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Mom
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My daughter has emailed me all info saying "she is OK". I haven't spoken to her yet, but I know she is angry right now.
Guys, obviously, police and you were in a different mood status that night.Police was, is, and always will be in a "governing" mood: "We've got the power!"
You were partying in a childish mood. Any joy comes out from a childish site of ourselves. These two moods don't match, do they?
The only point to meet at the same level for both sites is an adult conversation, which requires patience and a deep breathing along with other life skills.
(Here I am skipping the topic that policemen are actually more adults than you are in your age).
Now it is time for you, our children, to become adults. We, parents, are filled with hope that you will. Good luck! Mom.
P.S. Always keep your childish site with you in life, no matter what!
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JOE
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The police are causing more problems with the students-- The police need to learn how to dael with these situations rather then starting to attack the students
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Oklahoma
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In the heat of the moment (partying and the police beginning to show up) it is hard to calm down and leave the area. However, it is the student's responsibility to do what is ordered by the police in such a situation. Being a college student myself, I can imagine the drive to "stand up" against the officers, but in reality, you were in defiance of a lawful order, so deal with the consequences. You can't throw things at the police and then claim police abuse.
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Alissa
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If you confront the police in a hostile manner then expect hostility in return. Yes, everyone gets a little wild sometimes, but if the police say do this then do it because they are usually looking out for your best interests as well as the interests of those around you. Refusing to disperse and throwing a beer bottle at the police is considered hostile.
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Tim Brock
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Sounds like good police work to me.
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Biker Chick
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The gall of these students is amazing! To be given a lawful order by a police officer who is sworn to enforce the law and KEEP THE PEACE and then when the police officer responds to your REFUSAL to follow that order, by using NON-LETHAL crowd control, and then the lawbreakers call 911 to report that the "police are attacking us?" Oh My God!!!
This is what permissive parenting, lack of discipline and lack of consequences for bad behavior in early life results in. Adults who believe that they can do anything they want to, anytime and they are completely justified even to the point that when they break the law, the police should just say "well, kids will be kids" and walk away? Give me a break!
Oh, and the mother who says, her daughter is angry and her response is "the police are in a governing mood" and "they are more adults than you are". Does that advice come with a lollipop and a hug?
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dshan
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whaaaa they didnt do what they were asked (to disperse/leave the area)and wanted to get belligerent and push the issue with the police...and they're SURPRISED?!?!? what a bunch of idiots. I wonder just how many were drinking illegally on site, and who provided the alcohol?
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dshan
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Mom wrote: My daughter has emailed me all info saying "she is OK". I haven't spoken to her yet, but I know she is angry right now.
Guys, obviously, police and you were in a different mood status that night.Police was, is, and always will be in a "governing" mood: "We've got the power!"
You were partying in a childish mood. Any joy comes out from a childish site of ourselves. These two moods don't match, do they?
The only point to meet at the same level for both sites is an adult conversation, which requires patience and a deep breathing along with other life skills.
(Here I am skipping the topic that policemen are actually more adults than you are in your age).
Now it is time for you, our children, to become adults. We, parents, are filled with hope that you will. Good luck! Mom.
P.S. Always keep your childish site with you in life, no matter what! WOW mom I sure hope your daughter (I assume a student) doesn't learn grammar and spelling from you. They were drunk and obnoxious and got what they deserved.
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MBG
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The bottom line here is that the police did thier job and the students did not. I have two elementary kids who throw temper tantrums when they don't get what they want (and they still don't get it), and that is what is sounds like the students are doing now. Get over yourselves and understand that this world must have rules and people to enforce them. If you cannot behave, then at least learn to accept the consequences of your actions with maturity.
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Biker Chick
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To Joe who says "the police need to learn how to deal with these situations", they have already been trained in crowd control. The fact is that the student blog reports that the police arrived at the request of Psafe, who had been trying to disperse the crowd themselves but were unsuccessful. The police then tried for 45 minutes to talk to people and calmly ask them to leave. This was after beer bottles had been lobbed at the police cars. Then, someone (probably a student) throws a smoke bomb into the area of the police.
Seems to me, it's the students who need to "learn how to deal with these types of situations."
Bottom line is that when the cops tell you to go home, that's your first warning. The police are not your parents, they don't care if you like them or not and they don't care about hurting your "wittle feelings" like mommy and daddy do. Your multiple chances to leave peacefully and continue your party back in your dorm room or some other location was disregarded by YOU.
Even if you didn't personally attack the police, if you stand in the middle of a crowd where some people are attacking the police, then you're not that bright because you're intentionally putting yourself in a very dangerous situation where you can potentially be injured or killed when the police move in. You may be in college, but you've got a lot to learn about surviving in the real world.
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JOE HAJINICOLAS
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Maybe its me but when a police officer tells me to leave an area, I would leave. The last thing I would do is to debate it. The police gave them a chance to leave peacefully, but liquid courge took over. Be stupid became job ONE on their list and they got what was coming. So suck it up and go back to class.
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wesleyan student
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I was a witness to the scene from my bedroom window, where I had been working on a final paper until all of the commotion. I would like to take a minute to point out some of the issues that remain under-reported.
The statement that "students were throwing bottles" is extremely misleading. Two bottles were thrown, in a crowd of over 200 students. One of these bottles was thrown 45 minutes prior to any action by police, while the second bottle was thrown after the police had already started shooting the crowd with pellets and pepper spray.
The police procedure was unprofessional and disproportionate to student behavior. Police arrived on the scene after public safety called them when students refused to leave Fountain street after a party was broken up. At this point in the night, there was no alcohol being distributed, no noise complaints from neighbors. students were simply hanging out on the block where they or their friends live, chatting amongst each other, and saying their goodbyes.
When police arrived on the scene they did little to disperse students. In fact, I saw more students arrive on the scene as the cop cars continued to increase, to watch what was becoming a spectacle. I even saw police officers talking and joking with students. About 45 minutes after their arrival, police announced on loudspeakers that students should disperse. Not very many people budged, but nobody was being rowdy or out of control.
within 10 minutes of their first request to disperse,and without announcing the means they were about to employ, the police lined up, walked forward, and started shooting into the crowd.
The students were hit with what seemed to be paint ball guns but were actually pellets of pepper spray. Many students, including those who had recently arrived on scene to watch the commotion, were hit in sensitive areas such as the chest or face.
Immobilized as a result of the spray, many students were unable to get up. One student who approached the police with his hands in the air, unthreatening, asking the police to stop and give the students a chance to get up and leave after being hit, was struck by pellets, knocked to the ground, tased, attacked by a dog, and then repeatedly kicked by a police officer as he lay on the ground with his hands behind his head.
Some students tried to help those who were on the ground after being hit. Then they too were shot at, even as they tried to beg the police to give them a chance to get their friends up.
A dog that was brought to the scene, at one point, was loose in the crowd without a leash, jumping and biting at students.
The bottom line is not that the police were just doing their job. They used excessive force for a situation that was not threatening, and i would even question if the situation was breaking any laws before the police arrived on scene.
Student claims of police brutality should not be dismissed as "childish temper tantrums." At the time, students felt scared and in bodily danger.
when several students went to the police station in the early morning to file formal complaints, the police were uncooperative and unprofessional. One student reported that police officers refused to let the students use the pens available in the office, suggesting that they go to the cvs and buy pens down the street. Many students were refused photocopies of their complaints until one student brought out a camera and asked the officer, on film, why he wasn't allowing them to have photocopies of their complaints. Many students were denied requests for badge numbers, and some students reported that initially, the police were throwing some of the complaints in the trash.
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wesleyan student cont
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the alarming issue is not that the middletown police broke up a party on the last day of school. What is alarming is that this is not the first incident of excessive force by middletown officer on the wesleyan campus, let alone the greater middletown area.
this is not an issue to be ignored or dismissed as students being rowdy. The police are their to protect our safety - and this is something that becomes impossible when citizens do not feel that they can trust the officers meant to work in their service.
Here I am adding my own opinion, but the smiles on the faces of some of the officers, and the refusal to distinguish between who was trying to be cooperative, who was not, and who was genuinely hurt, was enraging. It felt as if these officers were using the situation as an opportunity to act out a personal vendetta against the students, which makes no community feel safe.
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wesleyan student
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Judged:
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I was a witness to the scene from my bedroom window, where I had been working on a final paper until all of the commotion. I would like to take a minute to point out some of the issues that remain under-reported. The statement that "students were throwing bottles" is extremely misleading. Two bottles were thrown, in a crowd of over 200 students. One of these bottles was thrown 45 minutes prior to any action by police, while the second bottle was thrown after the police had already started shooting the crowd with pellets and pepper spray. The police procedure was unprofessional and disproportionate to student behavior. Police arrived on the scene after public safety called them when students refused to leave Fountain street after a party was broken up. At this point in the night, there was no alcohol being distributed, no noise complaints from neighbors. students were simply hanging out on the block where they or their friends live, chatting amongst each other, and saying their goodbyes. When police arrived on the scene they did little to disperse students. In fact, I saw more students arrive on the scene as the cop cars continued to increase, to watch what was becoming a spectacle. I even saw police officers talking and joking with students. About 45 minutes after their arrival, police announced on loudspeakers that students should disperse. Not very many people budged, but nobody was being rowdy or out of control. within 10 minutes of their first request to disperse,and without announcing the means they were about to employ, the police lined up, walked forward, and started shooting into the crowd. The students were hit with what seemed to be paint ball guns but were actually pellets of pepper spray. Many students, including those who had recently arrived on scene to watch the commotion, were hit in sensitive areas such as the chest or face. Immobilized as a result of the spray, many students were unable to get up. One student who approached the police with his hands in the air, unthreatening, asking the police to stop and give the students a chance to get up and leave after being hit, was struck by pellets, knocked to the ground, tased, attacked by a dog, and then repeatedly kicked by a police officer as he lay on the ground with his hands behind his head. Some students tried to help those who were on the ground after being hit. Then they too were shot at, even as they tried to beg the police to give them a chance to get their friends up. A dog that was brought to the scene, at one point, was loose in the crowd without a leash, jumping and biting at students. The bottom line is not that the police were just doing their job. They used excessive force for a situation that was not threatening, and i would even question if the situation was breaking any laws before the police arrived on scene. Student claims of police brutality should not be dismissed as "childish temper tantrums." At the time, students felt scared and in bodily danger. when several students went to the police station in the early morning to file formal complaints, the police were uncooperative and unprofessional. One student reported that police officers refused to let the students use the pens available in the office, suggesting that they go to the cvs and buy pens down the street. Many students were refused photocopies of their complaints until one student brought out a camera and asked the officer, on film, why he wasn't allowing them to have photocopies of their complaints. Many students were denied requests for badge numbers, and some students reported that initially, the police were throwing some of the complaints in the trash.
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Buddie
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Common sence should tell you that if an officer of the law is telling you to do something you do it. Fight it out in court later if you feel your rights were violated. The police's main job is to make sure no one gets killed or seriously hurt. College kids now adays need to stop being "hippies" and just obay the law.
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CommonSense
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Hey, I have a crazy idea.. When the police tell you to disperse... disperse.
Then they should show all of the police that used any type of force on the resisting violators on national television and promote them all.
If the police tell you to go home. Go home.
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viginmary
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glad i live in germany every year be it ames Iowa or isle vista U CAL,central city in mich, i hear about out of controll police abusing students.
but then americans have to realize, HEY you guys live in a police state.
wither or not you want to believe it, you do. your police have FAR TO MUCH leeway to make spontanous brutal actions with no checks or balances on their behavior.
we do not tolerate such things here in germany any more. we learned our lesson and we keep the police on a tight leash.
UNLIKE THAT DOG which i am sure was a german shepard trained to attack...how completely uncivilized.
btw here it is legal to drink in the street no matter what the hour as long as you behave yourself.
the situation was very immature brought on by the immaturity of the authoritys in question.
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Patrick Clancey
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"Officers, including state police, tried to get the students to go back home, but when the kids refused police say they were forced to use stun guns and pepper spray."
Is it too much to ask that the story explain what laws were broken before the police ordered citizens off the streets? As written, the story implies a POLICE INSURRECTION that should have resulted in the imposition of martial law by the State Police or National Guard, while criminal investigations of police conduct were undertaken...
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MaryLouise
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It sucks to be them, they should have been thrown in jail it's about time. Maybe they will think twice before they start being animals instead of people....
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Lucy
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Mom wrote: My daughter has emailed me all info saying "she is OK". I haven't spoken to her yet, but I know she is angry right now.
Guys, obviously, police and you were in a different mood status that night.Police was, is, and always will be in a "governing" mood: "We've got the power!"
You were partying in a childish mood. Any joy comes out from a childish site of ourselves. These two moods don't match, do they?
The only point to meet at the same level for both sites is an adult conversation, which requires patience and a deep breathing along with other life skills.
(Here I am skipping the topic that policemen are actually more adults than you are in your age).
Now it is time for you, our children, to become adults. We, parents, are filled with hope that you will. Good luck! Mom.
P.S. Always keep your childish site with you in life, no matter what! If I were involved, I'd be sure to adjust my "mood status" while always remembering to keep my "childish site" with me. Learn some English spelling and grammar.
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