Mililani Mauka man kills wife and son...

Mililani Mauka man kills wife and son, takes own life

There are 187 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jul 3, 2008, titled Mililani Mauka man kills wife and son, takes own life. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

CINDY ELLEN RUSSELL / [email protected] A woman identified herself to Honolulu police yesterday as a relative of one of the residents at 95-1042 Moohele St.

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Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

#22 Jul 3, 2008
Get help wrote:
There is always somebody worse off than you and they are handling things fine. Did you have to kill both your wife and especially your 7-year old son? It is selfish enough to take your own life away from your family, but your spouse's and your son's from their relatives and friends? RIP.
I have been through hell and back many times like most of us all.
If anyone wants to hear about my life I bet it will make many people's problems seem like a picnic in the park. As for as this bad economy this makes the third time around for me, but I'm still here.
In life we have problems, but that does not make us kill our family and children. People just have to stay strong because life is up and down for ever. The Marine Corp has a saying.
"Just suck it up." Well, I hope I said that right?:)
Without hell there can be no heaven so got a problem then get help. 9286
Exasperation

Hilo, HI

#24 Jul 3, 2008
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, or maybe it was that crazy hip-hop music! I bet he played video games too!
Well, there seems to be a rash of murder-suicides across the country. Prescription anti-depressants mess directly with your brain chemistry. I have heard theories in which common drugs like prozac could be linked to suicidal/homocidal behavior.

On the contrary, I think music/violent video games/movies are a great emotional outlet and might actually prevent this behavior.
Exasperation

Hilo, HI

#25 Jul 3, 2008
Oops..."homicidal"
Dave

AOL

#26 Jul 3, 2008
Our hearts cry out , please pray for all. Such a waste of life! We did not know them, but our hearts our heavy.
Exasperation

Hilo, HI

#27 Jul 3, 2008
Moa Kaka wrote:
Hawaii doesn't take domestic violence seriously. And it's the PEOPLE of Hawaii, the average citizens, who are to blame and deserve the guilt. Remember Abraham Fu? He shot his girlfriend in the head, yet the idiot jury (composed of "the people") convicted him of manslaughter instead of murder. At the time, the idiot legislature (elected by "the people") made the crime punishable by a whopping FIVE years in prison.
Remember "Boy" Carvalho? He beat his wife to death by breaking every bone in her body. Again, the idiot jury (made up of "the people") convicted him of manslaughter instead of murder. He was released after serving less than 10 years. Then, he went on to abuse his next girlfriend.
"The people" of Hawaii are idiots and deserve to live in a violent, unsafe place. We are reaping what we sow, and we deserve it. If you don't believe that, then wake up, vote for better politicians, take jury duty seriously, and lose the "ainokea" attitude.
Bravo! I agree. Bring back the death penalty. Three strikes and you are all the way out.
OKI DOKI

Irving, TX

#28 Jul 3, 2008
You would think with all the domestic violence the court system would be harsh on those who committ it, but thier not. You could be a repeated offender in the double digits and only get minimal jail time of maybe 30 days and be sent to anger management over and over again. Thats why the victim does'nt report it. The courts dont consider serious until the victim has been killed, by that time it's to late. My son has been to court numerous times for domestic violence and I pray they give him jail time to teach him a lesson but, I walk out of the court room shaken my head at the system.
Honoluluman

Honolulu, HI

#29 Jul 3, 2008
Exasperation wrote:
<quoted text>
Bravo! I agree. Bring back the death penalty. Three strikes and you are all the way out.
How would "three strikes" have prevented this tragic case? Neither would the death penalty have prevented this. You should think through your opinions before expressing them.
Mad Duck

Honolulu, HI

#30 Jul 3, 2008
Couldn't bear a future of shameful homelessness on the beach and took the easy way out. Can't live with failure. Gonna become a common story in the future readings.
Exasperation

Hilo, HI

#31 Jul 3, 2008
Honoluluman wrote:
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How would "three strikes" have prevented this tragic case? Neither would the death penalty have prevented this. You should think through your opinions before expressing them.
I was addressing Moa Kaka concerns about lenient prison sentences.

As for preventing this event, see my previous comments on prescription drugs. Also, habitual felons, which include those who commit domestic violence will have to answer to tougher laws.
HomiTuba

Las Vegas, NV

#32 Jul 3, 2008
anonymous wrote:
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Yeah, or maybe it was that crazy hip-hop music! I bet he played video games too!


Wow, I have not heard that one for a while!
Bob_Mililani

Normal, IL

#33 Jul 3, 2008
Very sad for the James family. However, most of you posters need to get a grip. Blaming his deed on the ills of society or any other cause you can come up with is just plain wrong. Mr. James alone is responsible for his action, and inability to cope with life's problems is not a good reason for this kind of violence. Many members of our society today, need to return to the mindset of taking responsibility for their actions instead of finding fault elsewhere. This would include many of those that made comments to this news report.
Hawaiian808

Kihei, HI

#34 Jul 3, 2008
High cost of living, job difficulties all lead to depression. Too bad this is happening to families around the islands or country for that matter. Turn to GOD, only he can help, TRUST!!
Crime Psyc

Honolulu, HI

#35 Jul 3, 2008
A deeper psychological problem: depression, guilt, unforgiveness, and finally oppression. Probably but unlikely.
Old Hawaiian

Wailuku, HI

#36 Jul 3, 2008
Moa Kaka wrote:
Hawaii doesn't take domestic violence seriously. And it's the PEOPLE of Hawaii, the average citizens, who are to blame and deserve the guilt. Remember Abraham Fu? He shot his girlfriend in the head, yet the idiot jury (composed of "the people") convicted him of manslaughter instead of murder. At the time, the idiot legislature (elected by "the people") made the crime punishable by a whopping FIVE years in prison.
Remember "Boy" Carvalho? He beat his wife to death by breaking every bone in her body. Again, the idiot jury (made up of "the people") convicted him of manslaughter instead of murder. He was released after serving less than 10 years. Then, he went on to abuse his next girlfriend.
"The people" of Hawaii are idiots and deserve to live in a violent, unsafe place. We are reaping what we sow, and we deserve it. If you don't believe that, then wake up, vote for better politicians, take jury duty seriously, and lose the "ainokea" attitude.
Well said!

In Hawaii, and elsewhere, personal and social responsibility, integrity, and accountability, are taking a backseat to the "me for me" generation.

And, the current "ainokea" attitude comes from yesterday's "whatever's brah" response to everything.

Unfortunately, this is just the beginning.
Poi Boy

AOL

#37 Jul 3, 2008
Lolo.
HomiTuba

Las Vegas, NV

#38 Jul 3, 2008
Exasperation wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, there seems to be a rash of murder-suicides across the country. Prescription anti-depressants mess directly with your brain chemistry. I have heard theories in which common drugs like prozac could be linked to suicidal/homocidal behavior.
On the contrary, I think music/violent video games/movies are a great emotional outlet and might actually prevent this behavior.
I agree! With your views on music/videogames/movies. Its all fantasy, and all that claim to express reality with the influence through these alternative outlets are just full of it.
Also he was a veteran! hmmmm.....
Old Hawaiian

Wailuku, HI

#39 Jul 3, 2008
Bob_Mililani wrote:
Very sad for the James family. However, most of you posters need to get a grip. Blaming his deed on the ills of society or any other cause you can come up with is just plain wrong. Mr. James alone is responsible for his action, and inability to cope with life's problems is not a good reason for this kind of violence. Many members of our society today, need to return to the mindset of taking responsibility for their actions instead of finding fault elsewhere. This would include many of those that made comments to this news report.
I doubt that most posters are blaming the James incident on societal ills as much as relating it to the degradation of cultural values that effect all of us. Overall, I read the forums on similar articles and see shared frustration. We worry about our families, and wonder how our children will survive and prosper. I believe these forums are a healthy community outlet where we cope with common issues.
WestSide

Kailua, HI

#40 Jul 3, 2008
A murder can be made to look like a suicide. I hope they investigate if he owed anyone, if he had debts (not monetary) incurred during service, etc. Or maybe even his wife.

There are ugly people out there who would do anything to pry what they want out of others. Suicide notes can be forced....if your wife and child are threatened???

Think outta the box, folks. Not all things might be what they appear to be.

Seems a little too neat and tidy and buttoned up by a few notes.
Juniper

United States

#41 Jul 3, 2008
many of you are assuming that domestic violence was an ongoing issue in this house and that the wife was partially to blame for this situation. HOW DARE YOU! bob_mililani who stated that Mr. James is 100% at fault is correct. what if he snapped? check out the time line. he killed his wife then his son at least the day before he killed himself - SNAPPED! don't use this tragedy to further political causes. numerous hearts are broken and healing is needed. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIMS!
Exasperation

Hilo, HI

#42 Jul 3, 2008
WestSide wrote:
A murder can be made to look like a suicide. I hope they investigate if he owed anyone, if he had debts (not monetary) incurred during service, etc. Or maybe even his wife.
There are ugly people out there who would do anything to pry what they want out of others. Suicide notes can be forced....if your wife and child are threatened???
Think outta the box, folks. Not all things might be what they appear to be.
Seems a little too neat and tidy and buttoned up by a few notes.
Interesting.

I'm more concerned about that "barricade" situation that occurred the other day. Why exactly did they need to arrest this man? There was no mention of "alleged" crimes committed. Sounded like he was just having a real bad day. If this was not the case, I wish they would say why exactly it was necessary to call out the SWAT team...with no hostages and no apparent threat to anyone.

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