"The Utica Menality"
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Utica34

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#1 Mar 5, 2013
Here where I live I hang out with several former utica transplants. We have a thing we refer to as the "Utica Mentalty". It's the beaten down mentality of many of the people that live there and it's quite depressing. All that's ever spewed is negativity. This is wrong...he's a crook...this will fail...what a waste of money. That's all that is ever heard from that region. Are there negative people in every community? Sure but not like utica. It's time for people in the Mohawk valley to have a little pride. When a business opens support it. If the schools need money how about seeing if you can fund raise or at least volunteer some time. Look at the heart run and walk. Just look at what happens when the people of utica put their minds to something. Stop with all the negative BS and blaming of everyone else for your problems. If your situation is that bad in utica then leave or find a second job. Have some pride.
Hey roseyglasses

United States

#2 Mar 5, 2013
It's not negativity it's called a track record of historic failurure and no-shows.

Here where I live we laugh at oooticans too, we call it the "ooootican mentality" of roseyglassed queens who simply think a few NFP-A-Thons and low grade parades make up for systemic corruption in local and state government, decades of fleecing by public safety thieves claiming they hold up your sky and an economy wherein NFPs are the only profitable "growth" industry, where the "CEOs" take 80% of the funds.

You really need to stop with the simpleton "Build it an they will come" failureplans, and lay of the Observer Dispatch too while you're at it.
platinum jane

United States

#3 Mar 5, 2013
I don't like knee grows.

Utica34

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#4 Mar 5, 2013
Hey roseyglasses wrote:
It's not negativity it's called a track record of historic failurure and no-shows.
Here where I live we laugh at oooticans too, we call it the "ooootican mentality" of roseyglassed queens who simply think a few NFP-A-Thons and low grade parades make up for systemic corruption in local and state government, decades of fleecing by public safety thieves claiming they hold up your sky and an economy wherein NFPs are the only profitable "growth" industry, where the "CEOs" take 80% of the funds.
You really need to stop with the simpleton "Build it an they will come" failureplans, and lay of the Observer Dispatch too while you're at it.
Nope. It's the mentality and attitudes of the people that lead to many of the problems. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. The more people keep saying things will fail the more likelihood it just will. I read it here. Something as simple as utica getting a new Moes Restaurant. All it is is negativity. It's almost like the people would rather have a boarded up building instead of a business owner willing to take a chance. A business owner that will pay property tax, will pay sales tax, will make a profit for themselves, and despite how "low" the wages will be people will still be working there.
truthspoken

New Hartford, NY

#5 Mar 5, 2013
Utica34 wrote:
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Nope. It's the mentality and attitudes of the people that lead to many of the problems. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. The more people keep saying things will fail the more likelihood it just will. I read it here. Something as simple as utica getting a new Moes Restaurant. All it is is negativity. It's almost like the people would rather have a boarded up building instead of a business owner willing to take a chance. A business owner that will pay property tax, will pay sales tax, will make a profit for themselves, and despite how "low" the wages will be people will still be working there.
Its the mentality and attitudes yes indeed. Of the people, thats all people, most importantly the people in charge of the city. Those people have a negative, corrupt, greedy attitude. They rob the city,they exploit the poor, they line their pockets with the meager income tax dollars of whats left of hard working positive honest people. Thats what is wrong with the city, thats why the young motivated, intelligent hard working people leave. You my friend will do much better if you open your eyes to the truth and if you are inclined to prosper seek your prosperity elsewhere because the powers that be will not allow you to do so in Utica. They will fight tooth and nail to keep you from success.
Uhhh

Ardsley, NY

#6 Mar 5, 2013
Hey roseyglasses wrote:
It's not negativity it's called a track record of historic failurure and no-shows.
Here where I live we laugh at oooticans too, we call it the "ooootican mentality" of roseyglassed queens who simply think a few NFP-A-Thons and low grade parades make up for systemic corruption in local and state government, decades of fleecing by public safety thieves claiming they hold up your sky and an economy wherein NFPs are the only profitable "growth" industry, where the "CEOs" take 80% of the funds.
You really need to stop with the simpleton "Build it an they will come" failureplans, and lay of the Observer Dispatch too while you're at it.
What exactly does the word "oooootican" mean? What is the significance of the missing "U" and the numerous "o's" - please explain.

Utica34

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#7 Mar 5, 2013
truthspoken wrote:
<quoted text>Its the mentality and attitudes yes indeed. Of the people, thats all people, most importantly the people in charge of the city. Those people have a negative, corrupt, greedy attitude. They rob the city,they exploit the poor, they line their pockets with the meager income tax dollars of whats left of hard working positive honest people. Thats what is wrong with the city, thats why the young motivated, intelligent hard working people leave. You my friend will do much better if you open your eyes to the truth and if you are inclined to prosper seek your prosperity elsewhere because the powers that be will not allow you to do so in Utica. They will fight tooth and nail to keep you from success.
Couldn't be further from the truth. Obviously you didn't read the first post. I don't live in utica anymore.
utica mentality

Carthage, NY

#8 Mar 5, 2013
have some great tomatoe pie,or BREAD WITH SAUCE. Hows that claim to friggin fame?
Hey roseyglasses

United States

#9 Mar 5, 2013
Uhhh wrote:
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What exactly does the word "oooootican" mean? What is the significance of the missing "U" and the numerous "o's" - please explain.
If you seriously need sarcasm explained, I can understand why you can't grasp the reality.
The oootica mentality doesn't have enough negativity if you ask me. You people live with your heads up your asses.

That's why you put up with decades of substandard public representation, overtaxation, and unaccountable officials. The problem isn't not enough lying and denial people, it's people who refuse to see how substandard and pathetic it really is. Obviously your decades of roseyglassed bakesales in the OD don't make up for decades of inept and corrupt old boy politicos. Nice try.

"Not talking about" the failures of the people you pay for "service" won't make it go away, if you're that simple in the head then you truly deserve to be in make-believe wanabe land.

Again, they tried it that way and your results speak for themselves. You sheep that think denying problems and "negativity" deserve every ass-stroke you get then. Enjoy it, you seem to.

Did the retards you pay figure out the budget from 3 years ago yet or no? I know I know maybe a "blimp" will make things rosey again! Maybe more "OOOtica Monday Night" will make your kids stop thinking a GED is a diploma.
Maybe dreams will stop the drugs and heroin you youth turns to to hide from your results?

Maybe a new retard bar on Varick or a new Saranac Piss flavor will do the trick for you people?

Open your fkn eyes cowards.

Utica34

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#10 Mar 5, 2013
Hey roseyglasses wrote:
<quoted text>If you seriously need sarcasm explained, I can understand why you can't grasp the reality.
The oootica mentality doesn't have enough negativity if you ask me. You people live with your heads up your asses.
That's why you put up with decades of substandard public representation, overtaxation, and unaccountable officials. The problem isn't not enough lying and denial people, it's people who refuse to see how substandard and pathetic it really is. Obviously your decades of roseyglassed bakesales in the OD don't make up for decades of inept and corrupt old boy politicos. Nice try.
"Not talking about" the failures of the people you pay for "service" won't make it go away, if you're that simple in the head then you truly deserve to be in make-believe wanabe land.
Again, they tried it that way and your results speak for themselves. You sheep that think denying problems and "negativity" deserve every ass-stroke you get then. Enjoy it, you seem to.
Did the retards you pay figure out the budget from 3 years ago yet or no? I know I know maybe a "blimp" will make things rosey again! Maybe more "OOOtica Monday Night" will make your kids stop thinking a GED is a diploma.
Maybe dreams will stop the drugs and heroin you youth turns to to hide from your results?
Maybe a new retard bar on Varick or a new Saranac Piss flavor will do the trick for you people?
Open your fkn eyes cowards.
No new business is bad business.
Hey roseyglasses

United States

#11 Mar 5, 2013
Utica34 wrote:
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No new business is bad business.
Blame your officials and yourselves for accepting the no-standards life. Attacking the people who point out the obvious is a little "oootican" wouldn't you say?

In oootica elementary schools they teach exactly two defense mechanisms-

The "Deny" and the "You're just Jealous".

Utica is a testament to the "Shoot the messenger" syndrome.... attack the messenger and try to just drag their cred down - ie - "If it ain't fixed... don't call it broke"!
Yea Right

Warren, NJ

#12 Mar 5, 2013
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Maybe a new retard bar on Varick or a new Saranac Piss flavor will do the trick for you people?

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HAHAHA so true!
Truth

Utica, NY

#13 Mar 5, 2013
Utica34 wrote:
Here where I live I hang out with several former utica transplants. We have a thing we refer to as the "Utica Mentalty". It's the beaten down mentality of many of the people that live there and it's quite depressing. All that's ever spewed is negativity. This is wrong...he's a crook...this will fail...what a waste of money. That's all that is ever heard from that region. Are there negative people in every community? Sure but not like utica. It's time for people in the Mohawk valley to have a little pride. When a business opens support it. If the schools need money how about seeing if you can fund raise or at least volunteer some time. Look at the heart run and walk. Just look at what happens when the people of utica put their minds to something. Stop with all the negative BS and blaming of everyone else for your problems. If your situation is that bad in utica then leave or find a second job. Have some pride.
I think you confuse negativity with skepticism. Attitudes would be different if promises wre kept and dreams presented as a great thing for us panned out. They haven't for the most part. A healthy dose of skepticism is what comes naturally to those who have been promised steak and given bologna.
Truth

Utica, NY

#14 Mar 5, 2013
Utica34 wrote:
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No new business is bad business.
And business paid by the taxpayers is worse business.

Utica34

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#15 Mar 5, 2013
Truth wrote:
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And business paid by the taxpayers is worse business.
Unfortunately that is the state of uticas affairs. What other incentive does the area have to attract anything? Seriously think about it. What is there to draw any young entrepreneurs or professionals there? It's why the city is trying to make itself more aesthetically appealing. It's why the city is trying for a casino. It's why a team is being brought in. It's why they spend money on the Stanley, etc.

Utica34

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#16 Mar 5, 2013
Truth wrote:
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I think you confuse negativity with skepticism. Attitudes would be different if promises wre kept and dreams presented as a great thing for us panned out. They haven't for the most part. A healthy dose of skepticism is what comes naturally to those who have been promised steak and given bologna.
Nah. The negativity is the problem. Do people in utica really think some major business is going to uproot where it is now and go to utica? For what? I read things here like "we need high paying jobs not retail" we'll who doesn't want that but at the same time what does utica have to offer these businesses? Nothing right now except a very negative population.

I read here about utica losing the chip plant and its the governors fault and Albany gave them tax concessions,etc. BS. When that company was scouting locations that would work and eventually bring in high paid execs why would those execs want to live in utica? Nothing there to offer them at all. It's not even close on why utica lost the chip plant to Malta.

People in utica should see the boom that is still going on in Malta. Hundreds of homes built. Thousands of apartments. Three or four hotels. Retail all over the place. There's even talk about them building another mall here. Utica this could have been yours if you just had something to offer.
Proves Uticasux

United States

#17 Mar 5, 2013
Utica34 wrote:
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Unfortunately that is the state of uticas affairs. What other incentive does the area have to attract anything? Seriously think about it. What is there to draw any young entrepreneurs or professionals there? It's why the city is trying to make itself more aesthetically appealing. It's why the city is trying for a casino. It's why a team is being brought in. It's why they spend money on the Stanley, etc.
Since when does the city actually use ACTIONS to prove it CARES about "aesthetics"?

Look at your city online, you Utica poLICE Facebook for example. I know for a total fact that it repells business. The "leaders" only care about touting their "results" and trashing people for thier own welfare jobs.

Utica is a toilet. No amount of cheerleading will bring one fucking business there at all. Your officials and leaders LIE endlessly they can't even show areal budget it's all lies and posing.

Your whole city exists to support public safety that it doesn't even have the population to support, that's uterus' big claim to fame these days.

Your priorities are a "bar, prison, police" economy.

Enjoy what you created and own it proudly.

Utica34

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#19 Mar 5, 2013
Proves Uticasux wrote:
<quoted text>Since when does the city actually use ACTIONS to prove it CARES about "aesthetics"?
Look at your city online, you Utica poLICE Facebook for example. I know for a total fact that it repells business. The "leaders" only care about touting their "results" and trashing people for thier own welfare jobs.
Utica is a toilet. No amount of cheerleading will bring one fucking business there at all. Your officials and leaders LIE endlessly they can't even show areal budget it's all lies and posing.
Your whole city exists to support public safety that it doesn't even have the population to support, that's uterus' big claim to fame these days.
Your priorities are a "bar, prison, police" economy.
Enjoy what you created and own it proudly.
You keep talking to me like I live in utica. How many times to I need to post that I don't live in utica?

And the only way to change things in utica is to build and develop.
Good Hating

Herkimer, NY

#20 Mar 5, 2013
Good job hating today Cretin! It's the only thing you're good at!
UPD - Race Baiters

United States

#21 Mar 5, 2013
Good Hating wrote:
Good job hating today Cretin! It's the only thing you're good at!
Truth hurts the queens. Too bad. Also, I'm obviously good at a great many things that amaze losers like you. Thanks!

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