whats happened to milan baseball?

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baseball mom

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#1 Mar 11, 2010
my son is in the 9-10 year old group. When my older son played we always won, and did well. Now we dont seem to do as well.my son said today that they have never beat martin, and some other teams. is our program falling apart? just wondering
former baseball mom

Greenfield, TN

#2 Mar 11, 2010
My two sons played baseball for years in Milan and yes we did beat Martin! Many times! Yes, the program is falling apart and in my opinion it is because of travel ball. Why parents think their children face better competition playing travel ball is beyond me! You get plenty of good competition in local towns with local players. Proof, how many years has it been since a MHS baseball team been REALLY good? The last time I remember it was with young men that only played ball in Milan programs!
baseball dude

Trenton, TN

#3 Mar 13, 2010
problem solved... parents these day get TOOO involved witht heir children and coaching.. theres a reason why a coach gets paid to do his job. ask him what he thinks the kids coming up in his program should do..
Buster

Union City, TN

#4 Mar 17, 2010
Maybe the local players were better when your older son played. The same teams don't win every year in any sport, even professional & college sports. There are peaks & valleys. Some years you have more quality players than other years. It's just a fact of life. If you want your son's team now to get better, then get your son to improve by working and practicing harder. The great players are able to make the players around them better by leading by example. It's not an automatic thing, it takes a lot of hard work & dedication. And don't kid yourself there are some good ball players from surrounding towns and they are trying to win too.
Hillarious

Cookeville, TN

#5 Mar 29, 2010
former baseball mom wrote:
My two sons played baseball for years in Milan and yes we did beat Martin! Many times! Yes, the program is falling apart and in my opinion it is because of travel ball. Why parents think their children face better competition playing travel ball is beyond me! You get plenty of good competition in local towns with local players. Proof, how many years has it been since a MHS baseball team been REALLY good? The last time I remember it was with young men that only played ball in Milan programs!
Both Milan and Martin have fielded good teams...the test isn't against each other dear lady. Travel ball does afford the better athletes to play against each other. The players that are attempting to get into a bigger college for baseball, for the MAJORITY have to play more games through out the summer. The HS programs go for about 2 to 2 1/2 months....maybe not the 9-10 year old divisions, but the older leagues do.
sock monkey

Jackson, TN

#6 Apr 1, 2010
Travel ball is ruining baseball. Kids are pushed hard by amateur coaches and obsessed parents. Those who don't suffer avoidable injuries get burned out and stop playing the first chance they get.John Smoltz and other pros have recently spoken out on this subject. Little League is a joke now. The parents can't get the season over fast enough so All-Stars can get started. Small towns try to field more than one All-Star team. Give kids a break! Make it fun again! Don't force your kids to be what you wish you were. How many kids get scholarships or make the pros? You've got a better chance for free college with the books.
Monkey rumor

Union City, TN

#7 Apr 13, 2010
The sock monkey is a wise one.
sock monkey wrote:
Travel ball is ruining baseball. Kids are pushed hard by amateur coaches and obsessed parents. Those who don't suffer avoidable injuries get burned out and stop playing the first chance they get.John Smoltz and other pros have recently spoken out on this subject. Little League is a joke now. The parents can't get the season over fast enough so All-Stars can get started. Small towns try to field more than one All-Star team. Give kids a break! Make it fun again! Don't force your kids to be what you wish you were. How many kids get scholarships or make the pros? You've got a better chance for free college with the books.
Horsie

Jackson, TN

#8 Apr 14, 2010
Travel ball has not ruined baseball. It has upped the skill level though. Both my kids have voluntarily wanted to play travel ball because it is more competitive. You learn more through doing. When you play at least 4-6 games per weekend, you do improve your skills, especially when you are playing with others that are at your skill level or better. League ball is fine to learn the basic skills, but that is it. There are kids that want to learn more that just the basics. Dont blame them or their parents for ruining baseball.

Since: May 10

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#9 May 4, 2010
I think that there are pro's and con's to travel ball, and those that enjoy it and those that may not. It is the same way with the softball league this year. Many girls have left the league to do travel ball, bringing down the league signup and # of teams, but there are still some very talented players playing in the leagues as well. If a child wants to play travel then I think it could be a great way to hone their skills and be more competitive, but I feel to push a child into it is more for the parents benefit. The kids can have as much fun and learn through the traditional leagues just as well as travel if they are interested in doing so. My own daughter did not want to do travel because of the time that is put into it, but she is a very good player and loves the game. To me it is sad to see the city leagues suffer however because of the parents that make their children play travel because they feel that it makes them "special" or will open more doors for them down the line. The players will be or will not have a future based on their individuals skills and dedication, not based on who they played for when they were 10 years old. Right now they should be having fun, and learning in the process, but not have their future's planned out based on baseball or softball.

Since: May 10

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#10 Sep 9, 2010
I have to take back my original post....after our daughter approached us with wanting to find a travel team we started looking into this and found a very good travel team for her to play on. She has learned more with this team than she has in 5 seasons with the city league. I am not downing the city league, for kid that want to play and have fun it is great, and they will learn the basics, however for kids that want to continue playing thru school and beyond and really want to learn the insides of the game, traval ball presents that opportunity. She loves her travel team and they work her, and she learns, and she has improved so much. Both city ball and travel ball have their benefits, it really just depends on how dedicated the child is to the game which route you should take.
chris

Jackson, TN

#11 Sep 9, 2010
Horsie wrote:
Travel ball has not ruined baseball. It has upped the skill level though. Both my kids have voluntarily wanted to play travel ball because it is more competitive. You learn more through doing. When you play at least 4-6 games per weekend, you do improve your skills, especially when you are playing with others that are at your skill level or better. League ball is fine to learn the basic skills, but that is it. There are kids that want to learn more that just the basics. Dont blame them or their parents for ruining baseball.


I totally agree

Since: Sep 10

Jackson, TN

#12 Sep 9, 2010
i coached for 15 years in all the local leagues in milan. most of the players on milan's 2004 state championship team, i coached in some form or fashion. either on my league teams or my all-star teams. so the local talent is there. the secret to making a good ballplayer is not just teaching them how to play, but teaching them how to WIN. travel ball is a good thing but IMO it is a shooting star that will eventually burn out and the parents and kids will come back to local league ball. history always repeats itself. heck i'm wearing bellbottoms again.
just facts

Laconia, TN

#13 Sep 9, 2010
baseball mom wrote:
my son is in the 9-10 year old group. When my older son played we always won, and did well. Now we dont seem to do as well.my son said today that they have never beat martin, and some other teams. is our program falling apart? just wondering
Milan 9-10 year olds beat Martin 9-10 year olds in Milan invitational this year!!!!Milan 9-10 year olds who palyed tournaments in Union City and Trenton beat Martin. I don't know where you were, but I was there.
parent

United States

#14 Sep 9, 2010
Actually Milan 10 year olds beat Martin 9 year olds. Martin 9 year olds beat the Milan 9 year old team. Martin and Milan both had 2 teams.
ummmmmm

Jackson, TN

#15 Sep 9, 2010
parent wrote:
Actually Milan 10 year olds beat Martin 9 year olds. Martin 9 year olds beat the Milan 9 year old team. Martin and Milan both had 2 teams.
Actually it was the 9/10 year olds that beat Martin in Milan Invitational and at UC...before the team was split up by someone who was only thinking of their own kid and not caring about the 9/10 yer old team that was the real "ALL-STARS"..I repeat, I was there..where were you?
parent

United States

#16 Sep 9, 2010
Keeping the score! The Milan 10 year olds who were coached by Paul Thomas beat the Martin 9 year olds. At that point their were only 10 year old kids on the Milan team. I can't speak for the Martin 10 year olds but I do know that Martin 9 year olds beat the team coached by Jason Williams twice. It is silly to dispute the winners both teams played hard and had great players!!
ummmmmm

Jackson, TN

#17 Sep 9, 2010
Not disputing any winners and you are right. There were good players on both teams. Point is, there should have only been one team, not two. The real all-star team was a great team. If that team had not been split up by whomever, I am sure they would have won the state championship. The person responsible for the split should never be allowed to coach another team..
fed up

Martin, TN

#18 Sep 9, 2010
Really are we still talking about Allstars & the 2 teams? Does it really matter that much? To state the facts, the BOARD decided to have 2 teams not just 1 single person. The teams that played (from all the towns), all played really hard & should be given credit. Its not about what age they were or who coached them. Adults tend to forget that its about these boys & not about them.
Stacy

Martin, TN

#19 Sep 9, 2010
ummmmmm wrote:
Not disputing any winners and you are right. There were good players on both teams. Point is, there should have only been one team, not two. The real all-star team was a great team. If that team had not been split up by whomever, I am sure they would have won the state championship. The person responsible for the split should never be allowed to coach another team..
Point blank period..that is your opinion, & I will say that you are clearly a very bored & ignorant person to still be harping on the fact there was 2 teams! These are 9 & 10 year old kids not major league baseball players with contracts...no guarantees from game to game on how they would play. So to blame it on a splitting of the teams just shows how ignorant you really are.
What

Jackson, TN

#20 Sep 9, 2010
Stacy wrote:
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Point blank period..that is your opinion, & I will say that you are clearly a very bored & ignorant person to still be harping on the fact there was 2 teams! These are 9 & 10 year old kids not major league baseball players with contracts...no guarantees from game to game on how they would play. So to blame it on a splitting of the teams just shows how ignorant you really are.
This makes no sense.

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