Crumpled Up Flags at DMV: Richmond ma...

Crumpled Up Flags at DMV: Richmond man upset after seeing US & Virg...

There are 177 comments on the WTVR story from Jun 8, 2010, titled Crumpled Up Flags at DMV: Richmond man upset after seeing US & Virg.... In it, WTVR reports that:

A Richmond man is upset with the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles after he says he saw both the American flag and the flag of Virginia crumpled up together on a counter inside a DMV customer service branch.

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Steve

Tempe, AZ

#21 Jun 8, 2010
I respect the flag and the military, but please remember it is a symbol of what we are fighting for. our efforts should be focused on the families and the men who serve. the confederate flag is also a symbol, and a divisive one that can cause violence. Many in the world, even many in our own country may not show the respect for symbols we cherish, and it is their right to do so. to create a schism over a symbols insults those that mad it symbolic...PEOPLE FIRST
SirRantsAlot

Richmond, VA

#22 Jun 8, 2010
Eric Capek wrote:
I appreciate the comments relative to this story. I do agree, in retrospect, I should have addressed the security guard directly; however, I was informed of similar instances going on at other government locations. I hope that after this story was aired, the directive encompassing all DMV locations will be reiterated and adhered.
Yes, you may burn the flag as part of your freedom of speech, which countless men and women whom fought and died under this very flag afforded to you. Nevertheless, agencies, departments, bureaus, etc. of the government are not granted "freedom of speech" individuals are. The DMV holds no official political stance, party affiliation, etcetera, and therefore, that argument is devoid of substance.
Lastly, concerning the comments regarding this story being a waste of time and that I could have managed my time more efficiently, I disagree, as this is important to many Americans including myself. While taking the picture another customer at DMV commented how shameful it was. I sent several e-mails, which each take approximately 2-3 minutes to compose and send. The reporter contacted me shortly after via phone, the call lasted about another 2 minutes. The interview required no more than 30 minutes, to include travel time, the actual interview, and adjoining conjecture, which I spent on my lunch hour. In all, my time invested required approximately one hour... that is unequivocally incomparable to the sacrifice of those fallen in defense of our American flag. If this was such a waste of time, then commenting on it being so is not itself a “waste” of time?
Thank you kindly,
Eric Capek
Where's the "wild applause" icon when you need it?
voice of experience

Hopewell, VA

#23 Jun 8, 2010
Considering most children are never even taught the Star Spangled Banner in music class anymore in elementary school (If it wasn't for baseball games most would never even hear it)... or ever heard My Country Tis of Thee, how can we expect the next generation to have a clue about how to handle the AMERICAN FLAG?
DStairs

Orange Park, FL

#24 Jun 8, 2010
All i can say is well done Mr Capek.

Since: May 10

Hoschton, GA

#25 Jun 8, 2010
It's a flag, not a God.
Scott

Central District, Hong Kong

#26 Jun 8, 2010
Unfortunately I've seen the same thing at other locations. On Park Avenue in New York one evening about 3 years ago the flag was being lowered in front of Altria (the company that owns Philip Morris - makers of Malboro and other cigarette brands). The flag was lowered by two security guards, partially balled up and put under one man's arm who walked inside while dragging a corner of the flag along the street. I've thought about this from time to time and regret not writing to Altria or complaining. But at least it inspired me to quit smoking. I'm sure Altria too would have blamed their sub-contractors - the security staff --- Just like BP blames Transocean blame Halliburton in the Gulf mess. No accountability.
Sammy

Richmond, VA

#27 Jun 8, 2010
Oh come on wrote:
Does this really belong at the top of the news? Even CNN put it on the first page of their US news.
A flag is crumpled and messed up. So you get another one. Capitalist business profits, and there's a sweet new flag flying at the motor vehicle. Problem solved.
You live right where you should, California,with Nancy and Arnold. Your that type of person that knows something is wrong, you just don't realize it's YOU!
smokingun

Nashville, TN

#28 Jun 8, 2010
dean wrote:
My bet is that the guard has never had anyone tell him what to do to show the flag respect--just like all those clowns who dress up in American flag clothing believing they are being patriotic. How respectful is it to put your butt in a pair of flag shorts and sit on the flag? Not to mention the fact that the U.S. Flag Code clearly says that the flag is never to be used as clothing. So, let's see some indignation this 4th of July when you see the drunk passed out on the beach in his flag swim trunks, or the drunk girl next to him in her flag halter top.
The code forbids an actual flag being used for clothing- not clothing sewn from fabric with red and white stripes and white stars on a blue background. If you ask me, the olympic athletes are more in violation when they wear the flag around their shoulders like a cape than someone who has a few stars and stripes printed on their clothes
GET_OVER_YOURSEL VES

Sandston, VA

#29 Jun 8, 2010
Yes, they should have been treated with more respect - that's evident. But with all the problems in the world, this has to be one of the lowest priorities to worry yourselves about. The security guard doing this has probably never been shown the proper way to raise and lower a flag, much less fold it properly and put it away. If you're so worried and losing sleep at night because of this, why don't you write the DMV again and suggest that they hire someone on the state's payroll that will properly take care of them instead of contracting it out? YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. He's a security guard, not a hallway monitor or honor student at the elementary school.

Geez, I can't believe this is what passes for news today...THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE U.S. PEOPLE!
SUnsan

Omaha, NE

#30 Jun 8, 2010
I wonder how many people even know how to properly fold a flag any longer...???
Homer Gordon USN-R

Southfield, MI

#31 Jun 8, 2010
Thanks Va, this is the thanks I get for serving 22.5 years, so you can disrespect me...thanks
Mom of Two

Midlothian, VA

#32 Jun 8, 2010
dean wrote:
My bet is that the guard has never had anyone tell him what to do to show the flag respect--just like all those clowns who dress up in American flag clothing believing they are being patriotic. How respectful is it to put your butt in a pair of flag shorts and sit on the flag? Not to mention the fact that the U.S. Flag Code clearly says that the flag is never to be used as clothing. So, let's see some indignation this 4th of July when you see the drunk passed out on the beach in his flag swim trunks, or the drunk girl next to him in her flag halter top.
I don't think ignorance is an excuse to treat an american flag like that. My three year old knows how to care for the American Flag.
not a teahead

Atlanta, GA

#33 Jun 8, 2010
This is no BIG friggin deal, crumpled together means in short that america/virginia is struggling to get out of a tea-bag MESS.
Sammy

Richmond, VA

#34 Jun 8, 2010
not a teahead wrote:
This is no BIG friggin deal, crumpled together means in short that america/virginia is struggling to get out of a tea-bag MESS.
Speaking of IGNORANCE
Mew

Bassett, VA

#35 Jun 8, 2010
I am glad to see some are still patriotic in America.

Kudos to Mr. Capek to give a damn, if only more in this country cared. He makes me proud to be a Virginian.

Thank you for your service to our country!

Randy Dowdy

Providence, NC

#36 Jun 8, 2010
Those who don't stand behind our soldiers, please feel free to stand in front of them. Yea, that's what I thought. Whoever is doing this should be fired. There is no reason for them to have a taxpayer funded job if they don't respect the gov't that is paying them!
perrysmama

Saraland, AL

#37 Jun 8, 2010
The flag is a representative of our country, the United States of America. It represents our history: the reason people came here, fought for independence, and have defended our independence through out our nearly 234 years as a nation. Those of us who respect the flag and all that it stands for do not worship it. We are simply giving our attention and respect to all of those who made this country free and prosperous. We are demonstrating our belief that everyone needs to remember the high cost of human lives sacrificed so that we could enjoy life today. I believe many of our problems today stem from a lack of knowledge of history, lack of consideration for others, lack of appreciation for sacrifices others have made on our behalf. Our country is not perfect. Let's look at the flag, remember what it stands for, search out the ideas and values that made us free and prosperous and work towards making this wonderful country an even better place. We can not move forward ignoring the "little things" in life. This may seem insignificant, but it is not. To paraphrase a famous quote: those who do not know history, and do not purposely study it to learn from it, are doomed to repeat it. Freedom takes a very long time to achieve, but a heartbeat to lose.
not a teahead

Atlanta, GA

#38 Jun 8, 2010
Mew wrote:
I am glad to see some are still patriotic in America.
Kudos to Mr. Capek to give a damn, if only more in this country cared. He makes me proud to be a Virginian.
Thank you for your service to our country!
I bet he hates the POTUS, and still calls himself a "true American Patriot" like you. Get off the patriotic mumbo-jumbo thingy.
not a teahead

Atlanta, GA

#39 Jun 8, 2010
Randy Dowdy wrote:
Those who don't stand behind our soldiers, please feel free to stand in front of them. Yea, that's what I thought. Whoever is doing this should be fired. There is no reason for them to have a taxpayer funded job if they don't respect the gov't that is paying them!
Much ado about nothing. Why listen to the crumpled voices of those who hate what the POTUS is doing, now sniff that.
Va Patriot

Glendale, AZ

#40 Jun 8, 2010
Kristina wrote:
Are you kidding me?! Spend your time thinking about something else to complain about buddy.
You are an idiot. What could be more important. more welfare?

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