Answered prayers came in $3 million j...

Answered prayers came in $3 million jackpot donation

There are 18 comments on the Newsday story from Aug 28, 2008, titled Answered prayers came in $3 million jackpot donation. In it, Newsday reports that:

It was an unpleasant announcement for Pastor Bertrand Crabbe to make to his congregation at True North Community Church in Port Jefferson Station.

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Maur

AOL

#1 Aug 28, 2008
Exemplary
Ray_D

Portsmouth, VA

#2 Aug 28, 2008
Lottery winnings are filthy lucre, gained at the expense of the poor. The church would be wise to refuse such ill gotten gain.
Tony

Bronx, NY

#3 Aug 28, 2008
Ray_D wrote:
Lottery winnings are filthy lucre, gained at the expense of the poor. The church would be wise to refuse such ill gotten gain.
exactly what "church" are you refering to? just because someone rents a storefront and calls it a "church"???
Ray_D

Portsmouth, VA

#4 Aug 28, 2008
Tony,

A church is a group of people, not a building. Many in the early church met in people's homes.
george

United States

#5 Aug 28, 2008
While tempting to take the money, it flies in the face of biblical teachings. I wonder if this is one of those Gay Churches that can't wait to marry Harold and Stanley? Lapsed churches are a dime a dozen today. OH, and by the way, giving some of the money to the poor and the needy is a smokescreen so they don't look so bad accepting the money. The bible refers to that as "Satan appearing as Light" which is designed to fool people. That formula, by the way has worked very well. It is like when that vicious lesbian from Hell Rosie O'Donnel who is hated by anyone with a soul still intact in their body, hears that she is giving some money to the "poor and needy". It is Public Relations. But it works. Be careful who your friends are.
reality check

United States

#7 Aug 28, 2008
I am horrified at some of these posts from christian people? Yes the bible does speak about these types of gains but lets remember it was put to paper by man and translated by man. If I am not mistaken these activities were not to take place in the 'temple'. Anyway people have a choice to do right or wrong. The church hopefully will do a lot of right with this money that will out weigh any misconception that the money is 'tainted'. They did not ask that the congregation play the lottery. Who appointed you all God?
Swoop

Brookfield, WI

#8 Aug 28, 2008
The church members are gambling the lotto and they're worried about a new building? How about some sermons on vice 101? Greed? Covetousness? But then, the end justifies the means, right? The church gets a shiny new building, the people can do what they please and everybody's happy. Talk about a win/win.
Ray_D

Portsmouth, VA

#9 Aug 28, 2008
reality check wrote:
I am horrified at some of these posts from christian people? Yes the bible does speak about these types of gains but lets remember it was put to paper by man and translated by man. If I am not mistaken these activities were not to take place in the 'temple'. Anyway people have a choice to do right or wrong. The church hopefully will do a lot of right with this money that will out weigh any misconception that the money is 'tainted'. They did not ask that the congregation play the lottery. Who appointed you all God?
The Bible may have been "put to paper by man" but the human authors were under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, so those words carry some authority. Nobody has appointed anyone "God" but we do have His inspired Word to guide us.

I too hope the church does right with the money, but would their conscience be as clear had the money come from the Gotti family instead of from the pockets of the poor who fund lottery jackpots?
CarMar

New York, NY

#10 Aug 28, 2008
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but all I can say is that they must be doing something right/inspirational at this church for some 'average' person like you and I to give a complete lotto winning to them.
tired of it

Andover, NJ

#11 Aug 28, 2008
The power of brainwashing. These Cults are very good at their mission.
What a shame to throw money away in this fashion, Some good could have come to other family members , homes paid off, College tuition for the younger ones.
Very sad indeed.
Greensboro Resident

United States

#12 Aug 28, 2008
For sure, some one will attribute this act of generosity to the man who "walks on water", none other than Senator Obama, the Messiah.
Wearysaint

Bowmansdale, PA

#13 Aug 28, 2008
It's all about building a bigger building. The money is never given to the poor members to help pay utilities, or paying off medical bills, or helping to buy groceries or other needs.
These "Churches" are too focused on the building project, but are neglecting the spiritual growth of their members. They preach from watered down Bible translations and preach watered down sermons. The saints need spiritual food in a land where there is a great famine.
It's all about the building!
Chris

Deer Park, NY

#14 Aug 29, 2008
I have been to this church on Long Island before, before the money came in. The money could not have gone to a better place. The pastor, Bert, started as a youth pastor in a church and had the calling of God to start his own fellowship. With NO money, just a group of dedicated people, he started True North Community Church. Over time more and more people starting attending church. He held more and more services, as of now he’s up to 4 on Sunday. The truth is he needs a larger building to reach more people. Really how many services can you hold? It’s not about greed, quite the opposite in fact. I know it is easy to say that the church doesn’t help the people but in this case it is incorrect. A wise man does not draw conclusions without information; most of the comments are not coming from “wise” men… For the record I do not currently attend the church, I’m purely and outsider looking in, but with information the general population does not have.
woops

Warren, NJ

#15 Aug 29, 2008
Gotta love superstition.
Mr Bojangles

Greenwich, CT

#16 Aug 29, 2008
Maybe the donation came from a guy who already had lots of money. If the pastor isnt corrupt he'll probably do more good than bad with the loot.
Very Sad

West Islip, NY

#17 Aug 29, 2008
"Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams." - 1 Samuel 15:22
Dave

New Britain, CT

#19 Aug 29, 2008
I'm sure the "church" will need the money to pay for a lawyer when they inevitably get caught fondling kids.
Mr Bojangles

Greenwich, CT

#20 Aug 29, 2008
Greensboro Resident wrote:
For sure, some one will attribute this act of generosity to the man who "walks on water", none other than Senator Obama, the Messiah.
I could use a fresh peanut butter pie

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