Utica goes completely BROKE

Utica goes completely BROKE

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your right

Syracuse, NY

#1 Jan 24, 2013
The utica common council voted to side step the law once again that would require it's fund balance to remain above 3%. Here we go again. I would exspect another downgrade from Moody's and other credit agencies very soon as the city has exausted every means to pay it's vendors, bills, and employee's. This is it, Utica will be totally broke and has an unsustainable fiscal path going forward. Any projects or economic developement will hit taxpayers directly in their pockets no matter what grants are approved because Utica's track records shows over-runs and cost that taxpayers are directly responsible for. I see an unstable outlook going forward as we are sinking into an abyss of uncharctered territory where taxpayers have simply had enough and can't afford their own bills let alone the mis-mangement of this city for the last 10 years, where Roefaro being the worse and blowing through 12 million in reserves and adding to the deficit by over 6 million crushing Utica's bond rating and ability to pay it's bills, then quitting on taxpayers to take up a career following State senator Schumer. One thing for sure with dwindling revenues and homeowner to fork over anymore taxes will be faced with worrysome decisions whether to be part of furthering declines which the city has no solutions on addressing or to sell and move to higher ground as the tsunomi of debt and burden swells way over the heads of elected officials and city where incompetence and lack of spending control reaks havok and those who are left behind. Doomsday people upon us in Utica as even schools are over burden with even more and more poor kids and refugees over excerting Utica schools budgets resources we are responsible for.
sad

Syracuse, NY

#2 Jan 24, 2013
Utica use to be a nice place but politics ruined it.
sem

Boston, MA

#3 Jan 24, 2013
politics didnt ruin it .First lazy bums that collect welfare and disability ,non profit buinesses tax free ,dirty people who chase good neighborhood people away,seniors who are half exempt on taxes,all cause higher taxes for the rest of taxpayers. Religeous organizations dont pay taxes.Add this all up and this equals less money in the city funds. Put that together with a big police fireman payroll needed to control all the trashy residents = disaster.What the city should do is charge a surgharge to non profits for services of plowing an publi safety and havea city income tax like New york city.
more propaganda

Syracuse, NY

#4 Jan 24, 2013
Did you hear Chief Brooks say on Columbia street that thank god the fire station on whitesboro street wasn't closed because the whole block would have burned down. Oh the theatrics and drama. They save the world again thank god with there super hero's and well oiled system bankrupting the entire city. Utica will never amount to a pimple on an ants ass as long as homeowners continue to be bombarded with higher taxes and fee's every single year in this soap opera of a fuking shit hole called Utica, cesspool of cheating, lies, and incompetence.

Since: Jan 08

Rome

#5 Jan 24, 2013
If I was Chief, I would want fire stations on every block. He's just doing his job.
Wow

Little Falls, NY

#6 Jan 24, 2013
Even a blind man can through his bullshit. Yes. He'd have a full paid career station on every street corner. Good stuff. The union would just about loose touch with reality with all those dues coming in. They would need an armed guard company on contract to transport all that moola.

No thanks kiddies. Ill stick to the suburbs.
Freebie the Bean

Long Eddy, NY

#7 Jan 24, 2013
Utica gets everything they deserve by voting career politicians in and giving the public safety unions EVERYTHING these greedy pigs ask for. The fire chief is 87 years old and makes $112K/year and pays $15 a month for his health insurance. He can retire right now and draw $102K/year on his pension since he's maxed out being on the dept. since 1944 when he was 19.
its nuts

Manlius, NY

#8 Jan 24, 2013
maybe holtslag and mike nelson should stop making $123,876 a year
wutq

Gouverneur, NY

#9 Jan 25, 2013
Meola was on news the other day and he menioned the city bank statements havent been reconciled since 2010. What the hell is going on there?
bull crap

Syracuse, NY

#10 Jan 25, 2013
The city is so full of shit and have been using the same lame excuses for a decade now, They sound like a broken fucking record. What do they thing we are deaf, dumb, and blind. Apparently so. They said they want transparentcy but all we get is predictability and the same ole bullshit every year. Exspect to be tax heavily the rest of your life, period, thats was Roefaro's masterplan all along. The end.
I said it all along

United States

#11 Jan 25, 2013
bull crap wrote:
The city is so full of shit and have been using the same lame excuses for a decade now, They sound like a broken fucking record. What do they thing we are deaf, dumb, and blind. Apparently so. They said they want transparentcy but all we get is predictability and the same ole bullshit every year. Exspect to be tax heavily the rest of your life, period, thats was Roefaro's masterplan all along. The end.
I remember all the hooplah and comments on this forum when they were working to get roefaro elected. I said it then I hope they enjoy getting the failure they wanted. It will be fun watching all fall apart from far far away! Good luck!
you were so right

Syracuse, NY

#12 Jan 25, 2013
I said it all along wrote:
<quoted text>I remember all the hooplah and comments on this forum when they were working to get roefaro elected. I said it then I hope they enjoy getting the failure they wanted. It will be fun watching all fall apart from far far away! Good luck!
What in the world were taxpayers thinking when they hired an "UNDERTAKER". Now, at the time they said Julian was killing Utica, so the only reason why I believe taxpayers hired Roefaro(the undertaker) was to ask him to bury Utica and give it it's final rights. He accomplished his mission in excasserbating all of it's assets(12 million) and the high cost of buring it(6 million in debt) and his job was done in just four years. Roefaro, wit that said had raise taxes nearly 100% with a generational 10% tax for the rest of it's life. If we would have just cremated Utica it would have been so much cheaper and then you could have spread the refugees and welfare regime around the rest of the state but now even the working are starving and they still have to pay for those on welfare who have more to eat than the working.
deceptive practice

Syracuse, NY

#13 Jan 25, 2013
ProctorHighfuzzymath wrote:
<quoted text>
Mayor says he cut 50 jobs last year. The budget says 20 positions eliminated in police dept and also says 20 positions created. You cant count positions as layoffs if you put them back in the budget too!2012/2013 budget.

Exactly, they say they make cuts to make everyone happy, that makes the appearance that they have a sustainable budget. Once the budget passes they go back to rehiring, spending and adding the same positions which actually adds to the budget all over again. It's called deceptive practice which the city has been using for years but none did it better than smokey mirrors Roefaro who had everyone fooled or Roefaro and his team of deceptors at least thought they had fooled. You wonder why Roefaro always went to senior centers and grade schools to push his budegts and sell this deception and lies. Roefaro was a master manipulator who came up with this master plan of fraudulent practice of putting one thing on paper and doing another the in reality. It may work on dead people but not the living.
toots

Herkimer, NY

#14 Jan 27, 2013
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