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the truth is out there

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Link to the Mastic Beach zoning commission.
https://sites.google.com/site/masticbeachzoni...
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Zoning Commission of the Village of Mastic Beach will hold a Public Hearing at the Town of Brookhaven Nutrition Center, 369 Neighborhood Road, Mastic Beach, New York on Thursday, December 27, 2012 at 6:00 pm. The purpose of the Public Hearing is to present a proposed Zoning Code for the Village of Mastic Beach.
Go to this meeting to see what they are planing.
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Dec 22, 2012
 
the truth is out there wrote:
Link to the Mastic Beach zoning commission.
https://sites.google.com/site/masticbeachzoni...
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Zoning Commission of the Village of Mastic Beach will hold a Public Hearing at the Town of Brookhaven Nutrition Center, 369 Neighborhood Road, Mastic Beach, New York on Thursday, December 27, 2012 at 6:00 pm. The purpose of the Public Hearing is to present a proposed Zoning Code for the Village of Mastic Beach.
Go to this meeting to see what they are planing.
Thanks.
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They are trying to steal the waterfront again. The Trustees will be able to do whatever they want once the new waterfront zoning districts go through. Notice how they make the meeting during the xmas holiday when people are busy and away.

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Eminant Domain wrote:
They are trying to steal the waterfront again. The Trustees will be able to do whatever they want once the new waterfront zoning districts go through. Notice how they make the meeting during the xmas holiday when people are busy and away.
Good thing school's closed & I'm on vacation. I'll make it there :-) Tired of getting force fed new "codes".:-(
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AGAIN? i thought that we were supposed to be involved in the new zoning commission's ideas? they have not mentioned any of the proposed laws at their open meetings. this is just another attempt to control every aspect of our lives. also, we don't need commercial businesses on the waterfront. trying to pull the wool over our eyes again.

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not a koolaid drinker wrote:
AGAIN? i thought that we were supposed to be involved in the new zoning commission's ideas? they have not mentioned any of the proposed laws at their open meetings. this is just another attempt to control every aspect of our lives. also, we don't need commercial businesses on the waterfront. trying to pull the wool over our eyes again.
Do you expect a leopard to change its spots? The only way we'll get an open government is to vote it in in March....
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MB Lifer - Anti_Village wrote:
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Do you expect a leopard to change its spots? The only way we'll get an open government is to vote it in in March....
Get as many people out tonight but more importantly we need to come out in full force on January 7th when the mayor an Trustees are going to vote on the new zoning. Again they are BSing the people by zoning commercial and business on the waterfront and telling residents not to worry as they can't act on their zoning. WHY ZONE IT FOR UNENFORCEABLE ZONING? Because they lie - Remember TAX NEUTRAL and LIMITED SERVICE. The services have been indeed limited. We don't have half the services the TOB used to provide. Maybe if they cleaned out the storm drains even once in 2 plus years. Every time it rains or floods I cannot leave my house at Dogwood and Lakeview my streets is impassable for days .
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Eminant Domain wrote:
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Get as many people out tonight but more importantly we need to come out in full force on January 7th when the mayor an Trustees are going to vote on the new zoning. Again they are BSing the people by zoning commercial and business on the waterfront and telling residents not to worry as they can't act on their zoning. WHY ZONE IT FOR UNENFORCEABLE ZONING? Because they lie - Remember TAX NEUTRAL and LIMITED SERVICE. The services have been indeed limited. We don't have half the services the TOB used to provide. Maybe if they cleaned out the storm drains even once in 2 plus years. Every time it rains or floods I cannot leave my house at Dogwood and Lakeview my streets is impassable for days .
So the Town of Brookhaven failed you for years and now you want help from The Village to fix your street. Which member of the board have you notified of your problem there? I did see the dip in your street.It needs to be raised.
Vote em out

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FixIt wrote:
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So the Town of Brookhaven failed you for years and now you want help from The Village to fix your street. Which member of the board have you notified of your problem there? I did see the dip in your street.It needs to be raised.
Of coarse she wants help from the village, THEY ARE OUR GOVERNMENT NOW!!!
Whats wrong with you Brady?
We have no other group to turn to EXCEPT the village and the idiots in charge!
The TOB isn't coming down here to fix anything, they already told us that BEFORE a village was voted in. None of you "yes men" believed them.
So now, YES, we want the village to do what they said they would and provide THE SAME BENEFITS AND SERVICES THAT THE TOB PERFORMED AT NO EXTRA COST TO US. Stop trying to re-zone the waterfront and fix the damn roads! The TOB would have fixed them for us, why isn't the village???
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Vote em out wrote:
<quoted text>Of coarse she wants help from the village, THEY ARE OUR GOVERNMENT NOW!!!
Whats wrong with you Brady?
We have no other group to turn to EXCEPT the village and the idiots in charge!
The TOB isn't coming down here to fix anything, they already told us that BEFORE a village was voted in. None of you "yes men" believed them.
So now, YES, we want the village to do what they said they would and provide THE SAME BENEFITS AND SERVICES THAT THE TOB PERFORMED AT NO EXTRA COST TO US. Stop trying to re-zone the waterfront and fix the damn roads! The TOB would have fixed them for us, why isn't the village???
NOPE, I am just reading the same old shit. Leave me out of your issues.
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Vote em out wrote:
<quoted text>Of coarse she wants help from the village, THEY ARE OUR GOVERNMENT NOW!!!
Whats wrong with you Brady?
We have no other group to turn to EXCEPT the village and the idiots in charge!
The TOB isn't coming down here to fix anything, they already told us that BEFORE a village was voted in. None of you "yes men" believed them.
So now, YES, we want the village to do what they said they would and provide THE SAME BENEFITS AND SERVICES THAT THE TOB PERFORMED AT NO EXTRA COST TO US. Stop trying to re-zone the waterfront and fix the damn roads! The TOB would have fixed them for us, why isn't the village???
OK. So the Town of Crookhaven let the roads sink for years. Then then dug "drainage pits" that clog every time it rains.
The way you fix the problem is to raise and level a road so that it crowns and drains properly. Seems like you're happy with the way Crookhaven flooded you for years.The Village can fix it for you. Not if you stay behind your keyboard though. You will have to make some effort.
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FixIt wrote:
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OK. So the Town of Crookhaven let the roads sink for years. Then then dug "drainage pits" that clog every time it rains.
The way you fix the problem is to raise and level a road so that it crowns and drains properly. Seems like you're happy with the way Crookhaven flooded you for years.The Village can fix it for you. Not if you stay behind your keyboard though. You will have to make some effort.
The village not only WONT fix it, they don't have the man power OR equipment to even try to fix it. To bad the village idiots didn't get a plan or budget before we became a village. The TOB DID fix my road when I called them. The TOB DID instal a stop sign when I asked them.
The village hasn't pumped out a single drain since we became a village. This isn't a job that you call about or wait for a problem to fix it. The TOB DID pump every drain EVERY YEAR! Village? Not ONE has been done. Huh, looks like LESS service to me! But keep blowing smoke up our a$$es and telling us how wonderful the village is. We all know whats happening here. Gary's working for Gary and no one else. Why else is Zoning back on the agenda when no one wants it to change?
Answer: It's for Gary and his marina. Not us, but GARY!
village will not work

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Read the 2012 budget.The officials bragged that they had a $7500 surplus but here is the catch,There were no salaries or benefits charged for the mayor or trustees against the 2012 budget which would of then put us seriously in the red.If you read also that there was no money alloted for snow removal.Best of all is that the TOB gave the village back almost $574,000 that was in the kitty for highway.In our budget there was no money alloted for highway.The almost $574,000 was utilized by the village for everything else except highway.This is total incompetence by all.Again we need to focus all together and get this disaster over with.It can not be accomplished by 1 or 10 individuals but by a large group of frustrated individuals who had enough with the lies and incompetence and not just being on here as a support group for each other which is doing nothing to demise it.Do not believe me than start to read the budget.
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FixIt wrote:
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So the Town of Brookhaven failed you for years and now you want help from The Village to fix your street. Which member of the board have you notified of your problem there? I did see the dip in your street.It needs to be raised.
it has been brought up at many village meetings that the storm drains need to be cleaned. it is swept under the table and "tabled" till the next meeting. also, yes, i expect the GOVERNMENT that was elected by the people in mastic beach to provide the services that i need as a homeowner and resident. it is their job to provide these services. and, by the way the town of brookhaven always cleaned the storm drains.
POOR MANS VILLAGE

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The Village GOVERNMENT should remember that they are NOT a CIVIC group.
The Vision Team wanted all the responsibility and they were going to do it FOR FREE and they were going to be BETTER then the TOB. REMEMBER??????
Well, they aren't!

Instead of a "poor mans village" like the PCCA promised us, we have a poor(ly) planed village.

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village will not work wrote:
Read the 2012 budget.The officials bragged that they had a $7500 surplus but here is the catch,There were no salaries or benefits charged for the mayor or trustees against the 2012 budget which would of then put us seriously in the red.If you read also that there was no money alloted for snow removal.Best of all is that the TOB gave the village back almost $574,000 that was in the kitty for highway.In our budget there was no money alloted for highway.The almost $574,000 was utilized by the village for everything else except highway.This is total incompetence by all.Again we need to focus all together and get this disaster over with.It can not be accomplished by 1 or 10 individuals but by a large group of frustrated individuals who had enough with the lies and incompetence and not just being on here as a support group for each other which is doing nothing to demise it.Do not believe me than start to read the budget.
DEBT SERVICE
Tax Anticipation Note (Prin.) A9730 0 182,000 182,000 0
Tax Anticipation Note (Int.) A9730 0 4,247 4,991 0
Total 0 186,247 186,991

Let them tell you about this little ditty that is our future debt. A IOU that does not make us cost nuetral -smoke and mirrors - 187k nice work village idiots and kool aid drinkers

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Vote em out wrote:
<quoted text>The village not only WONT fix it, they don't have the man power OR equipment to even try to fix it. To bad the village idiots didn't get a plan or budget before we became a village. The TOB DID fix my road when I called them. The TOB DID instal a stop sign when I asked them.
The village hasn't pumped out a single drain since we became a village. This isn't a job that you call about or wait for a problem to fix it. The TOB DID pump every drain EVERY YEAR! Village? Not ONE has been done. Huh, looks like LESS service to me! But keep blowing smoke up our a$$es and telling us how wonderful the village is. We all know whats happening here. Gary's working for Gary and no one else. Why else is Zoning back on the agenda when no one wants it to change?
Answer: It's for Gary and his marina. Not us, but GARY!
Every drain, every year my foot ! As for the zoning commision, this is a requirement for us to move forward and define what we can be. I find it hard to believe that you know all there is to know about the proposed code , yet were'nt aware about all the pubic meetings that took place. which is it, clueless or enlightened ?
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<quoted text>Every drain, every year my foot ! As for the zoning commision, this is a requirement for us to move forward and define what we can be. I find it hard to believe that you know all there is to know about the proposed code , yet were'nt aware about all the pubic meetings that took place. which is it, clueless or enlightened ?
I know for a FACT that they are once again trying to push through a law (re-zoning) that was never discussed with the residents of MBV.
FACT: TOB pumped the drains EVERY YEAR!
FACT: MBV has NEVER pumped ONE SINGLE DRAIN IN THE ENTIRE TIME THEY HAVE BEEN A VILLAGE!
FACT: ZONING is to benefit GARY, no one else!

Why are we still trying to change the waterfront Zoning to commercial when the only person that will benefit by this is THE ONLY PERSON WITH A BUSINESS ON THE WATERFRONT!!!!! And that is GARY STIRITZ! WOW whoopsing, what a coincidence that is, don't ya think?
Don't allow him to change our waterfront and vote this bum out in the spring!!!

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And in the beginning who went to Florida to see a trailer that was rigged to treat sewerage. That will be the missing piece as the board of heath is the hurdle on the wetlands except for that trailer - now it all make sense, Not blinded by the Koolaid
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whoopsing wrote:
<quoted text>Every drain, every year my foot ! As for the zoning commision, this is a requirement for us to move forward and define what we can be. I find it hard to believe that you know all there is to know about the proposed code , yet were'nt aware about all the pubic meetings that took place. which is it, clueless or enlightened ?
it is not a requirement to change any zoning. it is only a requirement that we have a zoning plan on file. we can keep it as is, and change it when we have a real plan. for now, why not concentrate on putting pressure on state/federal government to fix the breaches so that every time it rains, we don't flood badly. what's the point of zoning anything around the waterfront commercial if you are going to be flooded numerous times every year?

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