Missing Va. Girl Alive, Man In Custody

Dec 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: FoxNews.com

Brittany Mae Smith, 12, of Virginia was found unharmed Dec. 10, four days after her mother was found dead.

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The case that Jeepers is referring to is Joseph Edward Duncan III. That case and this case isn't linked, and is, if possible, even more disturbing than this case.
Joseph Edward Duncan III was a stranger to the family, unlike this case.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-08-2...
He has received 3 death penalty convictions and 9 life sentences.
If the case was never solved, how do you know the suspect to this murder wasn't like that. Just how many perps are out there like Duncan? Do you remember the case of the Shreeves in Marion, who left a girl for dead in the park? He followed a woman in North Carolina home from where she worked at a convenience store and went in and killed her--he didn't even know her. He just followed an unsuspecting person home. I've been stalked, if I hadn't known they were stalking, I wouldn't have paid attention, just the average person wouldn't look around them.
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The case that Jeepers is referring to is Joseph Edward Duncan III. That case and this case isn't linked, and is, if possible, even more disturbing than this case.
Joseph Edward Duncan III was a stranger to the family, unlike this case.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-08-2...
He has received 3 death penalty convictions and 9 life sentences.


Did the suspect know the family? I never read that in the Shortt case. but like this case and Duncans. There was one in Georgia that made the news, a guy killed his entire family, I would question how?
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This was not a kidnapping and the man should be charged with lesser crimes. We should all wait until the real story comes out. Meantime there is a kidnapper/murderor in Virginia. It has been ten years since Alicia Showalter Reynolds was kidnapped and found murdered. Okay yes there were some very mysterious disappearances in Virginia particular from the Richmond corrider to Virginia Beach. The neice of my sister-in-law was one of them. She and her boyfriend were murdered.
Did they ever find theAt one time there was a killer, they thought passed himself of as a cop. Wasn't he the one whom they thought was catching his victims at rest areas.
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This thread seems have questions about victims like the mother in Roanoke--did she victimize herself and her daughter---and was the daughter solely and completely a victim.
As I read I see that the posts are "rounding" on these questions, repeating and repeating because we know so little.
About another victim,
I remember hearing about the Texas man looking for work in VA---car found at the Breaks, but could you tell me where the body was actually found or the year so I can google it?
We had locals who went down to the Gulf area to work with oil and oil-related jobs and when the jobs went, they would come back here. Did one of our locals bring this young man back with him?
About trucks, I just googled and found that the white stake-bed truck possibly parked near the Jennifer Short home in Bassett was about a '98 to a 2002 model.
It seems to my memory that the Breaks story and the coalfield boy's disappearance date back that far also.

In 1998 a young woman disappeared from the Bristol area, they recently found her remains. The cops wrote her off as a runaway. It's looks better on paperwork than having to actually do anything.That's the problem with most police forces. The cops can only work on the cases they're allowed to,doesn't it make you wonder why ? With the corruption.
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There is going to be a special run in the Bristol Herald Courier about some of the disappearances, and the unsolved murders. They are going to run it like a serial on certain days. It sure will make the paper more interesting.
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Did they ever find theAt one time there was a killer, they thought passed himself of as a cop. Wasn't he the one whom they thought was catching his victims at rest areas.
That was the one killing the women. I don't think he bothered with couples. How ever there was one who did kill couples, don't remember if he was ever caught or not, that was in the 80's he's probably dead of old age now. He was up in the tidewater area and in some part of Maryland...We had one in Bristol whom tried to pass himself off as a cop, he was driving an oldsmobile, they never caught him but he tried to pull a woman over and she outrun him, think she went to the police station.
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people are so sick some time!!

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people are so sick some time!!
i had a real bad cold last week
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There is going to be a special run in the Bristol Herald Courier about some of the disappearances, and the unsolved murders. They are going to run it like a serial on certain days. It sure will make the paper more interesting.
I hope they run the one from Johnson County, neighbor of both Sullivan Co. Tennessee and Washington Co. Virginia where Bristol, VA is. A man left a pool hall-beer joint in Dec. of 1998 in a white Subaru Justy and neither he nor his car have been seen since.
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In 1998 a young woman disappeared from the Bristol area, they recently found her remains. The cops wrote her off as a runaway. It's looks better on paperwork than having to actually do anything.That's the problem with most police forces. The cops can only work on the cases they're allowed to,doesn't it make you wonder why ? With the corruption.
I don't remember this one so that is another reason to watch for the Bristol Herald series.

Down near Martinsville the Jennifer Short kidnapping-killing and killing of her parents was in summer of 2002. It takes a sick and crazy person to kidnap and kill.

It would be a relief to find that the disappearances and deaths west of Martinsville are connected to each other---that would mean fewer crazies out there. I wonder if the Short killer stayed in the area or kept moving.
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I don't remember this one so that is another reason to watch for the Bristol Herald series.
Down near Martinsville the Jennifer Short kidnapping-killing and killing of her parents was in summer of 2002. It takes a sick and crazy person to kidnap and kill.
It would be a relief to find that the disappearances and deaths west of Martinsville are connected to each other---that would mean fewer crazies out there. I wonder if the Short killer stayed in the area or kept moving.

If you think about it, most of them move around but come back to the same area, not all do but most. The case of Bundy, and the other serial killers, most were transients in nature. That is why they are so hard to catch. We need a thread away from this one, on the topic of missing persons in the area and as much information. You already know about the area, Bristol, washington county, sullivan and other area counties. Our police, who aren't in some crooks pocket in this area, are totally useless, they don't believe in serial killers. From what I've seen in the news over the years, they really don't care if their victims are male or female. And if the popo can possibly write it off as suicide they will or runaway, it saves the effort and time, plus it doesn't take much paperwork.
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I don't remember this one so that is another reason to watch for the Bristol Herald series.
Down near Martinsville the Jennifer Short kidnapping-killing and killing of her parents was in summer of 2002. It takes a sick and crazy person to kidnap and kill.
It would be a relief to find that the disappearances and deaths west of Martinsville are connected to each other---that would mean fewer crazies out there. I wonder if the Short killer stayed in the area or kept moving.
They found the remains a few months ago. Wouldn't much about it except her grandmother said she knowed her granddaughter didn't leave, something was wrong. It was in the Bristol paper.
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Its been a long time ago,but didn't they find the Shortt girls body down in North Carolina? We do need to start a topic, away from this one,we're off topic here and I'd like to hear just how many victims there really are and have comments from their family and friends.
we have somebody on here who judges and seems to object to any information.
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There is a topic on this subject, now we won't be off topic and intimidating somebody. Some people take it personal.
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<quoted text> If the case was never solved, how do you know the suspect to this murder wasn't like that. Just how many perps are out there like Duncan? Do you remember the case of the Shreeves in Marion, who left a girl for dead in the park? He followed a woman in North Carolina home from where she worked at a convenience store and went in and killed her--he didn't even know her. He just followed an unsuspecting person home. I've been stalked, if I hadn't known they were stalking, I wouldn't have paid attention, just the average person wouldn't look around them.
his name was reeves and he snuck off from work in marion and done his dirty work then snuck back
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i am lost where did this happen
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i am lost where did this happen
The murder happened when he was in the marines down in North Carolina, the attempted murder happened at a park near marion va. He cut the girls throat, and left her for dead, she crawled up a bank where he dumped her and survived the attack to id him. then they later connected him to the murder in N.C.That happened back in the late 80's or early 90's.
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<quoted text> If the case was never solved, how do you know the suspect to this murder wasn't like that. Just how many perps are out there like Duncan? Do you remember the case of the Shreeves in Marion, who left a girl for dead in the park? He followed a woman in North Carolina home from where she worked at a convenience store and went in and killed her--he didn't even know her. He just followed an unsuspecting person home. I've been stalked, if I hadn't known they were stalking, I wouldn't have paid attention, just the average person wouldn't look around them.
This case hasn't been solved, yet, because it hasn't gone to trial. I suspect the DA and the police are trying to make sure they have all the right evidence as the state goes to great lengths to make sure we convict the right person.

I don't know that it wasn't this guy or not, but if they have him in custody, I suspect they feel they have the right guy. That doesn't mean that he is or isn't. Trust me when I say that I don't always trust what the police or government says. Remember, one innocent in jail means that there is one criminal out there roaming free to commit more crimes.
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Jeepers wrote:
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If you think about it, most of them move around but come back to the same area, not all do but most. The case of Bundy, and the other serial killers, most were transients in nature. That is why they are so hard to catch. We need a thread away from this one, on the topic of missing persons in the area and as much information. You already know about the area, Bristol, washington county, sullivan and other area counties. Our police, who aren't in some crooks pocket in this area, are totally useless, they don't believe in serial killers. From what I've seen in the news over the years, they really don't care if their victims are male or female. And if the popo can possibly write it off as suicide they will or runaway, it saves the effort and time, plus it doesn't take much paperwork.
Bundy wasn't a transient until he was caught, that is when he went to Colorado, where a woman got away, he got caught again, and escaped. That is when he went to Florida.

Serial killers are either transient or geographically stable. Gary Ridgeway,(green river murderer)he stayed in the Seattle area, and was questioned once (and was even married.) The same can be said for Dennis Rader (BTK,) it wasn't until his narcissistic nature came out until he got caught. That guy in Detroit that killed all those women, same thing. Aileen Wuornos stayed in the central FLA area. I could go on with serial killers that stay close to home.

That is not to say that there aren't some vagabonds, or transients that serial killers. Danny Rollins (The Gainsville ripper) committed crimes/ murders in two different states. Henry Lee Lucas and Otis Tool also moved around a lot claiming to have murdered up to 600 people.

So you see, you can't make a blanket statement that serial killers are transient by nature.

Now if you want to make the argument that the police in the area don't want to admit that there is a serial killer on the loose in the area because it may make them look incompetent, then that is a different argument all together. We don't have all the information on this particular case, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions. One thing, the girl is 11, and cannot "consent" under Virginian law.
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Did the suspect know the family? I never read that in the Shortt case. but like this case and Duncans. There was one in Georgia that made the news, a guy killed his entire family, I would question how?
From what I understand, no. Just like the Petit Family Murders it was a case of wrong person going to the wrong place. A horribly senseless random act of violence.

I keep posting this, we should reserve judgment until all the evidence is laid out.

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