Churches build on state-of-the-art fa...

Churches build on state-of-the-art facilities

There are 18 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 2, 2008, titled Churches build on state-of-the-art facilities. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

As Glad Tidings Church nears the end of a $3 million expansion, the Rev. Kevin Holt knows he isn't seeing the last of the construction dust.

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fatcatpostal

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Jan 2, 2008
Tax the churches! They are giant money makers that take advantage of the ignorant and gullible.
Perspective

Staten Island, NY

#2 Jan 2, 2008
You folks keep making my argument easier to make.
Irvington Presbyterian

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Jan 2, 2008
You're sad.

Since: Dec 06

Brookfield, WI

#4 Jan 2, 2008
fatcatpostal wrote:
Tax the churches! They are giant money makers that take advantage of the ignorant and gullible.
That's right, the Lottery is a better investment for the ignorant and gullible...

Churches have a long standing tradition in the United States as being a hub for community involvement. But then... so do pubs. And as time goes on the distinction seems to be becoming blurred...
Frank

Renton, WA

#5 Jan 2, 2008
Hmmmm what's next a bank in a church....gah here comes that hippy knocking it down again.
Jesusfreak

Johnson City, TN

#6 Jan 2, 2008
Wow, these churches are really new, hip, and happenin'! Hope you guys don't have any dirty hippies trashing your cash registers!:)
KingCthulu

United States

#7 Jan 2, 2008
Wow, the oldest and richest business in the world just got richer!

Hmm.... I need to go start a church!

“Got my mojo workin'”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Jan 2, 2008
Wow, if I didn't pay property taxes, maybe I could add another room onto my house! I don't even need to double the size or do anything "state-of-the-art".
Note to self: Start your own religion this year and begin calling your living room the sanctuary.
Obbop

Omaha, NE

#9 Jan 2, 2008
As the humans depart their worshipping palace I observe their driving behavior as they hit the road.

Speeding, tailgating, not yielding when appropriate...general uncivil and, at times, dangerous-to-others and themselves driving behavior.

I believe the true inner attitudes are expressed while those folks drive, not what they utter during their religious services.
Bloppo

Omaha, NE

#10 Jan 2, 2008
L. Ron Hubbard told his sci-fi writing buddies way back when that the quickest way to become a millionaire in the USA is to start a religion.

Then he went on to prove it.
blah

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Jan 2, 2008
They had better be paying unrelated business income tax on income from the coffee shops and other non-related activities that are being conducted. I'm guessing they aren't though.
blah

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Jan 2, 2008
And God said let my followers falsify their tax returns by claiming money spent on private education as a charitable contribution as well.
Dolly Dagger

Aspen, CO

#13 Jan 2, 2008
A camel can go through the eye of a needle more easily than a rich man can get into heaven.
Whoops

Rancho Cordova, CA

#14 Jan 2, 2008
The Christian Church is for teaching the Word of God and sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Building coffee shops won't keep people from hell. This whole "purpose driven" church garbage waters down the gospel and brings in people who want to hear warm fuzzy stuff. Teaching the Bible will bring in true believers who want to know the truth. The roots of their faith will be genuine and deep. Churches need to stick to the Bible, not buildings and shopping centers and coffee shops.
lew

Claremont, NH

#15 Jan 3, 2008
amen whoops. I'm all for churches being relevant in this day and age, but that can and should be done via the pulpit. The Acts Church wasn't necessarily about thousands coming together, although that happened. Christ doesn't seem to be the focus, but the building is.
Neil

Tucson, AZ

#16 Jan 3, 2008
"Worship is now an experience..." Excellent point. Manipulation of the senses, not edification of the mind, is what worship in most modern churches, liberal & conservative, is about. This started with Soren Kierkegaard, who denied the importance of doctrine.
bclark_63

United States

#17 Jan 3, 2008
To most of the posts I would quote the words of Jesus, "I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance"

To others I would say that it is dangerous to impune motives based on a news article. True, there is a very disturbing trend among contemporary churches to pander to the culture. We desperately need to come back to the strong preaching and teaching of God's word. But, just because a church builds a gymn and a coffe shop does not mean it is pandering. Could it not also mean that particular church is authentically striving to engage the culture with the transforming power of Christ for God's glory?

The Church will ALWAYS be criticized by our culture if it is seeking to minister authentically and engage the culture for God's glory. When the criticism stops either the Church has abandoned its mission OR the Groom has arrived to claim His bride!
CallMeK

Shingle Springs, CA

#18 Jan 3, 2008
It's tragic what the church has become in the last 20 years. It has left it's true purpose according to the Book of Acts - to teach the Word of God and share it with the world. Church is now a social experience, not a place of teaching and growth. Churches change their names to become more appealing, they leave out key doctrines like sin and redemption in order to attract people and not offend them, and they place importance on entertainment rather than true Bible teaching.

The Lord must be cringing and weeping when He sees what His church has become. It's a tragedy.

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