pribbernow hearing

[For anyone who cares]

For anyone who cares and wants to support.
Steven pribbernow has a hearing Monday, Novemebr 2, 10:00 a.m.
Go to http://www.co.midland.mi.us/court_calendar.ph...
and type in anyone`s name to find when there`s a court date!
I was just informed that the news does NOT have to post a court date.
This is a competency hearing.

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The Cover-Up
Back when I started investigating child protective services, it was rare to hear about children killed while in foster homes. It seemed foster child deaths were covered up, white washed, and forgotten. In one California county a series of file cabinets full of reports of children abused in foster homes were found in a back room, the reports uninvestigated.
Child abuse in foster homes didn’t warrant investigations because there was no federal money to be made by taking children from bad foster homes. It still seems to be low-priority to many CPS social workers.
Federal funding is only given for taking children from their natural family homes, not from foster homes.
Things have changed in the last twenty years. Now foster child deaths are being reported on in newspapers more often, and those media businesses are demanding access to child welfare records about foster children killed while in state custody.

[For anyone who cares]

Sad! Thank you for that information. I visited a site online that has THOUSANDS of foster children that died in the care of foster. It was heart wrenching!

[Dawn]

There was no abuse going on in the home. These people were investigated and nothing was found. No Abuse hello?? In addition these were not foster kids. These are their children. So you may have good info but it dose not apply to this situation! And why would you want to go to the hearing because you are nosey? I find that very repulsive!

[WeSupportBio]

Jessica's home is NOT a good home for theses kids.

This is what has happened in Jessica's home.

1. Two daughters were molested, while in the care
of Jessica.

2. One son is in prison for molestation, while in
the care of Jessica.

3. One son murdered in Jessica's home, while in
the care of Jessica.

4. One son in jail for murder, while in the care
of Jessica.

5. Two sons assaulted and hospitilized while in
the care of Jessica.

This is not good parenting, Jessica has failed as a foster/adoptive parent and as a biological parent of her two daughters who were molested.

These kids need to be taken away.

[PPO LOST]

Jessica Saylor tried to get a PPO against the bio family. Jessica LOST the case.

The bio family loves their boys, and doesn't want anymore harm to come to them. The bio family is NOT stalking them, they love them.

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Dawn, Julie, Jessica...what ever your name? I am allowed to "support" what ever and who ever I want. And maybe, just maybe, the bio parents would like to attend for some closure. NIM ROD
They aren`t coming into any contact with them, so -as a friend-don`t tell them what people are posting! And if they are that ignorant to get on the computer and read the "horse crap" or the truth, then maybe they shouldn`t! They want to "grieve" in peace right? Then why are they the ones "stalking"?
Let it go-I wanted to put the trial dates on here for the people that support. I am not going to argue with you on this. I just know there are alot of people that are in support of the boy and want to show him, I told them how to check the dates-that`s it.

[my 2 cents]

I do not believe the bio parents are going to the media for attention. Those were her babies. She never stopped fighting for them. Would you ever stop if your babies were taken? She needsthem to know she will never stop fighting and loving them. Every child needs to know they were loved. Whether they wanted to be there or not. They grow up and need to know that their REAL parents did love them. That will be some type of closure for themselves.

[Court Dates]

Anyone can attend this trial. The bio family has every right to attend the trial of the person who is charged of murdering their son. The bio family loves their children very much. It will be up to the boys if they want to make contact with their bio family, it's their choice, and their choice alone.

They will age out of the system soon, at 18 and can do as they please. You have to let your bird fly free. If you give them freedom they will come back to you. If you keep them in a cage, they will fly far away.

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Many citizens in our great State of Michigan are unaware of Michigan's dirty little secret that falls under the guise of the Child Abuse and Child Welfare Protection Laws. The advertisements and literature surrounding this area seem to be doing a magnificent thing for the children of our state. We have been led to believe that the State of Michigan is saving thousands of children from severe physical abuse and neglect. This is far from the truth.

The truth is that this campaign is a giant money machine fueled by abuse of power of supervisors and case service workers employed by the Michigan Department of Family Independence Agency and private agencies that have contracted with FIA that we the tax payers are paying dearly for through our hard earned tax dollars. "Basically it is make work by creating a case and keep your job or contract with the state government." The current campaign to save the children is doing just the opposite. Parents and children are result of abuse of power in the name of more state and federal funding.

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THE FIA GAME

By Janet M. Frederick
Attorney and Counselor at Law

Many citizens in our great State of Michigan are unaware of Michigan's dirty little secret that falls under the guise of the Child Abuse and Child Welfare Protection Laws. The advertisements and literature surrounding this area seem to be doing a magnificent thing for the children of our state. We have been led to believe that the State of Michigan is saving thousands of children from severe physical abuse and neglect. This is far from the truth.

The truth is that this campaign is a giant money machine fueled by abuse of power of supervisors and case service workers employed by the Michigan Department of Family Independence Agency and private agencies that have contracted with FIA that we the tax payers are paying dearly for through our hard earned tax dollars. "Basically it is make work by creating a case and keep your job or contract with the state government." The current campaign to save the children is doing just the opposite. Parents and children are result of abuse of power in the name of more state and federal funding.

I have been working extensively in this area of law for approximately two years. All of the cases that I am working on do not involve children suffering from broken bones, bruises or starvation. In fact, most of the cases that I am involved in regard parents that merely spanked their children by giving the children one or two swats on the clothed behind, parents who have physically defended themselves from a physically violent teenager, parents who argued in front of their children, recently divorced single parents, parents with low incomes, parents who have failed to take their child to a doctor for mere cold symptoms such as sniffles and mild congestion, or parents who owned pornographic materials stored in a safe place where the children broke into and viewed the materials.

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The social workers in these programs compile information on the family and home for FIA. Basically, when you allow these workers to enter your lives and your home, you are allowing FIA to build a PS (Protective Services) record against you for child neglect which leads to further child protective proceedings in the Probate/Family Court which will ultimately result in the removal of your children and the children being placed in foster care. These workers are not hired to help you, they are hired to make a case of child neglect against you.

Why are families being targeted by FIA. Most people have the misconception that concerned citizens report child neglect and abuse. This is untrue! A small percentage of my cases involve reports of neglect and abuse from neighbors, family members, friends and school officials. In fact, the majority of my cases involved the family receiving some form of voluntary services from FIA, such as the free programs listed above. In the majority of cases, school officials, such as teachers and counselors, never suspected child abuse or neglect in the families that were prosecuted. Moreover, in most cases the family physicians never suspected child abuse or neglect in the families prosecuted. Families are targeted because FIA must justify its need for State and Federal grants to keep its workers employed

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Currently, FIA receives, in Federal grants,$2,000 to $4,000 per month per child in foster care and $10,000 per child adopted out into permanent homes after the parent's rights have been terminated due to neglect and abuse. The State of Michigan provides matching funds to FIA. Bill Clinton recently signed new legislation providing for an additional $2,000 to $4,000 per month per child in foster care and $10,000 for adoption. FIA is making money hand over fist through our tax dollars. FIA social workers receive bonuses for removing children from their homes and for adoption. The incentive for abuse of power is extremely high and has occurred at alarming rates.

During 1996, Clare County removed 50% of the children in the county for neglect and abuse in the home. It is very hard to comprehend that 50% of the parents in Clare County are neglecting and abusing their children. Clare County is a "demonstration county" that is a pilot county for The Binsfield Laws supported by Federal Grants. These programs involve privatizing the foster care system. The foster care program hires private industry to service the foster care needs of the county children removed from the home.

Currently, Eagle Village in Hersey, Michigan holds the foster care contract for Clare County FIA.

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How does the system work? FIA initially offers families free, voluntary services through prevention services to the families on the FOC (Friend of the Court files, AFDC files, Employment Security Commission files, Social Security files, etc.) such as free parenting classes, free nutrition programs, free homemaker services, free budgeting classes, free employment training programs, etc. The prevention worker works closely with the family to coordinate these free services by meeting with the family in their home on a regular basis, once or twice per week. While working with the family, the worker identifies problems areas that put the children at risk for abuse and neglect so as to qualify the family for these free services, such as poor parenting skills, homemaker skills, budgeting skills, and employment seeking skills.

The flip side of this arrangement is that the worker is building a case of neglect and abuse against the parents. Most problems identified are lack of bonding with the children and nurturing due to the parents' participation in these free programs. Basically, the parents are putting their needs before the children's needs by focusing on their problems as identified in their participation in these programs. Furthermore, workers in these programs work in tandem with FIA to identify other risk factors such as poor parenting skills, why else would a parent take a free parenting class if they themselves have admitted to having poor parenting skills. Voluntarily entering into these programs is an actual admission to poor parenting, nutrition, homemaker, budgeting, or employment seeking skills that put the child at risk for neglect and abuse that lay the foundation for child protective proceedings in the Probate/Family Court

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The Courts believe that the FIA workers are the professionals and take their word as gold. The parents cannot defend against FIA. The testimony and statements mean nothing in the Probate/Family Court. In fact the Court can issue an emergency pick up order for the children based on only FIA's statements in an ex-parte hearing conduct by the judge and the FIA worker.

The parents are not present during these hearings. The Court will issue an ex-parte emergency order allowing the FIA work to enter the home or child's school to remove the child from the parents custody. The parents do get a hearing approximately two weeks later after the removal of the child but FIA is only required to prove that probable cause exists that the children are at risk of neglect and abuse if they remain in the home

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Approximately 90 days later the parents may have a trial to determine whether by a preponderance of the evidence that the children are at risk to abuse or neglect if they are returned to the home. Most parents plea to abuse or neglect upon FIA's promise that if the parents plea and engage in services they will get their children back sooner. Most parents plea to charges that they have a temper, they have beaten their children by merely spanking them, they have failed to provide the child with medical attention when they had cold symptoms, or they are unable to provide for the basic needs of the child because they are temporarily unemployed. The Court then takes jurisdiction over the children, places them in foster care and orders the parents to follow the Parent/Agency Agreement to be drafted by FIA. FIA then engages in a lengthy and vague process of ordering the parents to engage in specific services, such as individual counseling, parenting classes again, anger management classes and counseling, psychological evaluations, drug and alcohol testing, classes and counseling, etc. Once parents complete these services, FIA informs the parents, usually during a court proceeding that they have not dealt with the proper issues in these programs that initially led to the removal of the children or the parents have not satisfactorily completed the programs because they will not or are not mentally able to comprehend their actions and the affect of their actions that have harmed their children. It is a no-win situation. FIA is in complete control of the interpretation of whether the parents have successfully completed the Parent/Agency Agreement

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Furthermore, if the parents elect to participate in FIA's services with their hired agencies, then the parents never successfully complete the Parent/Agency Agreement. These agencies are FIA's hired hands that build a case against the parents. If the parents elect to engage in services provided by professionals of their choice or referred by their HMO or other health care providers, then the parents must pay enormous amount of money for these services and for these professionals to come to court on their behalf to testify. More importantly, the Court views parents hired witnesses as hired hands and discounts any testimony given by these professionals as being adversarial, unbelievable and hired hands of the parents. FIA and some of the Court have gone as far as accusing the parents of failing to comply with the Parent/Agency Agreement by engaging their own professionals for service which has been deemed grounds for termination of parental rights. It is a no win situation that fails to focus on the best interest of the child.

During this whole process, Department of FIA is raking in the Federal and State grants to support its preventive, protective, and foster care programs

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These are our tax dollars at work and are being misappropriated and wasted to create a foster care and adoption industry in our state. I am not arguing that there are never cases of child abuse or neglect in this state. There are real case of such that must be meet with the proper social nets. But our current system is froth with abuse of power and waste of precious tax dollars that has created false child abuse and neglect cases for the purpose of creating employment for social workers and private industries providing foster care services, counseling agencies that provide individual therapy and psychological evaluations, and community education programs that provide anger management and parenting classes. All of these agencies are funded by our tax dollars which are being wasted on parents who are only less than perfect and children who are not abused or neglected in the legal sense.

Furthermore, all parents are court ordered to pay child support to the foster parents through the Friend of Court for the care of their children while in foster care. Parents pay on an average of $25.00 to $30.00 per week per child if FIA is providing the foster care family through it county agency. Parents pay approximately $150.00 to $2,000 per month if a private agency is hired by FIA to provide foster care services. Nobody is sure where this money goes once it is paid to the Friend of the Court

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The system of FIA needs to be restructured to make it workers accountable for their actions. Presently, FIA workers have complete immunity from civil actions in the State of Michigan unless a parent can prove that a worker was grossly negligent in the performance of his or her duties. Unfortunately this is impossible to prove. If a parent pleas or the Probate Court finds that its has jurisdiction over the child for neglect and abuse, FIA continues to have jurisdiction over the child and ultimately terminates the parents rights, this will bar any suit against the FIA worker under the immunity doctrine.

Once your child is in the system, FIA and its social workers are not accountable for the worker's actions. Their word is gold and the courts accept the workers word as gold. The only recourse a parent has is to appeal the Probate/Family Court's decision, which is very expensive. Most of my parents spend approximately $10,000 to $20,000 in defending against FIA in child protection cases, even when they plea. Most of my parents end up losing their homes, vehicles, jobs because of court appearances and engagement of professional services, and savings. Most of my parents are forced into bankruptcy

[Melissa]

All I can say is you should read the crap that you are posting! Have fun crazy people. Just know Saylors that if you ever do read this there is ALOT of people who know you love you and support you. Not these crazy people who have nothing better to do than bash on good innocent people. I sure am glad you support the Badens the Saylor don"t need trash like you in their lives!!!