Crumpled Up Flags at DMV: Richmond man upset after seeing US & Virg...

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A Richmond man is upset with the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles after he says he saw both the American flag and the flag of Virginia crumpled up together on a counter inside a DMV customer service branch.
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Roy White

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I believe the individual calling DMV on this issue probably followed the correct chain, however I think that I would have had to say something to the security person performing the task incorrectly at the time it occured.
Mike

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Everyone that is here in this country should respect the flag and for what it stands for. It is terrible how we all pull in so many directions over subjects. This is a country of people who is here by choice and all have free will, if this country is not good enough for some people...Tell another American and I am sure we will be glad to give you a one way ticket out of here. UNITED WE STAND, TOGETHER WE WILL FALL.
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Kudos to the guy for speaking up!
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I am outraged the problem was not corrected by the DMV state wide once the problem was brought to their attention much less the exact same branch. This shows the true lack of respect for what the flag, and this Country stand for.
Andrea

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Even my children know how to handle a flag. This is inexcusible. The employees at DMV should have told him to refold the flag properly. I agree with Roy if I had seen this I most defintely would have stopped him and taught him how to fold the flags myself.
Jenn from WA

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Thank Mr. Capek, not only for speaking out against this disrespectful situation but for your service to this country. As a 30-something I was raised to respect our flag and what it stands for. I am appalled that someone could be that careless. Thanks again for taking the time to do the right thing.
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Interesting that no one at the DMV had "noticed" what was happening to the flage when they were brought in for the night. I'd think that seing them balled up every(?)night at closing and every (?) morning when opening should have been enough to have a DMV employee complain...

Afterall, DMV is a government agency, and the flags represent our country and government...Or is it a commentary on how the DMV employees feel about their jobs?
Kristina

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Are you kidding me?! Spend your time thinking about something else to complain about buddy.
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Wow, of all the things in the world to worry about.
If you can actually burn a flag under the "freedom of speech" act. Than a crumpled one is better than a toasted one.
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Aren't there FAR more important things to report about? Big deal.
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PKM wrote:
Wow, of all the things in the world to worry about.
If you can actually burn a flag under the "freedom of speech" act. Than a crumpled one is better than a toasted one.
To burn the flag is a stance on the flag (or the belief of this country.)
To handle it improperly is a different matter and should be corrected.
Kudos for the man who spoke up.
I would have raised my concern with the DMV had I seen it myself.
People should learn how to respect the flag.
No one said you have to be here. Move if you don't like.
You can hate the government (or the party in power,) but never show your disrepect to the country or its flag.
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My bet is that the guard has never had anyone tell him what to do to show the flag respect--just like all those clowns who dress up in American flag clothing believing they are being patriotic. How respectful is it to put your butt in a pair of flag shorts and sit on the flag? Not to mention the fact that the U.S. Flag Code clearly says that the flag is never to be used as clothing. So, let's see some indignation this 4th of July when you see the drunk passed out on the beach in his flag swim trunks, or the drunk girl next to him in her flag halter top.
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Hurray for Mr. Capek! It's too bad that unless you take a story like this to the media where it gets statewide or nationwide attention before the "upper management" does something about it. It's just like the veteran who had an American Flag hanging in the front window of his mobile home and he was told to remove it because the "management" didn't allow "flags" of "any kind" to be displayed on the property, but once he took his complaint to the news media the "management" of the mobilehome park immediately said "oh, we didn't mean the American Flag couldn't be displayed, only decorative flags couldn't be displayed." Yeah Right!
Eric Capek

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I appreciate the comments relative to this story. I do agree, in retrospect, I should have addressed the security guard directly; however, I was informed of similar instances going on at other government locations. I hope that after this story was aired, the directive encompassing all DMV locations will be reiterated and adhered.

Yes, you may burn the flag as part of your freedom of speech, which countless men and women whom fought and died under this very flag afforded to you. Nevertheless, agencies, departments, bureaus, etc. of the government are not granted "freedom of speech" individuals are. The DMV holds no official political stance, party affiliation, etcetera, and therefore, that argument is devoid of substance.

Lastly, concerning the comments regarding this story being a waste of time and that I could have managed my time more efficiently, I disagree, as this is important to many Americans including myself. While taking the picture another customer at DMV commented how shameful it was. I sent several e-mails, which each take approximately 2-3 minutes to compose and send. The reporter contacted me shortly after via phone, the call lasted about another 2 minutes. The interview required no more than 30 minutes, to include travel time, the actual interview, and adjoining conjecture, which I spent on my lunch hour. In all, my time invested required approximately one hour... that is unequivocally incomparable to the sacrifice of those fallen in defense of our American flag. If this was such a waste of time, then commenting on it being so is not itself a “waste” of time?

Thank you kindly,
Eric Capek
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missss wrote:
Aren't there FAR more important things to report about? Big deal.
Obviously, you didn't have any loved ones who fought for our freedoms or lost their lives fighting for our freedom and for what the American Flag stands for, or you would be saying that there are "Far important things to report about." We wouldn't have the freedoms we have today if our military men and women didnt fight and/or die for what the American Flag represents.
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Kristina wrote:
Are you kidding me?! Spend your time thinking about something else to complain about buddy.
When I was young,we were taught reverence for our flag.We said the pledge of alleigence to the Flag at school.In Boy Scouts we were taught how to handle the Flag.We were taught not to fly a tattered or torn flag,to take the flag in when it became dark,and to not let the flag touch the ground.
I see businesses fly American flags that are so torn and tattered they are a disgrace,car dealerships flying their giant flags all night long.Now,DMV"security guards" ball it up and throw it around like a used tissue.
Our ancestors fought and died for that flag,and what that flag stands for.Brave men and women to this day fight for that flag,shed their blood and give their lives for it.
I don't know how it goes in your neck of the woods Kristina,or if you were raised by communists or wolves.In Virginia,we're still proud of our flag,and the freedom it represents.To you it may just be a piece of cloth flapping in the breeze,but it's really so much more than that.
Why don't you move to Iran,where your opinion might be respected?You'd probably not mind giving up all your rights as an American that those before you have fought so hard and so well to preserve.
God help us

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we need it. bless you mr capek for your service, and your time in drawing attention to this matter.

when will we, as a country, stand up for the foundations we were built on, instead of fearing this bs called 'politically correct'?

most moments we should be ashamed at the indignity americans suffer at the hand of 'tolerance'.

man up america- we are in trouble.
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missss wrote:
Aren't there FAR more important things to report about? Big deal.
WAKE UP!!!!
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Does this really belong at the top of the news? Even CNN put it on the first page of their US news.

A flag is crumpled and messed up. So you get another one. Capitalist business profits, and there's a sweet new flag flying at the motor vehicle. Problem solved.
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Kristina wrote:
Are you kidding me?! Spend your time thinking about something else to complain about buddy.
Kristina, you're another reason the US is having problems. It's called RESPECT.

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