What did Lucifer do to really fall fr...

What did Lucifer do to really fall from grace?

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the boxer

Hurricane, WV

#1 Feb 10, 2013
I have a theory i would like to share.This theory isnt something i necessarily believe or would teach as fact but only a possibility.We know from scripture that Lucifer was among the most powerful of angels.We also know that they were created to assist God in his creation.Let us now go back billions of yrs and pretend we are angels.We know God on a personal basis.We have walked and spoken with him.We know his power and glory.Now one day Lucifer comes along and starts talking trash about God.Would this be enough to get one third of all angels to rebel against an all powerful,all knowing God.Remember,these angels are probably a thousand times more intelligent than Albert Einstein.Therefore Lucifer had to have done something equally powerful in their eyes to get them to rebel.What if he tried his hand at creation?Since hes not as powerful as God,his attempts at creation were substandard.Thus we have CAVEMAN!The bible says he tried to exalt himself above God.To exalt oneself could be deeds as well as words.Just because its not mentioned in the bible doesnt mean it couldnt have happened.God doesnt mention the atoms and molecules in the bible but we know thats how he constructed the universe.He doesnt mention the planets in the solar system but we know they are there.Logically thinking Satan had to have done something powerful to persuade a third of angels to rebel.Why would he do this and why would they follow him?Two reasons.#1 jealousy of Gods plan to create mankind.#2 what better way to bring about mankinds downfall than to have him believe in evolution instead of God and creation.Why would God allow this?Two reasons.#1 He will lend no credence to satan.#2 He decided to use this to his advantage.How?Perhaps it is all about faith.
Wow

Nitro, WV

#2 Feb 10, 2013
Are you high?
the boxer

Hurricane, WV

#3 Feb 10, 2013
How about an intelligent reply instead,whether it be pro or con.You have any insight ?
the boxer

Hurricane, WV

#4 Feb 10, 2013
Are you following me from topic to topic?I remember you from the other discussion.Your the FAIRYgodmothers friend.Birds of a feather.
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the boxer

Hurricane, WV

#6 Feb 11, 2013
Something else I forgot to add to my opening quote was the fact that Lucifer does possess power.The bible tells us he has the power to transform himself into anything he chooses.He also is capable of calling fire down from the sky,etc.Also perhaps the reason archaeologists cannot find the so called missing link between the old world age and modern creation is because God considered them an abomination and destroyed it.This is referred to as the catabol or the uprising.
The REAL Wow

Ashburn, VA

#7 Feb 11, 2013
Just couldn't leave it alone, could you?
the boxer

Hurricane, WV

#8 Feb 11, 2013
Didnt mean any disrespect to YOUR ancestors.
Sdu

Hurricane, WV

#9 Feb 11, 2013
I actually enjoy hearing about theories that haven't been mentioned before. I think it's interesting. And I also believe anythings possible, because you are right-The Bible is man made, so I'm sure there are so many things that have been left out or/and twisted.

Have you heard the story of Lilith? Adams FIRST wife? From what I understand, she didn't want to submit, so God created Eve to submit to Adam. It's in one of the books that they decided to not put in the Bible.
Ohio

Lancaster, OH

#10 Feb 11, 2013
The REAL Wow wrote:
Just couldn't leave it alone, could you?
What is wrong with being forthright?
The REAL Wow

Ashburn, VA

#11 Feb 11, 2013
It continues to astound me that those who claim to be holier-than-though, or have that direct hotline to Jesus are the ones who are the furthest away from what they claim to be.
Ohio

Lancaster, OH

#12 Feb 11, 2013
The REAL Wow wrote:
It continues to astound me that those who claim to be holier-than-though, or have that direct hotline to Jesus are the ones who are the furthest away from what they claim to be.
When in any of these previous posts did the boxer say he was holier than thou? You're redirecting the topic at hand because you have no valid input on the subject matter. See boxer this is what you get when trying to have a conversation or discussion with someone who has clearly lost themselves.
Ohio

Lancaster, OH

#13 Feb 11, 2013
If I was God I would be dizzy from constatly shaking my head!
The REAL Wow

Ashburn, VA

#14 Feb 11, 2013
Well NEWS FLASH you are not God. So stop trying to be. You don't know my relationship with him so you are not to judge what you know nothing about. Only he knows what I mean when I say something. It's not for your benefit. Trust that. You have got to be the most judgemental person on Topix I have ever had the misfortune of 'reading'. What a waste of time. Grow up and don't start ministies on a website known for bashing and trashing. Since you want to come across as intelligent, do it where it might actually mean something. NOT Topix.
Ohio

Lancaster, OH

#15 Feb 11, 2013
If you have nothing to offer don't comment.Im not trying to seem intelligent its just how normal adults converse.Im judgmental? That is the pot calling the kettle african American!!!
Ohio

Lancaster, OH

#16 Feb 11, 2013
And God is George Burns.
Wow

Nitro, WV

#17 Feb 11, 2013
The REAL Wow wrote:
Well NEWS FLASH you are not God. So stop trying to be. You don't know my relationship with him so you are not to judge what you know nothing about. Only he knows what I mean when I say something. It's not for your benefit. Trust that. You have got to be the most judgemental person on Topix I have ever had the misfortune of 'reading'. What a waste of time. Grow up and don't start ministies on a website known for bashing and trashing. Since you want to come across as intelligent, do it where it might actually mean something. NOT Topix.
Nailed it! I'm sure there's pleanty of nice theology discussion boards on the internet.
the boxer

Hurricane, WV

#18 Feb 11, 2013
If its not for our benefit why are you sharing it with us?I thought the purpose of topix was to share.Istarted this discussion for the reason of exchanging ideas or opinions on the topic at hand,not white trash mud slinging that keeps spewing forth with every quote from your mouth.Now are you intelligent enough to join this discussion and enlighten us with your wisdom? If your not schooled enough on the bible to do so than thats alright, just dont puke on those of us who are. So either join in, sit back and just read or move on to one of the trash talking gossip topics. Buzzzzzz.Whats that buzzing sound? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Oh, its a fly! Dont be a pest.
the boxer

Hurricane, WV

#19 Feb 12, 2013
If WOW and REAL WOW keep insisting on following me from topic to topic and bugging me i will have no recourse than to refer to them as the Tsetse twins.
Lynne

Charleston, WV

#20 Feb 12, 2013
The REAL Wow wrote:
It continues to astound me that those who claim to be holier-than-though, or have that direct hotline to Jesus are the ones who are the furthest away from what they claim to be.
I couldn't agree more.
Lynne

Charleston, WV

#21 Feb 12, 2013
the boxer wrote:
If WOW and REAL WOW keep insisting on following me from topic to topic and bugging me i will have no recourse than to refer to them as the Tsetse twins.
Why would you do that? Do you think Jesus would resort to name calling?

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