe - Christianity has killed mio's of people of scientists, pagans and people who knew how to think for themselfs.

HughBe--- So, in your opinion Christianity has not contributed positively to Europe. Did Europeans e.g. Columbus have as their aim to Christianize the rest of the world? If yes, did they do so to a large extent and were they the beneficiaries of the conquest of many countries? Let me give you an example, did Europe benefit from Slavery a byproduct of European efforts to Christianize etc.?

Aegege---Without Christianity Europe would have probably advanced 400 years further what concerns technology and science.

HughBe---Doubt it. The wealth gained from conquest catapulted Europe and its development.

Aegege--But unfortunatly people have still respected autoritites so much that we still today have a parasitic, war mongering political class that is hindering our freedom, they are enforcing copyright laws, they do protect the immunity of coporations, they collect taxes, they go to war,
They are a big hindrance in the medical industry for more deveolopment.

HughBe--- Noted. Copyright laws are of benefit to INDIVIDUALS and companies. I see nothing wrong with such laws. Do you think that you should author a book and get nothing from the millions that is generated from its sale?

In terms of your "parasitic, war mongering political class" it is my opinion that they are being used by the class with money to further its own interest.

Finally, you did not answer this, was Christianity spread from the West?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69821 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe----I do NOT HATE homosexuals.

Frijoles----No, you only think homosexuality is an "abomination". Thats not hate, thats really love.

HughBe----- Based on your words the God of Abraham and the patriarchs HATE'S you and many of your rabbis. So I am simply following His example. Curse Him and live, Frijoles.

Lesson: "You shall not lie down with a male, as with a woman: this is an ABOMINATION." The Complete Jewish Bible.

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9...

Frijoles----I really doubt you have any Jewish blood in you either. Your notions are too far out for any relatives to tolerate.

HughBe--- You lack the capacity to THINK and to assess people. I am the most honourable and honest person that you have ever encountered and shall ever encounter. Given your ejaculation, I now challenge YOU and ALL of your HOST to bet me on the matter. I am willing to do a DNA test that is to be done by JEWS only.

Finally, I shall repeat. I believe that YOU Frijoles are at least a bisexual and I am NOT against you. However, it is my opinion that homosexuality is WRONG because of my religious beliefs and also because I deem the practice to be unhygienic which is unlike your own position on the matter.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69822 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Correct.
Nothing, as a state that is devoid of everything, is an aberration of the actual state of existence preached by dumb creationists.
This absolute nothing can not even be imagined nor defined nor experienced.
If you still feel that an absolute nothing exists, define it and give me an example drawn from nature/life of creation ex nihilo.
The 1000 g of food that you eat will always remain 1000 g though its energy/matter content gets converted into other energy/matter forms which if you add up after collecting the bits that get scattered in all directions will always total up to the the same 1000 g.
The sum total of energy/matter in isolated system will always remain unchanged at all times though the form may vary.
Ok, Mon?
We had gone over this simple question a couple of years ago on the Allah thread, if you remember.
So, your notion of creation from nothing flies out of the window into the garbage bin.
HughBe: 1000-1000=1000

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Joel---Correct.

Nothing, as a state that is devoid of everything, is an aberration of the actual state of existence preached by dumb creationists.

Hugh--- If you have ONLY a $1000 and you give the $1000 to me, I want you to be assured that you still have money.

Case closed.

Much love, Mon.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69823 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
From an indestructible something (as explained in many of my previous posts).
Hugh----Put it this way, did the forces come from nothing or did they come from something?

Joel---From an indestructible something (as explained in many of my previous posts).

Hugh---- 1. So, the higher forces that you speak of are not the highest given that they come out from something. 2. What did the indestructible something come from?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69824 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Yes, Professor of Science/CEO, I know that you're as "brilliant" as the other "geniuses" on this thread.
(smiles)
Hugh----As you see I too am brilliant.

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Joel---Yes, Professor of Science/CEO, I know that you're as "brilliant" as the other "geniuses" on this thread.

Hugh---Dear professor of "nuts" , I did not realize that you were at the same level of intelligence as those of the ilk of Frijoles.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69825 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
HUGH,
Homosexuality is a form of sexuality just as say some people are left-handed.
As far as hygiene is concerned, well, homos can always use condoms or avoid anal sex and stick to oral or whatever.
Similarly, straight men should always enter a clean vagina and wash after discharge, right?
However, from a procreative perspective, homosexuality is abnormal since it is sterile and so it cannot be a medium of procreation via sexual intercourse.
Joel---Homosexuality is a form of sexuality just as say some people are left-handed.

HughBe--- It seems that you have become a convert to the wrong way.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69826 Mar 20, 2014
former res wrote:
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Besides all of this, explain to me why a person like YOU who do NOT have Jewish ancestry is standing up for your IMAGINED persecution of Jews by me a person with JEWISH ancestry and one who is not ashamed of that ancestry.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
HughBe wrote:
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.... In addition, I am NOT against anyone because of their race or religion and that includes the race of Jews, the religion called Judaism and its members Judahists, Muslims, Irish, English, Hindus you name it.
I have seen you giving Frijoles a very hard time over his religion and its link to his ethnic heritage. Very disrespectful of him, his culture, and his beliefs.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Having said all of that, let me be clear I am against LIES and DECEPTION. So if anyone or country is guilty of either LIES or DECEPTION......
You cannot call someone a liar if they are simply telling you about their religious beliefs.
Faith is belief without proof, so you are also on the same thin ice. Or shaky ground.
HughBe wrote:
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...In addition, I do NOT HATE homosexuals. Now, with all sincerity I believe that Frijoles is at least a bisexual and the same applies to you and I am NOT against you. However, it is my opinion that homosexuality is WRONG because of my religious beliefs and also because I deem the practice to be unhygienic.
Did I say you hated gays? I called you a homophobe. Do you deny this?
You do not support their rights. You judge their behavior harshly in my view.
You say it is "my opinion" that homosexuality is "wrong." But then you say this opinion is "because of my religious beliefs." The second part negates the first part.
Your statements suggest that you are not in fact thinking for yourself but following the rules of your chosen clubhouse. Doing and thinking whatever they tell you.
Also many straight people engage in anal sex and it could be argued that sex itself, kissing, and any human contact transfers microbes from person to person. All very "unhygienic."
HughBe---explain to me why a person like YOU who do NOT have Jewish ancestry is standing up for your IMAGINED persecution of Jews by me a person with JEWISH ancestry and one who is not ashamed of that ancestry.

Former---First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

HughBe--- Son, do you understand what you wrote? NO.

Let me explain your words above, YOU are not Jewish and so YOU would be a part of those going for the Jews. Think about it, please. Take weeks if necessary.

Scenario, you are in a room with your grandmother, grandfather, uncles, aunts, cousins and other relatives. Now, someone has something against the family and wants to kill the entire family. Do you FEEL that you would escape being killed?

Now son, I have ALL of the above Jewish relatives BUT I am NOT a Jew. Question, do you FEEL that in such a scenario I would escape being killed?

Finally, you speak like a flocing ass.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69827 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Hugh--- If you have ONLY a $1000 and you give the $1000 to me, I want you to be assured that you still have money.
The $ 1000 is now with the other person. It has not become nothing.

Matter from one place can be pushed to another place and its mass still remains intact even though its location and form may have undergone a change.

Understand?

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