Midlo sewer lines(you may have to dig up your street out of your pocket)

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sad case

Midlothian, IL

#1 Sep 29, 2009
For everyone's info. you are responsible for your sewer line all the way to the main sewer line, this means that if your line were to colapse, you are required to dig up the street (pavement) have the lines repaired, and repair the street after the repair is made. Being that most of the sewer lines in the village are over 50 years old, having heavy vehicles driving over the side streets over and over can cause concern. After some research here are the Midlothian Village codes that our own village does not seem fit to enforce, although they find time to enforce several others. As fining their own department would not bring in revenue to the city. I must say though that the park district did agree to have the trucks re-routed through the park so as not to drive over the residential street. Here are the ordinances:
10-15-14 Permit for Excess Size and Weight
(A) When in his judgment an emergency exists, the superintendent of public works, with respect to streets and highways under the jurisdiction of the Village, may in his discretion upon application in writing and good cause being shown therefore, issue a special permit in writing authorizing the applicant to operate or move a vehicle or combination of vehicles of a size or weight of vehicle or load exceeding the maximum specified in the laws of the state or otherwise not in conformity with the provisions of this chapter upon any street or highway under the jurisdiction of the village.
10-15-13 Wheel and Axle Loads; Gross Weights:
(A) Weight Limit: No vehicle or combination of vehicles equipped with pneumatic tires shall be operated, unladen or with load, upon any public way, except a county or state road, in this village when the gross weight on the road surface exceeds six thousand (6,000) pounds.
(B) Exceptions To Weight and Size Limitations: No person shall drive a truck or other commercial vehicle upon any such street or a part of a street in violation of any ordinance except for the purpose of delivering or picking up materials or merchandise and then only by entering such street at the intersection nearest the destination of the vehicle and proceeding thereon no farther than the nearest intersection thereafter. The word “load” when used in this section shall be defined and understood to mean the weight for such vehicle plus the weight of its contents or load, if any. This exception is applicable only for one trip. If more than one trip is necessary, a permit shall be obtained as provided in section 10-15-14 of this chapter.(Ord. 1396, 7-24)
As noted if it is more than one load they MUST get a permit in writing from the supt. of public works. "This exception is applicable only for one trip." This morning we had at least 8 full sized (tractor trailer type) trucks driving to deliver dirt and sand to the park district, and none had "written permission" to do so as per the supt of Public works, they did not need to. They were not village vehicles. FYI many homes in the village have their sewer lines on the opposite side of the street, which would mean it would cost approx.$10,000 to have such a repair or have your house condemned.
Agent

Midlothian, IL

#2 Sep 29, 2009
As someone who works in the insurance industry, I just want to let you know there is no coverage for any repairs to the sewers beyond your own property. Any repairs needed from the curb to the street, including the street would then come out of your own pocket.
whole life in midlo

Darien, IL

#3 Sep 29, 2009
I don't know how everyone else's runs but mine runs to the easement to the back of my lot. It never goes near the street. But thats just mine. I am on a corner lot on the north/west side of town. Now if it collaspes under my garage it could be a problem but otherwise no.

“26 year Midlo resident”

Since: Feb 09

Wichita, Kansas

#4 Sep 29, 2009
Yes mine goes to the back right under my garage also. I hope that part stays in good condition to be sure.

Well every Friday we have many big trucks cruising up and down our streets several times. It is garbage day. Watch out.
sad case

Midlothian, IL

#5 Sep 29, 2009
Those (garbage trucks) are necessity and do not weight even close to s semi-trailer full of sand or dirt. The plows do not continually go past usuually 1-3 passes. The village code reads if there is continous traffic (more than one truck) there needs to be a permit isssued in writting. Why have a village code if you are not going to use it. My garbage collector does not come back over and over during pickup day.
Thinking Clearly

Midlothian, IL

#6 Sep 30, 2009
Humm I am pretty sure you are only responsible for both your sewer and water up to the easement...as far as the water goes, only up to your buffalo box....it seems kinda funny to me that this post went up on the same day my mail delivered to me a letter from "Home Service" a company SELLING sewer & water insurance...Hey wait a min. did the old mayor buy stock in this company or something?
totally agree 2

Darien, IL

#7 Sep 30, 2009
Thinking Clearly wrote:
Humm I am pretty sure you are only responsible for both your sewer and water up to the easement...as far as the water goes, only up to your buffalo box....it seems kinda funny to me that this post went up on the same day my mail delivered to me a letter from "Home Service" a company SELLING sewer & water insurance...Hey wait a min. did the old mayor buy stock in this company or something?
I believe so. I have had to call the village out because they needed to check if the sewer was blocked on their part. I am only responsible up to my driveway. They were willing to do what it takes to fix it, if it was village property.
Claims Adjuster

Chicago, IL

#8 Sep 30, 2009
In all my years as a claims adjuster, Thinking Clearly is pretty much right on in regards to ownership. Water lines are only up to the buffalo box and the sewer lines are your responsibility up to the main tie-in with the sewer line (which normally is in or around the easement). I have never known a municipality requiring a homeowner to be responsible for property outside of their actual property lines (i.e. the street).
As for the statement from Agent, I have never seen a case when your sewer line collapse is covered. In most cases it is either a result of wear and tear/aging or damage from tree roots, both of which are excluded from almost every insurance policy. Also, land is not covered under a homeowners policy so any excavating is not covered. The only instance that any of the outside repairs would be covered would be in the case that your sewer line collapses, causes water damage inside your home, and the line runs under your driveway. Then only the water damage inside the home and the cost to tear up and repair the driveway would be covered. Nothing else.
These types of claims can be extremely costly to a homeowner. Mostly because the repairs are not managed properly. Any time sewage backs up into a home, people tend to panic and have repairs done right away believing that their insurance will cover it. Contractors sometimes take advantage of this and tear apart entire front yards to blindly look for the damaged pipe.
My advice if this happens is to not rush into repairs. Shut off your water. Have someone run a camera down the sewer (should only cost $100-$200) to identify where the blockage is. You can then make a much more educated guess as to where to start digging. I have seen repair bills up to $10,000 and only $500 of it is the actual sewer repair. The more digging you can do yourself, the better. Also, take an extra day or two without water and solicit quotes. The cost of a hotel room for 2-3 nights is a lot cheaper.

Since: Sep 09

Darien, IL

#9 Sep 30, 2009
I got that same letter yesterday. freaky huh??
sad case

Midlothian, IL

#10 Sep 30, 2009
midlo does make you pay to tear up the street if that is where the colapse is, then you must repair the road, my lines run all the way accross the street, not to the middle. And if you question this call public works and find out, you are responable to the main sewer line whether on your property or under the street.
sad case

Midlothian, IL

#11 Sep 30, 2009
yes your water main to the box, sewer all the way to wherever its broken, if its under the street you have to pay to repair the street also after the pipe is fixed. Just call and ask. water main to buffalo box, sewer to main connection.
sad case

Midlothian, IL

#12 Sep 30, 2009
Claims Adjuster wrote:
In all my years as a claims adjuster, Thinking Clearly is pretty much right on in regards to ownership. Water lines are only up to the buffalo box and the sewer lines are your responsibility up to the main tie-in with the sewer line (which normally is in or around the easement). I have never known a municipality requiring a homeowner to be responsible for property outside of their actual property lines (i.e. the street).
As for the statement from Agent, I have never seen a case when your sewer line collapse is covered. In most cases it is either a result of wear and tear/aging or damage from tree roots, both of which are excluded from almost every insurance policy. Also, land is not covered under a homeowners policy so any excavating is not covered. The only instance that any of the outside repairs would be covered would be in the case that your sewer line collapses, causes water damage inside your home, and the line runs under your driveway. Then only the water damage inside the home and the cost to tear up and repair the driveway would be covered. Nothing else.
These types of claims can be extremely costly to a homeowner. Mostly because the repairs are not managed properly. Any time sewage backs up into a home, people tend to panic and have repairs done right away believing that their insurance will cover it. Contractors sometimes take advantage of this and tear apart entire front yards to blindly look for the damaged pipe.
My advice if this happens is to not rush into repairs. Shut off your water. Have someone run a camera down the sewer (should only cost $100-$200) to identify where the blockage is. You can then make a much more educated guess as to where to start digging. I have seen repair bills up to $10,000 and only $500 of it is the actual sewer repair. The more digging you can do yourself, the better. Also, take an extra day or two without water and solicit quotes. The cost of a hotel room for 2-3 nights is a lot cheaper.
usually around the easment is not the norm in midlo, its an old town, go in front of your house storm sewers are on one side and sewage on the other, it depends on which side of the street you live on, chicago used to make you pay for the whole way under the street, but when people could not afford the cost and abandoned their homes it caused more problems, now chicago pays for the damage if it in the street.
sad case

Midlothian, IL

#13 Sep 30, 2009
totally agree 2 wrote:
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I believe so. I have had to call the village out because they needed to check if the sewer was blocked on their part. I am only responsible up to my driveway. They were willing to do what it takes to fix it, if it was village property.
WRONG! CALL PUBLICWORKS AND FIND OUT, NOT WATER MAINS, SEWER LINES.
Conspiracy

United States

#14 Oct 1, 2009
A Conspiracy?
Courtney Galler

Salt Lake City, UT

#15 Aug 12, 2014
Theoretically, if we were having problems with our sewer lines, we would have to get somebody to come repair it, right? Something just broken, and it reeks. We need to get somebody here. http://www.drainorooter.com/page.cfm/ID/28/Ex...
john

La Grange, IL

#16 Aug 13, 2014
We'll i guess i can dump garbage in the sewers and cost people in the town alot of money. i will start this in the fall when we have leaves. Sorry folks calling the police won't due any good. I live in the Angie A apartments so u could try to call the village and get me evicted.

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