'Self defense' says Ohio man who killed black bear

Full story: NewsTimes.com 34
An eastern Ohio man says he killed a black bear in self defense because the animal charged at him - but he's been charged with shooting an endangered animal. Full Story
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fopdan

Wallingford, CT

#1 Jul 26, 2008
If the bear got the dog who could he sue the bear ??
You can shoot people and get in less trouble..
montana

Battle Mountain, NV

#2 Jul 26, 2008
since when is a black bear an endangered species they are hunted every year in a lot of states
Tyler Rominger

Saint Clairsville, OH

#3 Oct 3, 2008
I think if he was attacked he should have the right to shoot the bear.
say what

York, PA

#9 Oct 3, 2008
Seems to be the case. I think two-thirds of their traffic would evaporate if not for the haters.

“I am right.”

Since: Feb 08

Pearl. MS

#10 Oct 3, 2008
Shot the bear. Sue the parks department for not having signs up. Problem solved!
TWN

Massillon, OH

#11 Dec 18, 2008
He should of let the bear attack him then sue the state of ohio they own the bear right he payed the fine
J1 Centreville

Centreville, VA

#12 Feb 12, 2009
It's very sad to think that an animal's (who is about to attack you) life is more important than a human being. I'm not really sure if black bears has been added to endangered species list. However the case, if they are about to maim or kill a human being, then that bear or any animal should be killed. If the bear would have killed you then I sure there would have been a search party out for a killer bear. Are they just going reprimand it? If a policemen would have encountered that situation - wihtout doubt they would have taken the same action and they would probably have received some type of heroic recognition - endangered or not. Let's get real - we need to have more consideration for human lives. If there was an increase in the population of black bears - there would be a day set aside every year for killing them. I think if I saw one coming toward me and if I had a weapon I would probably kill it out of shear fear. Maybe it was just wanting the food that I was eating - I can't understand their language but I surely wouldn't wait for an interpreter. Good thinking young man - if I was around or one of my family was in that situation, I would hope you would be there to protect me. I can't believe someone would want you prosecuted for your action. Sounds like an animal lover who believes that animals don't attack without reason. People do - why not animals?
whynot

New Milford, CT

#13 Feb 13, 2009
Shoot it then bury it! The only mistake was telling anyone about it. Screw the state and animal rights nuts. I'd be taking this the highest court. Why shouldn't I be able to protect myself, family and property!
Sinajuavi

Morgantown, WV

#14 Feb 13, 2009
In that position, assuming the bear did indeed attack, I'd shoot it, then take the claws and teeth and hide, bury the rest, et voilą!

No harm, no foul.

Just don't let them catch you with the teeth. But these have significance and good artistic and religious use for many people. This goes back even to the cave-painting days in Europe, and to more recent times in America.

Isn't the only question here, legally, to establish whether in fact he was threatened by the bear? And so it's his word against a dead bear... I don't see how he could be convicted unless there's some evidence I missed.
sandra

Atwater, OH

#15 Apr 8, 2009
TWN wrote:
He should of let the bear attack him then sue the state of ohio they own the bear right he payed the fine
if he lived he could have sued. he would have lost though, the argument being you had a firearm why did you let the bear attack you!

this man should not be charged. only in Ohio
Ohio Man

Atwater, OH

#17 May 20, 2009
I don't get it, we're paying for Ohio ODNR to buy bears from PA and WVA for "Reintroduction" to Ohio
as a former native animal?

Dang! It it took us over a 150 years to kill'em off!
I see in the future a bear season in Ohio.

"Come to Ohio and kill a bar, for only $500"

Money could be better spent.
proteus

Zanesville, OH

#18 Jul 7, 2009
PEOPLE COME BEFORE ANIMALS. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
endangered or common, young or old. this is a farce.
you only need have a high school education to become an ODNR officer in ohio. RETARDED. it's no wonder why we find ourselves as we do at this very F'ing moment, is it? i'd be interested to see the
university affiliation that the people who are responsible for this law have.
i guess the only difference now is that i'll just keep the skin and leave the dead bear to rot in the woods. hey, wait a minute.. if i can get away with it once, i'm going to go shoot some more and just not tell anyone.. hmmmmm
guy who shot the bear? GOOD FOR YOU. you passed the basic human intelligence test that the creators of this law apparently failed. i don't care if it was the LAST black bear in existence. there's a reason bears don't run things.
El Loco

Carlisle, PA

#19 Jul 7, 2009
Damn bear was probably a no good pic-a-nic basket filcher with gang ties anyway.
END54

West Bend, IA

#20 Mar 22, 2010
J1 Centreville wrote:
It's very sad to think that an animal's (who is about to attack you) life is more important than a human being. I'm not really sure if black bears has been added to endangered species list. However the case, if they are about to maim or kill a human being, then that bear or any animal should be killed. If the bear would have killed you then I sure there would have been a search party out for a killer bear. Are they just going reprimand it? If a policemen would have encountered that situation - wihtout doubt they would have taken the same action and they would probably have received some type of heroic recognition - endangered or not. Let's get real - we need to have more consideration for human lives. If there was an increase in the population of black bears - there would be a day set aside every year for killing them. I think if I saw one coming toward me and if I had a weapon I would probably kill it out of shear fear. Maybe it was just wanting the food that I was eating - I can't understand their language but I surely wouldn't wait for an interpreter. Good thinking young man - if I was around or one of my family was in that situation, I would hope you would be there to protect me. I can't believe someone would want you prosecuted for your action. Sounds like an animal lover who believes that animals don't attack without reason. People do - why not animals?
You are right, a humans life should be more important than a bears, but consider the situation. The bear has lived in the same area its whole life. HE has moved into ITS territory. The animal should not be punished for this. The man made a choice to move into the area he moved into for whatever reason. I believe that you should have to sign a paper saying that you recognize the area you are moving into is bear country and you cannot harm a bear for moving onto your property. Put a fence up, you came to his house, so he can come to yours. Its unnecessary to move out into the country that far. It is personal preference, not a life or death choice. HE CHOSE TO MOVE THERE. Therefore it is his fault.
Zero

Foster City, CA

#21 Mar 22, 2010
Once again the Alpha Predator came out on top. Isn't Nature beautiful?
GuyWhoCanRead

Lancaster, OH

#22 Feb 27, 2012
montana wrote:
since when is a black bear an endangered species they are hunted every year in a lot of states
since black bears were extirpated from Ohio in the early 1900's. read a book.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Puerto Vallarta, Mexico

#23 Feb 27, 2012
END54 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right, a humans life should be more important than a bears, but consider the situation. The bear has lived in the same area its whole life. HE has moved into ITS territory. The animal should not be punished for this. The man made a choice to move into the area he moved into for whatever reason. I believe that you should have to sign a paper saying that you recognize the area you are moving into is bear country and you cannot harm a bear for moving onto your property. Put a fence up, you came to his house, so he can come to yours. Its unnecessary to move out into the country that far. It is personal preference, not a life or death choice. HE CHOSE TO MOVE THERE. Therefore it is his fault.
I favor very large treble hooks made for sharks.

You attach these to a tree with about 20 feet of steel cable and then wrap the hook in bacon.....

Simply return to the bait and find your bear hooked to a tree.........
Hubert

Williston, VT

#24 Feb 27, 2012
Tyler Rominger wrote:
I think if he was attacked he should have the right to shoot the bear.
Gosh he didn no need to wait to see if the black animal attacking wuza bear ur not!
DrKerrPhD

Ocala, FL

#25 Sep 16, 2012
Several years ago in Eastern Ohio, I had a black bear kill a young Polled Charolais bull (5 months old)that was a full brother to the featured Charolias Bull at Select Sires! After that, I carried a 16 ga. semi-automatic, but the bear never returned to attack any more cattle. Can you figure that one out?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#26 Sep 16, 2012
DrKerrPhD wrote:
Several years ago in Eastern Ohio, I had a black bear kill a young Polled Charolais bull (5 months old)that was a full brother to the featured Charolias Bull at Select Sires! After that, I carried a 16 ga. semi-automatic, but the bear never returned to attack any more cattle. Can you figure that one out?
16 gauge?????

A Ruger 700 with a 18 inch barrel chambered in 375 h&h

Even hand guns like the 454 or 500 may not drop a bear

Years ago I was asked to help track down a

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