Hikers rescued near Deming

Hikers rescued near Deming

There are 17 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Dec 17, 2010, titled Hikers rescued near Deming. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Four hikers clad in T-shirts and shorts were rescued early Friday morning in the Florida Mountains southeast of Deming after they underestimated changes in the weather and were stranded on a cliff.

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Just a mom

Farmington, NM

#1 Dec 18, 2010
It is amazing to me how the story in the Sun News is so different from the story of one of the men that spent the night on the side of the the mountain with these people. It just goes to show what you read in the News Papers is not always the truth.
Luck Fist

Lewisville, TX

#2 Dec 18, 2010
Just a mom wrote:
It is amazing to me how the story in the Sun News is so different from the story of one of the men that spent the night on the side of the the mountain with these people. It just goes to show what you read in the News Papers is not always the truth.
And what exactly are you objecting to? Why complain in the first place? If you are just a mom who knows (and possibly mothers) someone who was there, then why do you seem more concerned about a story as opposed to the fact that the kids are okay? Wisen up, get down on your knees, and praise God that the worst hand was not dealt instead of complaining about a story that Las Cruces Sun-News readers probably won't remember a year from now.
Just a mom 2

Deming, NM

#3 Dec 18, 2010
Just for the record...the 4 young persons should be commended for their endurance through the night under some pretty extreme conditions!!! Yes, all 4 of them made it out after sunrise safe and sound! "Rescuers got to them about 1 a.m. Friday"...this statement should be corrected because I know first hand that three of the Deming Fire Fighters got to two of the hikers between 9-10pm. The Fire Fighters spent the night on the mountain on the lower level with two of the hikers all the while maintaining verbal contact with the two stranded above them. Lets give praise to the 3 Fire Fighters that stayed with the hikers through the night; all of the other rescue personal that assisted during the early morning hours; as well as God for a successful and safe rescue!
Just a mom

Farmington, NM

#4 Dec 18, 2010
Just stating a fact that the local newpaper can not even give credit where credit is due and get the story correct. Yes I am thankful the 4 persons involved are ok and I am VERY thankful that the Firefighters that spent the night out on the side of the mountain with them are ok as they were not at all prepared to do so. The Deming firefighters are not equiped for search rescue, BUT once again Job Well done Deming firefighters.
Luck Fist

Lewisville, TX

#5 Dec 18, 2010
I understand now and I couldn't agree more. Their heroic efforts were tremendously downplayed... and that's an understatement! They deserve A LOT more credit than they were given. I've been thanking God for them all day. God will bless that rescue team far better than this newspaper could anyway. I have personally requested this of Him several times today as my sister would be left without her best friends in the world had it not been for this brave team. If you know any of them personally, give them a sincere thank you from Texas and let them know that their bravery has NOT been overlooked <3
One who was there

Deming, NM

#6 Dec 19, 2010
That was quite possible the longest, hardest, coldest, most rewarding night I have ever worked. By the time we got to the hikers they had already been stranded almost 5 hours. I would like to say though that the 2 girls on top of the rock that we could not reach are my heroes. They endured some extreme weather and it was nearly daylight before they were reached. It goes to show that you can do anything if you stay strong. I need to say thank you to my Captain and Chief for staying strong as well, and the USBP, Organ Mountain Seach and Rescue, Grant County Search and Rescue, NMSP, LCSO, and Red Cross for the support that each gave.
Liam

United States

#7 Dec 19, 2010
It was a beautiful thing to hear of this glorious rescue. Everyone assumes that first responders have a glamorous job as they swoop in to rescue people and then have a beer party with dancing girls and strippers. But it's a lot of hard work and these boys deserve a lot of credit.
ITOLDYOU

Oklahoma City, OK

#8 Dec 19, 2010
I better not hear anymore of the heart felt rescues gifted to our tax dollars! Great preperation to the hikers. At least one had a cellphone to call home to Mommy!
Anonymous

Deming, NM

#9 Dec 19, 2010
ITOLDYOU wrote:
I better not hear anymore of the heart felt rescues gifted to our tax dollars! Great preperation to the hikers. At least one had a cellphone to call home to Mommy!
Remember that if you ever need an ambulance, the fire department, or the police.
Joe

United States

#10 Dec 19, 2010
Just a mom 2 wrote:
Just for the record...the 4 young persons should be commended for their endurance through the night under some pretty extreme conditions!!! Yes, all 4 of them made it out after sunrise safe and sound! "Rescuers got to them about 1 a.m. Friday"...this statement should be corrected because I know first hand that three of the Deming Fire Fighters got to two of the hikers between 9-10pm. The Fire Fighters spent the night on the mountain on the lower level with two of the hikers all the while maintaining verbal contact with the two stranded above them. Lets give praise to the 3 Fire Fighters that stayed with the hikers through the night; all of the other rescue personal that assisted during the early morning hours; as well as God for a successful and safe rescue!
They shouldn't be commended for their common sense and brains obviously. Lucky they were in the SW where the weather is so mild. We in the SW don't know what extreme conditions are. At the most it's sweater weather and they couldn't think to bring one along.

Who pays for the rescue?
Ryan

Lewisville, TX

#11 Dec 19, 2010
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
They shouldn't be commended for their common sense and brains obviously. Lucky they were in the SW where the weather is so mild. We in the SW don't know what extreme conditions are. At the most it's sweater weather and they couldn't think to bring one along.
Who pays for the rescue?
"Common sense" and "brains" do not guarantee success or safety. I sincerely doubt that these hikers could have foreseen any of this happening. Nobody can blame you for being so critical, I suppose. Hindsight is 20/20, so it's easy to say that the hikers should have known that they'd be stuck on a mountain.
If you feel as if your tax money is more valuable than the lives of others, then I'm sure the state government would be happy to return your fractions of a dollar to you.
Joe

United States

#12 Dec 20, 2010
What gets me is these are college students. You could see if they were some group from some special school. They have the money for college, even though they have zero common sense, so I think it's fair to have them pay for the rescue.

Tell them next time remember to pack a $1.00 rain poncho, bring a sweater, a granola bar and water. And don't keep going when you see it's getting dark and beginning to rain.
presley askew

Rio Rancho, NM

#13 Dec 20, 2010
These hikers are living proof that even the brain dead can enjoy the great outdoors.
Peter Black

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Dec 20, 2010
I will agree that the hikers werenít logical with their hiking. I have gone hiking many times in the Floridaís. I was born and raised in Deming, and grew up learning how to hike. I have gone on backpacking trips and know that with day hikes you should plan for anything. Although they went at 2 in the afternoon, they should have prepared for anything. They should have taken a set of warmer clothes, food like an apple, water, flashlight, a flare, first aid kit, cell phone, rain gear, and other stuff Iím probable forgetting. Anyone who spends time outdoors in the desert would know that it does get cold at night (proven fact), so wearing warm clothes is needed. It was cold enough for them to get hyperthermia, so denying that their situation was threatening just makes me laugh! No one can fake their temperature to drop to 82, and 87, and enduring that for sixteen hours without warmth on a ledge hugging their legs would prove as more than enough discipline, as well as spending time in the hospital (after doctors said they were hours from death). Also knowing the family had insurance, says their hard earned cash got them the insurance they deserved provided by their employment. Most of medical bills were covered, us random people on here who have apparently have not much time other than to argue with lots of people who just donít understand or give a care of GODís people. The insurance was provided by the American way of earning it freedom to have a job, and get benefits like insurance. Taxes pay for our teaches, firefighters, police ect. You know the essentials. Also taxes do pay for the rescuers on this scene. They also had the freedom to know what their job will cover. In taking their job they know they will have to save people who donít make the wisest decisions. Itís either sitting in the station or the office waiting to save someone or taking the call of saving someone (hmmm tough decision). Their job is to rescue people. The search and rescue is all volunteer. So all forces whether paid or not sacrificed themselves, so I salute you and thank God for you! Without selfless people like you who donít judge people or profile someone by age or race; soooo many people would be lost.
I do know that as a hiker, all the things I mentioned that they should have done, I honestly donít do. I also know most day hikers donít take all this stuff in case a situation like this happens. A lot of hikers I know donít stay on the trails, and think they can do more than they are able; which is good we have search and rescue teams. I see the stupidity here, but I also know Iím just as stupid. If I were to know my tax dollars went here or situations that are less serious and unnecessary, I would be ok with that. Itís not really my money anyway; itís all going to perish. How selfish would it be for me to hug my precious green paper and not help others even when they donít make the best decisions? Knowing my tax money went to savings these girls lives, who almost died, I am glad! Thatís the best thing our money has probably gone to all week, ALL YEAR! In the midst of buying gifts for people that will perish I helped save two/four peopleís lives no matter what they did! How selfish to think people would rather hold onto their money and let people suffer or die then give money for a greater cause than themselves.
These groups of people, who were rescued, were brave; beauty was somehow made of their mess. They learned to pack better when hiking, and to go at reasonable times. They are sharing this lesson, praise God. They learned we have limits, and how fragile and weak we are. How amazing they survived the night, most people would have jumped off the cliff, given up, or worse tried to get down where they would have died or got injured in a way they couldnít communicate to get help! I commend you survivors for sticking it out!
Just a mom 2

Deming, NM

#15 Dec 20, 2010
One who was there wrote:
That was quite possible the longest, hardest, coldest, most rewarding night I have ever worked. By the time we got to the hikers they had already been stranded almost 5 hours. I would like to say though that the 2 girls on top of the rock that we could not reach are my heroes. They endured some extreme weather and it was nearly daylight before they were reached. It goes to show that you can do anything if you stay strong. I need to say thank you to my Captain and Chief for staying strong as well, and the USBP, Organ Mountain Seach and Rescue, Grant County Search and Rescue, NMSP, LCSO, and Red Cross for the support that each gave.
A reply from the DFD Captain that was there: Wrong genders, wrong nationalities, misspelled names misleading information that is what ďOne who was thereĒ is complaining about. This is a battle with the reporter and newspaper, not a plea from a glory chasing hound. The Deming Fire Department and all of their firefighters are bound by oath to save lives, protect property and mitigate the emergency circumstance that comes our way. We donít ask if you have the ability to pay first. When called we respond to the best of our ability. This is not the first time the local newspaper has down played our roll in an emergency situation. And it does affect us when local politicians and their voters are looking to cut budgets in these hard economic times. We fight structure and wild fires, provide Emergency Medical Services, Basic Life Support and Advanced Life Support and transport; respond to hazardous material incidents, provide vehicle extrication, etc, these are just some examples of what we do for the citizens of Deming , Luna County and the public at large. We take a lot of pride in what we do.

To get back to the situation at hand, the college aged kids made one bad decision, they climbed one rock to many so late in the day. They are young and ambitious, how do you cultivate wisdom and experience without making mistakes. They were lucky, I will give them that, but they endured. The cries from the girls above will forever haunt us while we, the men of action had to sit by a fire and wait until technical rope rescue could get there. We provided a fire and blankets for warmth to the two below, communication to the search and rescue teams and some moral support to the college kids knowing that we were with them. Weather complicated the rescue between wind, rain and cold along with the fog. It took approximately three hours for the Fire Chief, this Captain and his Lieutenant to climb 1.9 miles from 4000 feet to 7000 feet in the dark amongst some of the roughest terrain around. When Search and Rescue made it to us at about 5am trust me we all breathed a sigh of relief. We stayed til after Day break then assisted the two we had with us down to the Helicopter while Search and Rescue continued to go after the other two. Once all is said and done it was the collective team effort that brought everyone home safe. Luna County Central Dispatch, Luna County Sheriffs Department, Deming Fire Department, New Mexico State Police, New Mexico Park Ranger, Luna County Emergency manager, Sunshine Volunteer Fire Dept. Florida Volunteer Fire Dept, Grant County Search and Rescue, Oregon Mountain Search and Rescue, US Border Patrol Search and Rescue and their Helicopter pilots along with any other support staff and the American Red Cross these are the people and entities involved with saving the lives of these girls and I take pride in that.
A sister

United States

#16 Dec 22, 2010
Praise God my brother is safe. Praise God his friends are alive. I can't say it enough. Praise God.
another one who was there

Florence, AL

#18 Dec 22, 2010
Some interesting posts here. I would like to point out again, as several other people mentioned, that SAR in the state of NM is all volunteer. However, this is not the case in all states.

I can't believe someone would honestly be complaining about "wasting" money on trying to save the lives of these 4 awesome young adults. In fact, it is against the law to ever refuse any person (illegal aliens, criminals, ugly people, and in-laws included) health care if they are in need. Concerned citizens should look a little harder at how tax money is "wasted" before making ridiculous comments.

I'm glad that Brittney, Grace, Trey and Yu Jin are alright. I give major props to each one of them for sticking it out and being so brave. The work of the rescue crews was nothing special, but we were merely doing our jobs. Nothing less should ever be expected of us, to do the job we are called out to do.

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