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Disgusted

Braintree, MA

#1 Aug 15, 2009
I would like peoples opinion on this situation.
There is a girl from Wilton who borrowed a car from a friend of hers. She had an accident with the car. She rear ended someone in traffic. There was 1500 dollars worth of damage. The girl had no money, so the young man who owned the car paid to have it fixed so he could continue to go to work.
The girl agreed to cover the costs with periodic payments, and made an initial payment of 200 dollars. However, its almost a year later and she has made no effort to repay any more of the debt. The young man who owns the car had to borrow the money to fix it, and he has since paid that money back to the person he borrowed it from.
Her reason for not paying is that since it was an accident, and she didnt mean to do it, she shouldnt have to pay for it. The fact that her friend who was not responsible for the accident lost 1300 dollars doesnt seem to make any difference. Unbelieveably, and to make matters worse, apparently her mother shares her view. She says her daughter should not have to pay for the damage she caused when she borrowed her friends car because it was an accident, and why should she lose out 1300 because of something that she didnt do on purpose.
This girl and her mother are known to many people in Wilton, and Im sure that most people would be surprised at their conclusion that they should not have to pay.
I would like to know what other peoples opinions on this are.
What do you think?
If someone did 1500 dollars damage to your car and it was their fault would you expect to get paid?
If you did 1500 dollars damage to your friends car would you pay for it?
Would you ever come up with such an excuse to avoid responsibility?
What is your view of the parent who endorses this behavior?
This young man was just trying to be nice to this girl. They were friends and got along, and she wanted do borow his car to do an errand for herself.
The damage has been repaired, the bill was paid, and the person who loaned him the money was paid back in full. The only person who hasnt done her part is the girl who caused the accident in the first place.
What do you think? Is her excuse valid? What about her mom's sense of responsibilty?
Harold

Windham, NH

#2 Aug 15, 2009
Wow. I dont even know where to begin with these people. What was this girl thinking? Does she really think her excuse works? Does her mother really believe that her daughter is NOT responsible for repaying this kid back for the damage she did to his car? He was DOING HER A FAVOR AND SHE SCREWED HIM. And her mother is party to it?
I for one would really like to know who these people are, so I can inform my friends and family to stay the hell away from them. What a crappy thing to do to a friend. It never ceases to amaze me what the depths that some people will sink to are. If I borrowed anyone's car, friend or not, and I damaged it I would be responsible for the damages to it. Anyone would. And if I loaned my car to one of my friends and it got damaged, I would never even consider the idea that they would not pay for it. OF COURSE THEY WOULD. He gave this girl the option of paying him over time and she couldn't even do that? She sounds like a real winner.
I would go insane if this happened to me.
How about the court system? Cant he take her to small claims court?
As a parent, I cannot begin to imagine what her mother is thinking by giving her daughter validation for her lame excuse. This is awful.
What an awful way to behave towards a friend. The original post is correct, this disgusts me.
Harold

Windham, NH

#3 Aug 16, 2009
I thought about the first post today, and I dont think the term "irresponsible people" is accurate.
I think the term scumbag is accurate.
Anonymous

Circleville, OH

#5 Aug 16, 2009
I support this post.
Disgusted

Braintree, MA

#6 Aug 17, 2009
Harold wrote:
Wow. I dont even know where to begin with these people. What was this girl thinking? Does she really think her excuse works? Does her mother really believe that her daughter is NOT responsible for repaying this kid back for the damage she did to his car? He was DOING HER A FAVOR AND SHE SCREWED HIM. And her mother is party to it?
I for one would really like to know who these people are, so I can inform my friends and family to stay the hell away from them. What a crappy thing to do to a friend. It never ceases to amaze me what the depths that some people will sink to are. If I borrowed anyone's car, friend or not, and I damaged it I would be responsible for the damages to it. Anyone would. And if I loaned my car to one of my friends and it got damaged, I would never even consider the idea that they would not pay for it. OF COURSE THEY WOULD. He gave this girl the option of paying him over time and she couldn't even do that? She sounds like a real winner.
I would go insane if this happened to me.
How about the court system? Cant he take her to small claims court?
As a parent, I cannot begin to imagine what her mother is thinking by giving her daughter validation for her lame excuse. This is awful.
What an awful way to behave towards a friend. The original post is correct, this disgusts me.
It is a strange situation, to say the least. So far, everyone we have spoken to feels the same way. Obviously no one thinks this excuse is valid. But it is typical of people her age. Thats why her mom should have stepped in and reinforced the idea of being responsible and doing what is right. Apparently the mother has no sense of responsibility herself, which is probably why the daughter has no clue. However, some people who behave this way know perfectly well what it is thery are supposed to do, but selfishness and immaturity prevent them from doing so.
It may seem like a huge sum of money to an 18 or 19 year old, however if she had paid just 30 bucks a week it would have been paid by now. Its too bad she chose to take the cowards way out and avoid her debt owed to her friend.
Imaginwe how the poor kid who owned the car must feel. He was just being nice to his friend by letting her use his car to go somewhere. She walked away from her friend for 1300 dollars. It makes you wonder what else she would do for money.
And it wasnt even 1300 all at once. It was small payments over a period of time. She even made an initial 200 payment, so initially she knew that she was responsible. It was only after she thought about how much fun she would miss out on by not having the pocket money that she decided that the rules of right and wrong needed to change so she could have what she wanted.
And again, there is the mother. Another mom who simply sides with her child no matter how wrong they are. This strategy doesnt raise responsible adults, it creates immature and selfish adults which te rest of us will have to live and work with, and probably support as well.
PPL

Braintree, MA

#7 Aug 17, 2009
Two words. Dooosh bag.
ENEP

Bilston, UK

#8 Aug 18, 2009
So why should he have to have payed if none of it, was his fault?
Anonymous

Redditch, UK

#9 Aug 18, 2009
What happened to the insurance?
Steve in Windham

Nashua, NH

#11 Aug 18, 2009
ENEP wrote:
So why should he have to have payed if none of it, was his fault?
Thats the point, it WAS her fault. She rear ended someone in traffic. It was totally her fault. The post says that she thinks that because she didnt do it on purpose she shouldnt have to pay, and thats wrong. If I break something that doesnt belong to me, I am responsible for replacing it, whether it was an accident or not.
This girl is immature and dishonest, and her mother is no better.
Can we get a name for this stupid bitch? I would like to call her and her mother and let them know what pieces of crap they are.
Harold

Windham, NH

#12 Aug 18, 2009
ENEP wrote:
So why should he have to have payed if none of it, was his fault?
He had to pay because she didnt have any money. He paid to get the car fixed, and she was going to pay him back over time. His insurance didnt cover the damage to his car because he had liability but not collision. So he had to pay to get it fixed, and she was supposed to pay him back the money because it was her fault. But she went back on her agreement. She broke her word. And her mom didnt correct her, she went along with it.
Pretty disgusting if you ask me.
Karl

Vancouver, WA

#13 Aug 18, 2009
Lawyer up. Should be a open and shut case, so long as she has some sort of written agreement. Verbal might be more problematic, but if the accident was reported, then they have proof she was on the scene and the responsible party.
Anonymous

Dunnsville, VA

#14 Aug 18, 2009
What a stupid little twat, a waste of life and space. Okay honestly people, when you do something stupid, own up to your mistakes. I can't stand it when little pieces of human trash get away with shit like this. I'm amazed he didn't take this to court, his friend was so willing to screw him over, why shouldn't he screw her over? Get a thousand or so in interest + the 1300$? I can't believe the authorities would even let shit like this happen. It's really sad...

~ Anonymous
Anon

Daytona Beach, FL

#15 Aug 19, 2009
It's the car owners fault for letting an idiot use his car without having full coverage insurance.
Harold

Windham, NH

#16 Aug 20, 2009
Anon wrote:
It's the car owners fault for letting an idiot use his car without having full coverage insurance.
It was stupid of him to loan out his car, but that does not absolve her of responsibility.
And, as has been explained before, full coverage was NOT an option.
This girl and her mother are immature and selfish.
bavis

Ottawa, Canada

#17 Aug 20, 2009
Well, then I suspect we're going to have to let a bunch of people out of prison because I'm sure that most people don't mean to kill, rape, rob, steal or anything like that.

I really worry about people, personal responsibility is NOT negotiable. If you do something bad, it doesn't change anything if you didn't mean to do it. It's been done, deal with it.

I absolutely HATE people that shrug off responsibility... almost as much as I HATE people that subborn that type of behaviour. These people don't deserve a bit of consideration.
alf

Denver, CO

#18 Aug 20, 2009
You know there is this thing called the Legal system where you can deal with people like this. Just take her small claims court and sue her for court costs plus any damages due to her non-payment and lack of compliance with their original verbal agreement. Verbal agreements are often binding and if she was the vehicle operator during an accident then she is subject to State law regarding liability.
She's a jerk, but so what?! You're going to run into (pun intended!)lots of those and you can't let the idiots of the world take up too much of your time. Life is short. Sue her ass and be done with it.
Anon

Temple, TX

#19 Aug 20, 2009
Just so you know, the guy whose car got screwed up is soliciting Internet attacks on the girl and her mom.
Harold

Windham, NH

#20 Aug 21, 2009
Anon wrote:
Just so you know, the guy whose car got screwed up is soliciting Internet attacks on the girl and her mom.
Hey stupid, no names have been posted.
Over react much?

“Think globally, act locally...”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#21 Aug 30, 2009
Legally they idiot child and her mother don't have a leg to stand on. Yay, Mom, way to go to raise a child with no responsibility whatsoever for her actions.

Tell the owner of the car to collect up his documentation and file in small claims. He'll get a judgment against them and can collect then, once they've been told by the Law that they are wrong. They still may not believe it, but at least then he has a chance at recovery.

Way too many people like this these days.... Now I know where they are coming from (and I don't mean Wilton).
Disgusted wrote:
I would like peoples opinion on this situation.
There is a girl from Wilton who borrowed a car from a friend of hers. She had an accident with the car. She rear ended someone in traffic. There was 1500 dollars worth of damage. The girl had no money, so the young man who owned the car paid to have it fixed so he could continue to go to work.
The girl agreed to cover the costs with periodic payments, and made an initial payment of 200 dollars. However, its almost a year later and she has made no effort to repay any more of the debt. The young man who owns the car had to borrow the money to fix it, and he has since paid that money back to the person he borrowed it from.
Her reason for not paying is that since it was an accident, and she didnt mean to do it, she shouldnt have to pay for it. The fact that her friend who was not responsible for the accident lost 1300 dollars doesnt seem to make any difference. Unbelieveably, and to make matters worse, apparently her mother shares her view. She says her daughter should not have to pay for the damage she caused when she borrowed her friends car because it was an accident, and why should she lose out 1300 because of something that she didnt do on purpose.
This girl and her mother are known to many people in Wilton, and Im sure that most people would be surprised at their conclusion that they should not have to pay.
I would like to know what other peoples opinions on this are.
What do you think?
If someone did 1500 dollars damage to your car and it was their fault would you expect to get paid?
If you did 1500 dollars damage to your friends car would you pay for it?
Would you ever come up with such an excuse to avoid responsibility?
What is your view of the parent who endorses this behavior?
This young man was just trying to be nice to this girl. They were friends and got along, and she wanted do borow his car to do an errand for herself.
The damage has been repaired, the bill was paid, and the person who loaned him the money was paid back in full. The only person who hasnt done her part is the girl who caused the accident in the first place.
What do you think? Is her excuse valid? What about her mom's sense of responsibilty?

“Think globally, act locally...”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#22 Aug 30, 2009
If she rearended someone insurance doesn't cover, as the driver (the idiot girl) of the car is responsible - unless it was an equipment malfunction that the owner of the car knew about at the time he let her borrow the car and didn't tell her. But it seems to me that she's the irresponsible one here, and not him.

Yeah, I'd like to know who she is too. I live in the area and would like to know who to avoid, and have my kids avoid as well.
Anonymous wrote:
What happened to the insurance?

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