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School fight drives Elco race

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Nine candidates are vying for four four-year seats on the Board of School Directors at Elco, a district embroiled in a bitter battle over planned elementary-school changes.

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#1
May 15, 2009
 
Y'know, I don't think all of this controversy surrounding the ELCO race would even exist if the current school board had treated their constituents with some respect.

But when they started pre-facing every decision with "This isn't a violation of the law", then you've got to wonder which decisions they made were legal.

They painted themselves into this corner and deserve the consequences.

I'm also convinced the Supt. is a lot more accountable than the parents and taxpayer have been led to believe.
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Hazleton, PA

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#2
May 15, 2009
 
Howard Kramer just got fined for violating Election laws.

Simmermon is not an architect. But claims he is.

Good lied about receiving money from ELCO in his finical disclosure forms.

3 bad choices for ELCO and for our kids to see as leaders
ELCO need not apologize

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#3
May 15, 2009
 
I'm sorry, but the fact is that ELCO was VERY OPEN with their ideas. Just because none of the people of the district went to meetings that are open to the public doesn't make it the board's fault. I live in the district, and it's funny, those who are against it are very vocal. But, that is actually the minority. Most of us don't mind, or even are excited about the change. We just don't need to run our mouths non stop. And, I also find it hilarious that these people running for the board at ELCO are talking about how they are going to do all of these things, yet, they have NO IDEA what they are even talking about... especially Mark. I guess he has been in education long enough to know how to make administration and teachers do a better job. LOL. Come on Mark. Just say you are there to try to make sure that the kids are getting the education they deserve. I myself, and most of my friends, will do our best to keep the current members who are out for reelection on the board.
Change is coming

Hazleton, PA

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May 15, 2009
 
ELCO need not apologize wrote:
I'm sorry, but the fact is that ELCO was VERY OPEN with their ideas. Just because none of the people of the district went to meetings that are open to the public doesn't make it the board's fault. I live in the district, and it's funny, those who are against it are very vocal. But, that is actually the minority. Most of us don't mind, or even are excited about the change. We just don't need to run our mouths non stop. And, I also find it hilarious that these people running for the board at ELCO are talking about how they are going to do all of these things, yet, they have NO IDEA what they are even talking about... especially Mark. I guess he has been in education long enough to know how to make administration and teachers do a better job. LOL. Come on Mark. Just say you are there to try to make sure that the kids are getting the education they deserve. I myself, and most of my friends, will do our best to keep the current members who are out for reelection on the board.
Great!!! We need potential criminals and confirmed law breakers and straight out liars in the buildings with our children. You vote for the liars. The other 99.9% of ELCO will vote for change.
Mom

Lititz, PA

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May 15, 2009
 
I hope you are right about the 99.9%..... As a working MOM, I don't always have the time to attend meetings, I WANT to TRUST that the people elected to the board are looking out for our KIDS.
Please someone, post posters too make people aware of the vote and how important it is to VOTE !!!!
I'm not sure what I will do if there is no change...... any ideas??
Change is coming

Hazleton, PA

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#6
May 15, 2009
 
The current ones have proved to be liars, its time for them to go. Our taxes will soar with the bad ideas they have implemented. Want higher taxes and your children on a bus for an hour?
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May 15, 2009
 
ELCO need not apologize wrote:
I live in the district, and it's funny, those who are against it are very vocal. But, that is actually the minority. Most of us don't mind, or even are excited about the change.
Wow, this will be the first time in history that the "minority" of voters swept an election.
truthsquad

Lebanon, PA

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May 15, 2009
 
carl wrote:
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Wow, this will be the first time in history that the "minority" of voters swept an election.
If they do, the district is in serious trouble.
huh

York, PA

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May 15, 2009
 
truthsquad wrote:
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If they do, the district is in serious trouble.
Says who? LOL Change is good! Isn't that what the Board's been saying all along?!
Jay Bauder

Norristown, PA

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May 15, 2009
 
ELCO need not apologize wrote:
I'm sorry, but the fact is that ELCO was VERY OPEN with their ideas. Just because none of the people of the district went to meetings that are open to the public doesn't make it the board's fault. I live in the district, and it's funny, those who are against it are very vocal. But, that is actually the minority. Most of us don't mind, or even are excited about the change. We just don't need to run our mouths non stop. And, I also find it hilarious that these people running for the board at ELCO are talking about how they are going to do all of these things, yet, they have NO IDEA what they are even talking about... especially Mark. I guess he has been in education long enough to know how to make administration and teachers do a better job. LOL. Come on Mark. Just say you are there to try to make sure that the kids are getting the education they deserve. I myself, and most of my friends, will do our best to keep the current members who are out for reelection on the board.
By "VERY OPEN", do you mean when Nilsen had the board vote on including the verbiage "A non response will be considered a response"? If you think this administration is "OPEN", it's only because you sit at the same table to eat with one of them.

You'd better make plans to spend Tuesday night with a crisis counselor. Your dream world is about to come to an end.

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Linden, NJ

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May 15, 2009
 
Mom wrote:
I hope you are right about the 99.9%..... As a working MOM, I don't always have the time to attend meetings, I WANT to TRUST that the people elected to the board are looking out for our KIDS.
Please someone, post posters too make people aware of the vote and how important it is to VOTE !!!!
I'm not sure what I will do if there is no change...... any ideas??
One thing you can be certain, I have yet to meet an Honest Politician, and we need serious change in America, you all have got to vote out all candidates running for re-election who have been around since at-least the cold war era. True change comes from changing who you send to represent you.

I am running for the US Senate in 2010 against any politician who runs, I am running because we don't need career politicians governing us. It is supposed to be By the people, Of the people and For the people, right now government from the Dog catcher to The President of the US of A is for themselves and all they can stuff into their wallets. If you don't think so, I'll ask you in 3 and a half years if you are any better off than you were. Right now my life isn't any better and no one but me is going to improve it. The same is with you, only you can change your life for the better, get rid of the career politicians.
think about this

Kennett Square, PA

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#12
May 16, 2009
 
Dear Herbert,
Senate terms are six years, not four.
Will E Makit

East Orange, NJ

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May 16, 2009
 
think about this wrote:
Dear Herbert,
Senate terms are six years, not four.
Herbert is Ray Ondrusek after too many bong hits!
Old Broad from ELCO

Lebanon, PA

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#14
May 16, 2009
 
Mr. Ondrusek really gets to you other School Board members, doesn't he? He stands up for what he believes is right and the rest of you can't take it. He listens to the people and tries to act on their wishes. I've seen the exasperated looks you give each other when he quietly tries to make a motion to stop the madness at your bogus meetings. He is a man of true courage and the whole district can see that. Your nasty comments about him don't mean a thing to us. It does, however, make you look ridiculous.
Truth for Liars

York, PA

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#15
May 17, 2009
 
Simmermon, 56, is in his fourth year on the board. He is employed in the profession of health-care architecture.

What...? Is he still sticking to the Architect skit? I thought his business cards say project manager? Another day, another lie from the current ELCO board.
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Harrisburg, PA

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#16
May 17, 2009
 
(quote from George Costanza on Seinfeld)

"You know I always wanted to pretend to be an architect."
Mike Brady

Oakland, CA

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May 17, 2009
 
I'm an architect, too.
Thats gonna hurt

York, PA

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#18
May 17, 2009
 
Lie about being an Architect and see what happens. I bet James won't choose to lie about that again. We expect excellence, not liars.
ELCO need not apologize

Lancaster, PA

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#19
May 18, 2009
 
You people are nuts. Upset about a new school. Unreal. You can mock me all you want, doesn't matter. The fact is that the board did everything completely legally. Boards are faced with tough decisions all of the time. Do you really think that the people that replace the current board will make a difference? it is like the Annville thing right now. They voted out good board members based on a new school, and the people that took over are idiots! They have no clue about laws or education. But, they got rid of those darn people that raised the taxes a little and built a great new school... Darn those people! It's going to be interesting to see if two of those members, who had been voted off for being part of the new school regime, get voted back on now. That would be very telling, and quite similar to ELCO. Do you get rid of people who, with the exception of one decision, have done a nice job? It amazes me that you'll vote for a complete unknown just because you are upset with one choice that you don't find popular. That is the real problem with this.
check ur facts

Lebanon, PA

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#20
May 18, 2009
 
They are not "unknown". They showed up for the meet the candidate night. Can't say the same for the incumbents.
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