Motorcycle crash Friday on 163?

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KimK

Red Bud, IL

#1 Mar 20, 2010
Does anyone know what happened and who this person was?

Since: Nov 08

Millstadt

#2 Mar 20, 2010
KimK wrote:
Does anyone know what happened and who this person was?
Still waiting to notify next of kin...
Iron Worker from 46

Millstadt, IL

#3 Mar 20, 2010
His name was Dan Cain. I was fortunate to be able to work with him and call him a friend. He was from Chicago and a union Iron Worker from Local 1 of Chicago. He came down here for work over a year ago, during which time he made many friends. Everyone liked Danny, making friends was easy for him. Danny will truely be missed. R.I.P. Danny.
Anastasia Beaverhousian

Glen Carbon, IL

#4 Mar 21, 2010
My deepest sympathies for the loss of your friend.
Townie

Ballwin, MO

#5 Mar 22, 2010
Iron Worker from 46 wrote:
His name was Dan Cain. I was fortunate to be able to work with him and call him a friend. He was from Chicago and a union Iron Worker from Local 1 of Chicago. He came down here for work over a year ago, during which time he made many friends. Everyone liked Danny, making friends was easy for him. Danny will truely be missed. R.I.P. Danny.
I am sorry for the loss of your friend as well. I will have to ask my husband if he knew him since he is an IW from 46 as well!!

Since: Jan 10

Belleville, IL

#6 Mar 22, 2010
Does anybody know what happend and who's fault it was?
Townie

Ballwin, MO

#7 Mar 22, 2010
stadtm8 wrote:
Does anybody know what happend and who's fault it was?
You sure won't find this info. out from reading the article in BND.com - I have read it twice and it doesn't make any sense!!

Since: Nov 08

Millstadt

#8 Mar 22, 2010
Townie wrote:
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You sure won't find this info. out from reading the article in BND.com - I have read it twice and it doesn't make any sense!!
Exactly true! I went out to the crash site, and the marks from the reconstructionist are still there. The impact was directly across from the cemetery road (on the west side of the highway and NOT on Valley View Road as per BND. This is probably on the ISP accident report as the nearest cross street with 163, which the reporter may not have realized). Yet the article states she had completed her turn into the northbound lane? I'm not a trained professional crash guy, but to me I don't think an Escalade could make that sharp of a turn! Pictures in this week's Millstadt Messenger...
Ironworker from 46

Vincennes, IN

#9 Mar 22, 2010
Millstadt News Guy I am the one that talked to you at the MCS benefit Saturday night. This whole thing screams cover up or incompetance on the part of the state police. A local fireman that responded stated that it was clearly the woamns fault, till the state police TOOK the case away from county and did the investigation. I too went to the site and found that if you sit in the drive to the cemetary, facing the road, like you were to pull out, that you can see the painted marks representing Danny's bike on the road, IN YOUR FRONT WINDOW. If she made made a complete turn her vehicle would be farther up the road, not 5 feet up the road. If Danny was able to see her and react, why wasn't she able to react? If it happened the way she stated, he would have hit the front of her vehicle. Look at the placement of the paint marks, his bike was in the middle of the road, if she had completed her turn, the only way his bike would be there is if he hit the front of her vehicle. If he had the hit the side of her vehicle, his bike would have glanced off and traveled down the road.But at the same time, if she was in her lane as she staed, he wouldn't have needed to slam on his brakes to avoid her. He aimed his bike into the north bound lanes in an attempt to avoid her, and she continued on, placing her vehicle in his path. I also feel her phone her phone records need to be checked into to see if she was jacking her jaws on the phone instead of watching where she was driving. What was the reason for her being in the cemetary? Did she lose a family member... did she get behind the wheel upset and not in the correct state of mind to operate her 6,000lb tank.

One other thing that keeps being over looked is that fact that Danny had the right of way... the woman failed to make sure the road was clear before pulling out. Without a doubt, it is her fault.

By the way, Danny's visitaion is Thursday from 3pm to 9pm at the Lawn funeral home in Orland Park, Il, with the funeral the following day.

Millstadt News Guy, do everyone a favor, talk to the firemen and EMT. This case needs political influence to be opened up and the correct judgement made. Clearly SGT Mosely of the IL State Police are unable to do their job.
wondering

Waterloo, IL

#10 Mar 22, 2010
I'm wondering if his headlight was on, because it sounds like she didn't see him and pulled out in front of him.
Ironworker from 46

Vincennes, IN

#11 Mar 22, 2010
I'm sure his light was on, she claimed she saw him coming toward her.
poisonpen

Powder Springs, GA

#12 Mar 22, 2010
Wow… I sure don’t remember seeing any of you at the accident scene… First, he was flat out movin…speed limit was 50mph.. he had to climb a hill and he hit a blind curve. After skidding for 70 feet and CROSSING THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE ….. let me say that just one more time, he crossed the center line not just a little, poi was in the center of the escalades lane… had he stayed in his lane he’d be walking around today, veteran rider or not, he made a mistake, no need to crucify the survivors, had he been in a car and hit them going that fast they all would have died….. not to mention there was a child in the vehicle... someone could show you the truth and you would still refuse to see it...you sure are making alot of assumptions, need to check your facts
Ironworker from 46

Vincennes, IN

#13 Mar 22, 2010
Hey poisonpen you forget that she failed to yield to on coming traffic.

Since: Nov 08

Millstadt

#14 Mar 22, 2010
Poison...I'm not crucifying anyone, and the reason I went to the scene was to "check the facts." The marks are still on the pavement for anyone to see. I pulled out from the cemetery, and also drove up the hill. Even at the posted speed limit, there is only a second or so to see anyone coming up the hill or react to a turning vehicle. It is a tragic accident and nothing will bring him back, or ease the trauma the driver must be going through.

I made no assumptions, only reporting what I saw after the fact as a neutral observer. But in your post you made three assumptions:(1) he was speeding; (2) if he stayed in his lane he would be alive and not hit another part of the vehicle, or swerved and lost control; and (3) if he was in a car everyone would have died.

Since: Jan 10

United States

#15 Mar 23, 2010
The lady runs a funral delivery business.
Rider in Chicago

Bolingbrook, IL

#16 Mar 23, 2010
Look, This won't bring Danny back. May he rest in piece. This is a tragedy for alot of his family and friends. I don't know much about this accident. I know he will be missed. He was a seasoned rider, and for whatever reason, this won't change the result. We all can speculate.
Rest in piece Bro.

Since: Nov 08

Millstadt

#17 Mar 23, 2010
Rider in Chicago wrote:
Look, This won't bring Danny back. May he rest in piece. This is a tragedy for alot of his family and friends. I don't know much about this accident. I know he will be missed. He was a seasoned rider, and for whatever reason, this won't change the result. We all can speculate.
Rest in piece Bro.
Amen. RIP
Ironworker from 46

Vincennes, IN

#18 Mar 23, 2010
Millstadt News Guy, you're running an obit in this weeks paper, is that correct? There are friends of his in Chicago asking for news papers to be brought up, seems that they aren't getting much news in Chicago, and would like to know more about what happened down here.

Since: Nov 08

Millstadt

#19 Mar 24, 2010
Ironworker from 46 wrote:
Millstadt News Guy, you're running an obit in this weeks paper, is that correct? There are friends of his in Chicago asking for news papers to be brought up, seems that they aren't getting much news in Chicago, and would like to know more about what happened down here.
I couldn't find the complete obituary in time, but there is a front page story on the accident on stands now. Nothing very controversial, but there is a photo of the impact site. Sorry again for the loss of your friend...
Ironworker from 46

Vincennes, IN

#20 Mar 25, 2010
It was good to see my friend and fellow brother Ironworker one last time. Hopefully we will meet each other again... if not that means one of us went to a better place than the other. Take care Danny, see you sometime down the road.

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