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School taxes skyrocketing in Brookhaven -

There are 39 comments on the Newsday story from Nov 15, 2007, titled School taxes skyrocketing in Brookhaven -. In it, Newsday reports that:

Spiraling school taxes have caught up with Steven and Suzanne Gillan. Three years ago, the Gillans moved to eastern Brookhaven Town in the hope of escaping high taxes charged on their Smithtown home.

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outraged

Brentwood, NY

#1 Nov 15, 2007
well let's see, you can fail the budget and pay 7.5% increase or pass the budget and pay 8.5% increase. wow that's a real decision. if the budget is failed it goes back to last years numbers. oh no raises or sports or anything else that can't be paid for no let's let the inmates run the jail and give ultimatuims
idiots

AOL

#2 Nov 15, 2007
every year people go out and vote yes to there budget being raised and every year the same people complain aboutthere taxes just how fing stupid are our fellow long islanders
Bazooka Joe

Freehold, NJ

#3 Nov 15, 2007
Well, maybe if we dont keep giving these teachers huge raises, we could hold the line on taxes
Kimberly Wilder

Long Beach, NY

#4 Nov 15, 2007
Capping taxes might be a solution.

A much more powerful solution would be a "menu item ballot" on school taxes.

School taxes should not be a "yes or no" vote. Because, the school can always scare people into voting yes, or bribe one faction and another to create pork.

If the budget had to be presented with several choices, people could have real input into their school and community.

Some examples:

Make it so that school budgets have to have a line item that people can vote on for:

1. Transportation budget - increase yes or increase no

2. Teacher salary - increase yes or increase no

3. Administrator salary - increase yes or increase no

4. Extra-currciula programs - increase yes or increase no

Democracy is about much more than one vote on election day. If people do not participate throughout the year, they can't win. If people don't realize that they lose their choices if they only wake up on election day, then they can't really win.
The Decider

Rye, NY

#5 Nov 15, 2007
School taxes are skyrocketing in Brookhaven...no kidding. You'd never notice.Kids walking around all day in the malls. Taking the LIRR to the city on the 10:17 am., Hot rodding around on the towns major roads. Walking home without school books., Never any homework., Coffee and rolls in the mornings at local Dunkin' Donuts.,Just a few issues., Our town school taxes at work. Wake up!
fwiw

New Kent, VA

#6 Nov 15, 2007
Tell Albany - YOU MANDATE, YOU PAY!!!

Simple, isn't it?
Anonymous

Washington, DC

#7 Nov 15, 2007
God forbid we actually pay teachers, for the most part professionals as educated as any doctor or lawyer, what they're worth :)
Say the Truth

West Chester, PA

#8 Nov 15, 2007
Anonymous wrote:
God forbid we actually pay teachers, for the most part professionals as educated as any doctor or lawyer, what they're worth :)
What do you think teachers are paid on Long Island?

When I lived there almost 20 years ago there were at least some teachers in my district pushing close to 100K. This was late '80's. Can't imagine what they clear now. Not bad for working a couple hundred days a year.
Geeeez

Bronx, NY

#9 Nov 15, 2007
People really need to go to PTA and school board meetings. Sure there can be cost cutting here and there. Get some administration out of there. As for the guy in the last paragraph of the article.... Many teachers and employees already pay 20 percent into their benefits!!! DUH!!! But enjoy that 401K with employer contributions.... Teachers get the NYS Retirement system... All contributions are paid for by the employees... Not one cent comes from the employer after you are vested into the system...
Geeeez

Bronx, NY

#10 Nov 15, 2007
Say the truth... You are right some teachers ARE paid 100k. Kindergarden teachers sometimes, sometimes HS teachers.... Want to know why???? Real simple.... When they are in the district for 30 years they sort of make some raises over that time. Not really surprising is it. I guess in the private industry you dont get raises, bonuses and stock options.
Teachers dont get squat. Somehow people dream that teachers do. They get a nice 3.5 to 4 percent per year. So when Ms. White who is a year or two from retirement gets paid 100k a year for 30 years of service, no its not a big surprise.
whynot

Bangkok, Thailand

#11 Nov 15, 2007
Shut up and pay,you don't have a choice anyway suckers.
Sun Of The Beach

Bridgeport, CT

#12 Nov 15, 2007
There are many reasons for this. Its a stacked deck. The teachers, maitenance workers, bus drivers and the many employees working for the school district, more often then not the largest employer in the district, all vote as do members of their family. You knw with the money they are making, some of which is obscene, they are going to be voting in favor of the budget. That gives the budget someimtes 3 or four thausand yes votes from jump street. The school taxes should not be the burden of home owners. It should be fairly distributed. Any federal or state mandates must be paid for by that level of government with interest. The sales tax should be increased by one penny. There should be a 1% income tax state wide just to pay the school tax. Those with children in the school should pay a tuition based on income. There is no reason why elderly people with no children in the school should pay for something they are not using. However grand parents with grandkids in the school should kick in somewhat if they can afford it. Eliminate the property tax totally. I dont mind paying for my grandson little Jake. I have no problem with that. The salarys of some administrators are absurd. Some make 2 to 4 times more then the President of these United States. The teachers salarys are up there. And the egos totally out of control. I saw one teacher state she has just as much education as a Doctor. I dont think so. Countless ones of us have put in many years at what we do. Some educators make more money in the six months they work then an entire village in China makes in 2 years. School taxes and related costs are out of control. The whole system is a lock for massive increases yearly in what has become legal extortion. If organized crime did what these school district do they would be gone on a RICO. Remember all the school scandals nation wide. When you see an iceberg sticking out of the water you are seeing but the tip of it. There is no justice in this current system of things. Thats spelled JUST-ICE.

R Tuffy

Since: Mar 07

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#13 Nov 15, 2007
When does it end? How does a school district think that people can afford an increase in property taxes year after year?

One thing I don't get is taxes keep going up yet every year services for children get cut or are threatened unless we increase taxes more.

Am I missing something here?
wife and her family

Raleigh, NC

#14 Nov 15, 2007
Long Island is getting killed by over paid teachers and police. Maybe now when ask my wife if I should put in for that tranfer she'll finally give up her her desire to stay on Long Island. I've had enough, taxes, traffic, tolls on bridges going up. Enjoy your selves here I'm going out of state.
pax ton

San Antonio, TX

#15 Nov 16, 2007
How about getting those illegals to pay those school taxes? or at least their fair share. God forbid. The demos in politics don't care what YOU pay in taxes because most of them are filthy rich. Great strategy...keep the masses attacking each other,not them and their outrageous spending.
Sam

Port Jefferson Station, NY

#16 Nov 16, 2007
How come nobody talks about William Floyd School District in articles like this? Hey out there! Did you realize that because Mastic, Mastic Beach and Shirley have so many more residents choosing welfare as a permanent lifestyle, that the Mastics enjoy extremely low school taxes due to the fact that New York State subsidizes. Kind of makes you want to quit your jobs and let "the system" take care of you, doesn't it? Hell, what are we all working for? School districts don't care that the people are under a terrible oppression via being taxed to death. Abuses rage on and - Revolution is in the air!
Realist

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Nov 16, 2007
You have NO idea what you're talking about. Teachers on LI are paid ridiculous salaries. It's common knowledge in the teching world that the holy grail is a cushy job on LI.
Anonymous wrote:
God forbid we actually pay teachers, for the most part professionals as educated as any doctor or lawyer, what they're worth :)
Realist

Brooklyn, NY

#18 Nov 16, 2007
I live in Wantagh and I dispute everything you say.
Geeeez wrote:
Say the truth... You are right some teachers ARE paid 100k. Kindergarden teachers sometimes, sometimes HS teachers.... Want to know why???? Real simple.... When they are in the district for 30 years they sort of make some raises over that time. Not really surprising is it. I guess in the private industry you dont get raises, bonuses and stock options.
Teachers dont get squat. Somehow people dream that teachers do. They get a nice 3.5 to 4 percent per year. So when Ms. White who is a year or two from retirement gets paid 100k a year for 30 years of service, no its not a big surprise.
fwiw

New Rochelle, NY

#19 Nov 16, 2007
This morning, tv had spot on how billionaires live. Someone here said one in five Long Islanders is a millionaire. And in Brookhaven, formerly middle class residents are shivering in sixty degree homes, unable to fill oil tanks. The White House should push THEIR thermostat down to sixty and see how long before they felt the oil companies should rebate some of their obscene profits to consumers. And still Albany continues with mind numbing idiotic 'mandates' without funding.
paul

Elizabeth, NJ

#20 Nov 16, 2007
There is an answer to all of this:, Get rid of the unions.! They control everything, the budget vote, the administration, the school board, the administrator, school employees, et al! The answer? school choice, and a universal voucher system, one and the same thing.

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