Cromwell Mother Angry Daughter Got Lost At Day Camp

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Parent wrote:

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Get the facts 1st don't blow it out of porportion. She was not left for an hour & was crying because she was reprimanded. The 5 yr old did not even know she was left on the playground until the consouler went looking for her!!!!!!

Dear "Parent" or is it Sue, or Sue's friend...whoever you are, With regard to your multiple posts, you are obviously not objective, and the things you THINK you know, are not the facts. You can't possibly have the whole story if you haven't talked to more people than whoever you got your pathetically innacurate story from. Furthermore, the story you are spouting off is ridiculous. Care to enlighten yourself with a little reality?
Try talking to the mother, not just someone trying to cover their @ss - instead of hiding behind your keyboard shooting off words that mean nothing,and have little to no basis in reality.

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One more word for "parent" with the fantasy version of events. I know the mom,and I know her well. I know the details of the story, and exactly how much research she did into exactly what happened. I know how many people she talked to, and how much investigating the situation went on. THE TOWN investigaged it and THE TOWN found there was gross negligence as well. Did the TOWN MAKE IT UP TOO? Are you that naive?
Use your head and think about it, do you really think this mother had nothing better to do, than just make stuff up. Do you think she has some wild vendetta and just enjoys harassing Sue? Why don't you try using your head. She is upset for a reason. Oh yeah, did the first mother also just make it up? Try thinking objectively your self, instead of looking at a one sided, self serving version of events!

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a dose of reality wrote:

One more word for "parent" with the fantasy version of events. I know the mom,and I know her well. I know the details of the story, and exactly how much research she did into exactly what happened. I know how many people she talked to, and how much investigating the situation went on. THE TOWN investigaged it and THE TOWN found there was gross negligence as well. Did the TOWN MAKE IT UP TOO? Are you that naive?
Use your head and think about it, do you really think this mother had nothing better to do, than just make stuff up. Do you think she has some wild vendetta and just enjoys harassing Sue? Why don't you try using your head. She is upset for a reason. Oh yeah, did the first mother also just make it up? Try thinking objectively your self, instead of looking at a one sided, self serving version of events!

Just a suggestion....have your friend randomly pick 12 different people who have posted on this thread, read their opinions on this situation, and think, "That's what a jury will look like", when she's ready to file her lawsuit.

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butane wrote:

Assign a "buddy system" teach kids responsibility and team work. Unless they both disappear - have one kid be responsible for the other.
Unless you want to be unrealistic and hire one over-21 adult to guard each child.

I think a buddy system for programs like this is an excellent idea.

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Money talks wrote:

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Just a suggestion....have your friend randomly pick 12 different people who have posted on this thread, read their opinions on this situation, and think, "That's what a jury will look like", when she's ready to file her lawsuit.

You just showed how IGNORANT you are, along with some of the other "random people" on this blog, and why the comments of people like you carry no weight at all. You don't care to read, or evaluate facts. You have a preformed opinion, which you will mold any information you obtain, into backing up your own opinion.
She has repeated over and over, there is no lawsuit. There never was. The news took a comment out of context, and exaggerated it. Try reading, and you'll see her correcting that a number of times.
The fact is, this blog is not a random sampling of peoples comments at all. This article was emailed to alot of school employees in Cromwell. As a result, there are a number of biased people blogging on here, with a predisposition to defending Sue, because they know her and like her. On the news blogs, the people may still have some biases just because Sue has a reputation in town, and the mother is unkown, but it is more random, because the link wasn't emailed directly to alot of people who are friends of Sue. The fact that happened, automatically weights this blog in Sues favor.
If you want a truly random sampling of comments, here is MY suggestion for YOU. Walk around and tell parents who have never heard any of this story, and don't know any of the people involved, so they have no personal opinions that bias them. Tell them this simple fact "A five year old at a town recreation program, was left alone on a playground for an hour, and no one knew she was missing until her sister brought it to the staff's attention". Tell them the person who actually left her there, is the Director of the Park and Rec dept., she still has her job,and that the same program also lost a child a few years ago. Tell them that she got no discipline the first time, and now a warning in her file, and that if she does it again next year, the fact that she has done it twice before, won't matter, the warning expires in 12 months.
I defy you to explain those facts, to a random sampling of parents, and have them not be outraged.

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a dose of reality wrote:

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If you want a truly random sampling of comments, here is MY suggestion for YOU. Walk around and tell parents who have never heard any of this story, and don't know any of the people involved, so they have no personal opinions that bias them. Tell them this simple fact "A five year old at a town recreation program, was left alone on a playground for an hour, and no one knew she was missing until her sister brought it to the staff's attention".

I'll try your experiment, but what I'll say is, "A five year old child was inadequately watched by a program staffed by high school and middle school kids, and with an inadequate number of adults." I'll bet my random 12 people will say, "Why did the mother leave her at such a program? Didn't she notice there weren't enough adults? Didn't she ask?"

[Canton Resident]

"Just a suggestion....have your friend randomly pick 12 different people who have posted on this thread, read their opinions on this situation, and think, "That's what a jury will look like", when she's ready to file her lawsuit".

I couldn't agree more, majority of comments feel that the mother at least had some responsibility or duty toward her child. In today's world you can't expect that you can leave a child and things will be okay.

[Canton Resident]

"Why did the mother leave her at such a program? Didn't she notice there weren't enough adults? Didn't she ask?"

I agree especially with a week long camp situation. This wasn't a liscened day care where you assume there are enough teachers because the State watches over the facility and does checks. If it is a week long program and you have a 5 year old you need to ask even if you don't notice how many adults.

[Canton Resident]

"This article was emailed to alot of school employees in Cromwell. As a result, there are a number of biased people blogging on here, with a predisposition to defending Sue, because they know her and like her."

I don't live anywhere near Cromwell and I don't know Sue, what I do know is that as a mother of two small children you bet that if I leave them at a town run week long outdoor arts and craft type thing I am asking the questions of how many teachers there are and what the staffing is like. If it is not adequate I'm not leaving my kids there. Now, I don't want to assume the mother didn't ask the town, but from what I have read I don't think she asked.

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Canton Resident wrote:

"This article was emailed to alot of school employees in Cromwell. As a result, there are a number of biased people blogging on here, with a predisposition to defending Sue, because they know her and like her."
I don't live anywhere near Cromwell and I don't know Sue, what I do know is that as a mother of two small children you bet that if I leave them at a town run week long outdoor arts and craft type thing I am asking the questions of how many teachers there are and what the staffing is like. If it is not adequate I'm not leaving my kids there. Now, I don't want to assume the mother didn't ask the town, but from what I have read I don't think she asked.

Were are you qouting from? Go back to Canton

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Do you people bother to read at all?
The kids were not at the program for a week, they were there for literally a few hours! ONE OF WHICH the younger one was MISSING, and NO BODY KNEW IT!
This was supposed to be a little bit of fun and socialization for the kids, with their friends, it's that simple.(Did you happen to notice that the mother showed up after lunch, to pick up her kids, when the program actually ran all day? The program starts at 9, so -yeah, what a mom...leaving her kids to the wolves all day, because she doesn't care right?
The kids went to a place that was SUPPOSED to be SUPERVISED appropriately
Slice it any way you want, and the mother has obviously learned a valued lesson, but the fact is, she trusted the program to be run properly. The fact that it was not is the point, not whether or not the kids should have been brought there at all. The debates are two entirely different debates, and if you can't distinguish between the two, you are an idiot.

She'll be sure to keep her kids wrapped up tightly under her wing from now on, and never let them experience any taste of life without her right there supervising it. They better not go to any birthday parties or school functions or any other social event that she isn't attending, because there is always the possibility that who ever the supervising people responsible are, won't do their job, but at least it won't be their fault at all, it will be the moms.

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dose of reality wrote:

They better not go to any birthday parties or school functions or any other social event that she isn't attending, because there is always the possibility that who ever the supervising people responsible are, won't do their job, but at least it won't be their fault at all, it will be the moms.

That's right, if she doesn't think to ASK how many adults are going to be there.

[Canton Resident]

"They better not go to any birthday parties or school functions or any other social event that she isn't attending, because there is always the possibility that who ever the supervising people responsible are, won't do their job",

True but if there are enough people to watch the children and this happens then you are right the people responsible weren't doing their job. That is not the case here, there wee not enough people to watch the children and a child was lost and the mom never asked because if she asked how many teachers and how many children, I don't think she would have left her kids. She is not a bad mother, she just didn't think to ask, but those kind of oversights can result in disater.

[Canton Resident]

"Were are you qouting from? Go back to Canton"

No comments on the subject of my post. Are you mad that I made a good point?

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Canton Resident wrote:

"They better not go to any birthday parties or school functions or any other social event that she isn't attending, because there is always the possibility that who ever the supervising people responsible are, won't do their job",
True but if there are enough people to watch the children and this happens then you are right the people responsible weren't doing their job. That is not the case here, there wee not enough people to watch the children and a child was lost and the mom never asked because if she asked how many teachers and how many children, I don't think she would have left her kids. She is not a bad mother, she just didn't think to ask, but those kind of oversights can result in disater.

okay, canton resident, and money talks. Try using your head. The point is, that the people responsible did not do their job (just like you said, but you can't seem to apply that concept to the facts here). PERIOD!

Anything beyond that fact may or may not be true, but it is irrelevant to the story.

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Money talks wrote:

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I'll try your experiment, but what I'll say is, "A five year old child was inadequately watched by a program staffed by high school and middle school kids, and with an inadequate number of adults." I'll bet my random 12 people will say, "Why did the mother leave her at such a program? Didn't she notice there weren't enough adults? Didn't she ask?"

The problem here isn't that you miss the point. It is that you are unwilling to look at it. You are far more concerned with being "holier than thou", and having all the answers.
If the program were run properly, this would not have happened. No matter what you ask, people are not going tell you that they are incompetent, or that their procedures are not followed. If they actually thought that, they probably wouldn't do things that way. What they TELL you, will sound perfectly acceptable. What they do when you are not looking may not be. There was not SUPPOSED to be only one adult, nor was there SUPPOSED to be too many children, nor was alot of the way things were done, the way they were supposed to be done.
But please, by all means, keep on finding ways to be more important, and more right than everyone else, so you can go to sleep at night feeling like the most wonderful, and perfect being in the world. If only everyone could be just like you, the world would be such a more perfect place to live. It's a pity.

[keped bak in high skool]

Should i work there i love kids and ill pay attention to all of them

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Canton Resident wrote:

"Were are you qouting from? Go back to Canton"
No comments on the subject of my post. Are you mad that I made a good point?

Hey it says ur from canton are you happy i made a good point

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Canton Resident wrote:

"Were are you qouting from? Go back to Canton"
No comments on the subject of my post. Are you mad that I made a good point?

I wouldn't go as far as saying a good point. Your logic is flawed.

Using quotes if you don't have a source destroys the credit of your point. Upon asking for a source you failed to do so, and destroyed your credibility a little more.

“The woman from Canton with no education was a dimwit.”

See no quotes.

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no source so its not true or is it?