Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Voluntarist

United States

#53030 May 22, 2013
Global warming debunked: NASA
report verifies carbon dioxide
actually cools atmosphere
5/22/2013

Practically everything you have
been told by the mainstream scientific
community and the media about the alleged
detriments of greenhouse gases, and
particularly carbon dioxide, appears to be
false, according to new data compiled by
NASA's Langley Research Center. As it turns
out, all those atmospheric greenhouse gases
that Al Gore and all the other global warming
hoaxers have long claimed are overheating
and destroying our planet are actually cooling
it, based on the latest evidence.
As reported by Principia Scientific
International (PSI), Martin Mlynczak and his
colleagues over at NASA tracked infrared
emissions from the earth's upper atmosphere
during and following a recent solar storm that
took place between March 8-10. What they
found was that the vast majority of energy
released from the sun during this immense
coronal mass ejection (CME) was reflected
back up into space rather than deposited into
earth's lower atmosphere.
The result was an overall cooling effect that
completely contradicts claims made by
NASA's own climatology division that
greenhouse gases are a cause of global
warming. As illustrated by data collected
using Sounding of the Atmosphere using
Broadband Emission Radiometry (SABER),
both carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide
(NO), which are abundant in the earth's upper
atmosphere, greenhouse gases reflect heating
energy rather than absorb it.
"Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural
thermostats," says James Russell from
Hampton University , who was one of the lead
investigators for the groundbreaking SABER
study. "When the upper atmosphere (or
'thermosphere') heats up, these molecules try
as hard as they can to shed that heat back
into space."
Almost all 'heating' radiation
generated by sun is blocked
from entering lower
atmosphere by CO2
According to the data, up to 95 percent of
solar radiation is literally bounced back into
space by both CO2 and NO in the upper
atmosphere. Without these necessary
elements, in other words, the earth would be
capable of absorbing potentially devastating
amounts of solar energy that would truly melt
the polar ice caps and destroy the planet.
"The shock revelation starkly contradicts the
core proposition of the so-called greenhouse
gas theory which claims that more CO2
means more warming for our planet," write H.
Schreuder and J. O'Sullivan for PSI. "[T]his
compelling new NASA data disproves that
notion and is a huge embarrassment for
NASA's chief climatologist, Dr. James Hansen
and his team over at NASA's GISS."
Dr. Hansen, of course, is an outspoken global
warming activist who helped spark man-made
climate change hysteria in the U.S. back in
1988. Just after the release of the new SABER
study, however, Dr. Hansen conveniently
retired from his career as a climatologist at
NASA, and reportedly now plans to spend his
time "on science," and on "drawing attention
to [its] implications for young people."

http://m.naturalnews.com/news/040448_solar_ra...
Voluntarist

United States

#53031 May 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah - You didnt do anything wrong. That IS the expression - I was just pointing out how it really makes no sense
Washing meat is not complete. There are some really nasty stuff that needs to get quashed closer to the supply chain for eradication to be effective.
Furthermore, washing meat does not promote preventative actions on behalf of the suppliers, which is 100 times more efficient.
So do you wash your meat or have blind faith in government?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53032 May 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
its not you, its me
chuckle
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53033 May 22, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
Global warming debunked: NASA
report verifies carbon dioxide
actually cools atmosphere
5/22/2013
Practically everything you have
been told by the mainstream scientific
community and the media about the alleged
detriments of greenhouse gases, and
particularly carbon dioxide, appears to be
false, according to new data compiled by
NASA's Langley Research Center.... http://m.naturalnews.com/news/040448_solar_ra...
NaturalNews (formerly Newstarget) is a website dedicated to alternative medicine and various conspiracy theories, such as chemtrails,[1] the alleged dangers of fluoride in drinking water (as well as that of MSG and aspartame) and alleged health problems caused by "toxic" ingredients in vaccines, including the now-discredited link to autism.[citation needed]

It features guest authors such as Joseph Mercola and antivaccinationist Jon Rappoport, has featured interviews with Russell Blaylock, Sandor Katz and others. It defends Andrew Wakefield's fraudulent 1998 study linking autism to vaccinations and is also outspoken against gun control, TSA screening procedures, GMOs, and claims that CT scans and mammograms cause cancer. It claims that mercury fillings are dangerous and need to be removed, and defends Scientology, but its primary purpose is the promotion of alternative medicine and (often controversial) nutrition claims.

Shawn Lawrence Otto mentions the site - specifically its discussion of the Vioxx controversy — in his list of references in his book Fool Me Twice, and New York Times reporter Christopher Kelly has mentioned Adams' endorsement of Jim Marrs' books.[2]

An article about conspiracy theories about the 2012 Aurora shooting in the Los Angeles Times mentioned an article on NaturalNews outlining such a conspiracy theory.[3]

Criticism [edit]

Among its most outspoken critics are "Orac" of ScienceBlogs,[9] who has called it "one of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet," as well as Peter Bowditch of the website Ratbags,[10] and Jeff McMahon writing for Forbes.[11] Steven Novella has called NaturalNews "a crank alt med site that promotes every sort of medical nonsense imaginable. If it is unscientific, antiscientific, conspiracy-mongering, or downright silly, Mike Adams appears to be all for it – whatever sells the “natural” products he hawks on his site.".[12] Other critics of Adams' website include astronomer and blogger Phil Plait,[13] PZ Myers,[14] and Brian Dunning, who listed it as #1 on his "Top 10 Worst Anti-Science Websites" list.[15] Adams is listed as a "promoter of questionable methods" by Quackwatch[16] Robert T. Carroll at The Skeptic's Dictionary has said, "Natural News is not a very good source for information. If you don't trust me on this, go to Respectful Insolence or any of the other bloggers on ScienceBlogs and do a search for "Natural News" or "Mike Adams" (who is NaturalNews). Hundreds of entries will be found and not one of them will have a good word to say about Mike Adams as a source."[17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaturalNews

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53034 May 22, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
So do you wash your meat or have blind faith in government?
Government has no place in the bedroom.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53035 May 22, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't trust me on this, go to Respectful Insolence or any of the other bloggers on ScienceBlogs and do a search for "Natural News" or "Mike Adams" (who is NaturalNews). Hundreds of entries will be found and not one of them will have a good word to say about Mike Adams as a source."[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaturalNews
Shocked, shocked, shocked!
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53036 May 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Where the dunces? ROFL.
Not sure.

It says "Location Hidden" for you.
Voluntarist

United States

#53037 May 22, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Some of us support our system of gov't.
Even though I never voted for GW Bush, didn't support his wars, thought he and Cheney, Rumsfeld were probably war criminals - I never doubted the legitimacy of his presidency.(Supreme Court decision aside.)
I never questioned his religion or his country of origin ether. Or whether he has loyal, patriotic American.
Unlike those here who hate President Blackenstien (credit to Bill Maher) personally mostly because he's black, IMO.
W was our duly elected president and he represented us all at home and around the world. Idiot that he was and is.
Obama is a war criminal as well.
Voluntarist

United States

#53038 May 22, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
NaturalNews (formerly Newstarget) is a website dedicated to alternative medicine and various conspiracy theories, such as chemtrails,[1] the alleged dangers of fluoride in drinking water (as well as that of MSG and aspartame) and alleged health problems caused by "toxic" ingredients in vaccines, including the now-discredited link to autism.[citation needed]
It features guest authors such as Joseph Mercola and antivaccinationist Jon Rappoport, has featured interviews with Russell Blaylock, Sandor Katz and others. It defends Andrew Wakefield's fraudulent 1998 study linking autism to vaccinations and is also outspoken against gun control, TSA screening procedures, GMOs, and claims that CT scans and mammograms cause cancer. It claims that mercury fillings are dangerous and need to be removed, and defends Scientology, but its primary purpose is the promotion of alternative medicine and (often controversial) nutrition claims.
Shawn Lawrence Otto mentions the site - specifically its discussion of the Vioxx controversy — in his list of references in his book Fool Me Twice, and New York Times reporter Christopher Kelly has mentioned Adams' endorsement of Jim Marrs' books.[2]
An article about conspiracy theories about the 2012 Aurora shooting in the Los Angeles Times mentioned an article on NaturalNews outlining such a conspiracy theory.[3]
Criticism [edit]
Among its most outspoken critics are "Orac" of ScienceBlogs,[9] who has called it "one of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet," as well as Peter Bowditch of the website Ratbags,[10] and Jeff McMahon writing for Forbes.[11] Steven Novella has called NaturalNews "a crank alt med site that promotes every sort of medical nonsense imaginable. If it is unscientific, antiscientific, conspiracy-mongering, or downright silly, Mike Adams appears to be all for it – whatever sells the “natural” products he hawks on his site.".[12] Other critics of Adams' website include astronomer and blogger Phil Plait,[13] PZ Myers,[14] and Brian Dunning, who listed it as #1 on his "Top 10 Worst Anti-Science Websites" list.[15] Adams is listed as a "promoter of questionable methods" by Quackwatch[16] Robert T. Carroll at The Skeptic's Dictionary has said, "Natural News is not a very good source for information. If you don't trust me on this, go to Respectful Insolence or any of the other bloggers on ScienceBlogs and do a search for "Natural News" or "Mike Adams" (who is NaturalNews). Hundreds of entries will be found and not one of them will have a good word to say about Mike Adams as a source."[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaturalNews
Yes because we all know that aspartame, gmo and msg is good for you.

SOUNDS LIKE SCIENCE FICTION...OR SOME CONSPIRACY THEORY...BUT
IT ISN'T.
Have you wondered where these terms 'sustainability' and 'smart growth'
and 'high density urban mixed use development' came from?
Doesn't it seem like about 10 years ago you'd never heard of them and
now everything seems to include these concepts? Is that just a
coincidence? That every town and county and state and nation in the
world would be changing their land use/planning codes and government
policies to align themselves with...what?
Click here for more: http://www.de mocratsagainst...

http://m.youtube.com/watch...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53039 May 22, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is a war criminal as well.
How can he be a criminal if you do not accept the legitimacy of our system of law?
Voluntarist

United States

#53040 May 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Shocked, shocked, shocked!
Attack the memessenger.
Voluntarist

United States

#53041 May 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
No I dont think the government controls the weather. Hell, they cant even fund the NWS properly to PREDICT the weather.
Alex Jones talks about technology to enhance storms and the ability to weaken storms.

http://www.google.com/url...
Voluntarist

United States

#53042 May 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
How can he be a criminal if you do not accept the legitimacy of our system of law?
He is a war criminal aka international law.
Voluntarist

United States

#53043 May 22, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Alex Jones talks about technology to enhance storms and the ability to weaken storms.
http://www.google.com/url...
The US Air Force 2025 think-tank
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53044 May 22, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Attack the memessenger.
The quality of your sources reflects you
muddled thinking.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53045 May 22, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
He is a war criminal aka international law.
You accept international law.

How about the UN?

World Bank etc. Int'l Monetary Fund?

BTW - how did our President break the law? by finally getting UBL?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53046 May 22, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Alex Jones talks about technology to enhance storms and the ability to weaken storms.
http://www.google.com/url...
enhance and weaken

Hmmmmm...doesnt sound like control to me

con·trolled, con·trol·ling, con·trols
1. To exercise authoritative or dominating influence over; direct. See Synonyms at conduct.
2. To adjust to a requirement; regulate: controlled trading on the stock market; controls the flow of water.
3. To hold in restraint; check: struggled to control my temper.

So cloud seeding is a government plot? Keep that darn Gobernmint outta my clouds!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53047 May 22, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
You accept international law.
How about the UN?
World Bank etc. Int'l Monetary Fund?
BTW - how did our President break the law? by finally getting UBL?
Good catch.

I look forward to acceptance of Agenda21 by ATF as well.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53048 May 22, 2013
Why Toothpaste Makes Orange Juice Taste Bad

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/05/2...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53049 May 22, 2013
HughBe--- The Holy Spirit is not a Being it is the POWER of God.
"And the Spirit(POWER) of God moved upon the face of the waters"

Former---I understand that this is your belief.

HughBe--- Good for you. Explain the meaning of "Spirit of God moved..." Is that the same as saying, God moved? What is the difference? What is the meaning of the word OF?

HughBE-- I am the TRUE witness of what is in the scriptures.

Former--Again, this is your personal faith.

HughBe--- Really? what I say can be found in the scriptures and UNDERSTOOD with very basic comprehension skills.

Former--Faith is defined as "belief without evidence."

HughBe--- opinion noted. Scriptures say otherwise. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

Former--You would be better off not commenting on the beliefs that others hold just as dearly as you hold your own.

HughBe--- How would I be better off?

Former--None of you really have a leg to stand in terms of reality.

HughBe--- My leg is what is WRITTEN and that can be understood by even the simple.

HughBe--- It seems that learning is not your forte. Listen well, my memory tells me that nearly 50 % of Jews are SECULAR meaning ATHEISTS etc. This means that THEY would NEVER call themselves any RELIGIOUS anything. They certainly will use the word ETHNIC. Get it?

Former---I was born Catholic and am now atheist.
FDoesn't make my parents' religion any less "legitimate."

HughBe--- You have made your choice and your current lack of religious beliefs surely does not take away from the beliefs of your parents.

However, none of this change the FACT that many Jews are ATHEISTS and AGNOSTICS and so hold no RELIGIOUS affiliation including JUDAISM. Can YOU respect their CHOICE?

The children of these JEWS will surely not be taught about any God or gods by their parents.

Can you RESPECT them and their approach without trying to FORCE a RELIGIOUS link upon them?

Former---You make no sense.

HughBe--- Wisdom is above your head.

Former---Everyone knows Jews follow Judaism.

HughBe--- You omitted IDIOT in your sentence above. Atheists don't follow Judaism etc.

Using the passage below tell me about the JUDAISM that the TRIBE of DAN followed. Dan are JEWS.

" And they called the name of the city Dan, after the name of Dan their father, who was born unto Israel: howbeit the name of the city was Laish at the first.

30 And the children of Dan set up the GRAVEN image: and Jonathan, the son of Gershom, the son of Manasseh, he and his sons were priests to the tribe of Dan until the day of the CAPTIVITY of the land." Judges 18

Former---You would deny the association between Judaism and the Jewish people? That is their traditional religion?

HughBe--- I have NEVER denied any association. What I am stating as a FACT is that Judaism does NOT make them Jews.

Former---Sure it does.

Ask anyone. Outside of your cult that is.

HughBe--- In Judges 18, was the tribe of DAN JEWS? What is the captivity that is spoken of?

How long a period did the tribe of DAN/Jews SERVE IDOLS? Is it HUNDREDS of years?

Cut your BS. Do not dodge the questions and issues DEAL with them, defender of LIES and DECEPTION.

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