Canal walk in downtown Frankfort?

Canal walk in downtown Frankfort?

There are 80 comments on the WLFI-TV West Lafayette story from Apr 17, 2013, titled Canal walk in downtown Frankfort?. In it, WLFI-TV West Lafayette reports that:

A part of Frankfort's downtown could be the home of some major creek side development that would mirror Indianapolis's downtown canal.

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Sure it is

Nonthaburi, Thailand

#1 Apr 19, 2013
Bring on the bonds for the Stellar Grant.

Bring on the bonds to support the payroll for city employees.

Bring on the lawsuits that the plaintiffs will win. Then the insurance will pay and our rates will go up. Bring on more bonds.

If the mayor has been overseeing the "savings" of the depts, then I can't wait to see April's budget from Suter's office to confirm his statements.

Since: Jul 10

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#2 Apr 19, 2013
Yes, Frankfort should stay mired in the past. Progress is bad.
Sure it is

Nonthaburi, Thailand

#3 Apr 19, 2013
No progress isn't bad you dumbass, spending all of our money and then asking for more through bonds to get stupid things like a canal walk is asinine.

But of course only sane sensible people would understand it cause you sure as hell don't.
Major Flaw

Advance, IN

#4 Apr 20, 2013
Is that the best you have, NAME CALLING, you better go now, your being called in from recess! Its nap time.
Say what

Albania

#5 Apr 20, 2013
So you think it's ok for a broke city to spend money foolishly?

You do realize that if we get this GRANT, that we will have to pony up some denero as well?

Ivy has sucked us dry. If you would take some time and review the city balance sheet, you would see that we are going to be screwed in a matter of months.

Then the USB will again bail out the stupid spending.

Then there's the issue with the Old Stoney project.

Why are people soooooo blind to all of this?

Since: Jul 10

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#6 Apr 21, 2013
Say what wrote:
So you think it's ok for a broke city to spend money foolishly?
You do realize that if we get this GRANT, that we will have to pony up some denero as well?
Ivy has sucked us dry. If you would take some time and review the city balance sheet, you would see that we are going to be screwed in a matter of months.
Then the USB will again bail out the stupid spending.
Then there's the issue with the Old Stoney project.
Why are people soooooo blind to all of this?
Yes, Frankfort should stay mired in the past. Progress is bad.

Don't you realize that sometimes you have to make investment now in order to realize the payout later?
Tired of all the Crooks

Frankfort, IN

#7 May 15, 2013
what good would a canal walk serve? the mass majority of the people in this community are not going to support it anyway, just look at downtown, it is usually the same people that frequent the businesses there.
Tired of you

Frankfort, IN

#8 May 15, 2013
Actually, the downtown is drawing more people. How do you know that no one will support a canal walk? It might be nice to have a place like that to stroll without fear of breaking your neck tripping on a broken sidewalk.

As a community, we should be honored if we receive the Stellar Communities award. That would be a HUGE influx of money coming to the community. The concern...we have to match a portion of it. Tell you what, if you agree to give me $1,000 to paint my house as long as I will pay $100 additionally myself I will gladly take your money. Wake up. This isn't a Trojan horse, it's a real opportunity.
Tired of Tired of you

Nonthaburi, Thailand

#9 May 15, 2013
Tired of you wrote:
Actually, the downtown is drawing more people. How do you know that no one will support a canal walk? It might be nice to have a place like that to stroll without fear of breaking your neck tripping on a broken sidewalk.
As a community, we should be honored if we receive the Stellar Communities award. That would be a HUGE influx of money coming to the community. The concern...we have to match a portion of it. Tell you what, if you agree to give me $1,000 to paint my house as long as I will pay $100 additionally myself I will gladly take your money. Wake up. This isn't a Trojan horse, it's a real opportunity.
You think downtown is drawing more people? Prove it.

"Tired of all the Crooks" owns a business downtown. In that business, they come across various community leaders as well as citizens. They also attend various city meetings, gives openly to the community events.

They would know first hand whether their business has increased or not.

This person knows what's happening in Frankfort. Their complaints and comments are spot on about certain individuals that they post on.

Here's a question for you: "If Frankfort downtown business is up, then why is The Farmers Bank's asset value continuing to go down"? Now don't go blaming Deford or the other people from yesteryear for that either.

Why did David Klippel sell his business to corporate Arnis? Why hasn't Plunder on the Square paid their back taxes? They even have a tenant living on the second floor.

Why hasn't Faith Harvest, better known as Flavor's, paid their back taxes?

Why has no one leased the old Clark Appliance building if things are hustling and bustling downtown?

All these things add up to some people not being honest with themselves, or not wanting to see the reality of things.

It's Frankfort Folks... A quiet community with an median income that does not support what a few people are suggesting needs to happen.

Why is it so wrong for people to be pissed off about spending money that we don't have? I challenge anyone to refute any of this.

Is the Stellar Grant a great opportunity? Indeed it is. But putting lipstick on pigs doesn't make them look any better. A special little canal area, Ivy Tech, and cutting down more trees for stupid flowers is not going to make Frankfort more attractive to outsiders.

Does Frankfort need to be trying to move forward? You betcha. But not at a 3 million dollar plus expense of the taxpayers. And that's just IVT. Then there will be a bond for Stellar if received, and a bond to fix up Ol' Stoney (which needs to be done).

At least the council did the right thing by putting the brakes on the resolutions of the Economic Development Plan.

And punjab, don't be pulling the "troll", "are you running for", "so Frankfort should just stay in the past" or any other of your gibberish. If you can't refute these things with facts, then hush up.
Tired of all the Crooks

Frankfort, IN

#10 May 16, 2013
WOW!! This is VERY well said and spot on!! It is very Refreshing to see someone with their eye NOT wide shut. Thanks for the support. If only there were about a thousand more people like you out there, maybe just maybe we could all begin to turn this community around. Thanks again!!
Tired of Tired of you wrote:
<quoted text>
You think downtown is drawing more people? Prove it.
"Tired of all the Crooks" owns a business downtown. In that business, they come across various community leaders as well as citizens. They also attend various city meetings, gives openly to the community events.
They would know first hand whether their business has increased or not.
This person knows what's happening in Frankfort. Their complaints and comments are spot on about certain individuals that they post on.
Here's a question for you: "If Frankfort downtown business is up, then why is The Farmers Bank's asset value continuing to go down"? Now don't go blaming Deford or the other people from yesteryear for that either.
Why did David Klippel sell his business to corporate Arnis? Why hasn't Plunder on the Square paid their back taxes? They even have a tenant living on the second floor.
Why hasn't Faith Harvest, better known as Flavor's, paid their back taxes?
Why has no one leased the old Clark Appliance building if things are hustling and bustling downtown?
All these things add up to some people not being honest with themselves, or not wanting to see the reality of things.
It's Frankfort Folks... A quiet community with an median income that does not support what a few people are suggesting needs to happen.
Why is it so wrong for people to be pissed off about spending money that we don't have? I challenge anyone to refute any of this.
Is the Stellar Grant a great opportunity? Indeed it is. But putting lipstick on pigs doesn't make them look any better. A special little canal area, Ivy Tech, and cutting down more trees for stupid flowers is not going to make Frankfort more attractive to outsiders.
Does Frankfort need to be trying to move forward? You betcha. But not at a 3 million dollar plus expense of the taxpayers. And that's just IVT. Then there will be a bond for Stellar if received, and a bond to fix up Ol' Stoney (which needs to be done).
At least the council did the right thing by putting the brakes on the resolutions of the Economic Development Plan.
And punjab, don't be pulling the "troll", "are you running for", "so Frankfort should just stay in the past" or any other of your gibberish. If you can't refute these things with facts, then hush up.

Since: Jul 10

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#11 May 16, 2013
Tired of Tired of you wrote:
A special little canal area, Ivy Tech, and cutting down more trees for stupid flowers is not going to make Frankfort more attractive to outsiders.
Does Frankfort need to be trying to move forward? You betcha. But not at a 3 million dollar plus expense of the taxpayers. And that's just IVT. Then there will be a bond for Stellar if received, and a bond to fix up Ol' Stoney (which needs to be done).
Then by all means please tell us your ideas about what would make Frankfort more attractive to outsiders. What price do you put on trying to move the city forward?
Challenger

Cynthiana, KY

#12 May 16, 2013
punjab wrote:
<quoted text>
Then by all means please tell us your ideas about what would make Frankfort more attractive to outsiders. What price do you put on trying to move the city forward?
MUDA there is an old saying "don't throw good money after bad". Frankfort will never be the same city it was back in the 50's and 60's. The best thing Frankfort can do for the taxpayers is maintain what it currently has, and don't waste money on things that most taxpayers will never use.
Tired of all the Crooks

Frankfort, IN

#13 May 16, 2013
I don't have any ideas, maybe the main street window person can save us...oh wait, she is still trying to figure out the downtown parking issue and how to dodge paying for her employees social security. maybe we should start by ridding ourselves of this dead weight. What is it exactly that main street brings to Frankfort and don't say the hotdog festival because I believe that the Chamber of Commerce does most of the work on this project, after all what else do they have to do.

Since: Jul 10

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#14 May 16, 2013
Challenger wrote:
<quoted text>
MUDA there is an old saying "don't throw good money after bad". Frankfort will never be the same city it was back in the 50's and 60's. The best thing Frankfort can do for the taxpayers is maintain what it currently has, and don't waste money on things that most taxpayers will never use.
In others words, stay mired in the past. Gotcha.
Well

Nonthaburi, Thailand

#15 May 16, 2013
punjab wrote:
<quoted text>
Then by all means please tell us your ideas about what would make Frankfort more attractive to outsiders. What price do you put on trying to move the city forward?
For starter, I wouldn't being blowing taxpayers money on a renovation of the Old Times bldg for a school. I would encourage them to fill the two rooms that they had at the Frankfort Library. They could use Skanta Theatre as a great lecture hall too. When they started getting 100 people enrolled in 5 classes a week for 4 semesters, then I would be glad to sit down and chat about some bldgs that they could use. I've heard several mention Southside School and the old Emerson bldg. Both great ideas and would save the taxpayers a shitload of money. Why? Because IVT could renovate it themselves.

Secondly, I wouldn't be doing a canal project. Why? Because it costs way to much money. That isn't going to attract businesses nor manufacturing facilities. Wicked infrastructure does that.

A redundant power and fiber system, to the industrial park as well as electric, water and sewage to the interstate would be advisable as well.

Removing all of the current Economic development people and get some who aren't so closed minded about lower paying companies coming to Clinton County. If you have been around here long enough, you will remember that Frito Lay came in a bit above minimum wage in the 70's, and now they are a good paying company.

Frankfort has always been a "folksy" town since the 1800's. Why can't a few people accept that we are not a bedroom community for Indy, Lafayette, or Kokomo?

When will they accept that the leadership for the county and the city has been, for the most part, closed minded about what an OVERWHELMING ABUNDANCE of the community wants???

What do they want? Cleaned up neighborhoods, a Balanced School System that will be open and accountable, honest leaders who aren't concerned about making "their" mark before they head off somewhere else. They desire to be heard. But the last 4 decades have all but shut them down. I know they have me.

So Punjab... I would ask that money is spent wisely, infrastructure be developed to I 65 to create more revenue, and for our town and county to be freed of the blight and closed-minded politicians.

Now, I have to ask you, out of respect, please justify to me and the other residents of Frankfort, along with the Clinton County residents too, how you can justify what currently is being pursued by your administration.
He did

Lebanon, IN

#16 May 16, 2013
Well I have to agree with you 100 percent.

Since: Sep 11

Michigantown, IN

#17 May 16, 2013
Wonderfully put "Well" I was up near Tipton today. Guess where the IVY campus is there? At the Fairground! That was offered to them in Frankfort, along with South Side and the Emerson Building. Shan (the man) stated on WILO that IVY refused ANYTHING but the TIMES building. Why is it I can't believe this? City and County tax monies had to help pay for this mess, IVY pays NOTHING and THEY pick the spot? And WHAT the blazes are they talkin about a Canal Walk? Does ANYONE wanna Walk through or NEAR Prarie Creek water? I agree that revitalization is good for ANY city BUT at what cost? McBarnes said himself on WILO there was like $400,000 in the coffers and they don't get a draw from taxes till June. It takes $400,000 a month ta pay the bills for Frankfort. THAT was in APRIL. THEN he popped off and said there was $14 Million in "other" accounts. That "other" is the USB. An EX mayor and ExClerk Tried that there Mr Mayor and ALMOST went ta JAIL! Ya can't pay the Cities bills out of the USB's funds. Thats called COERSION. Anyone can look that up by the way it's at the State Board of Accounts. Don't forget there "Jabby" we here in the COUNTY are wrapped up in the IVY mess as well!

Since: Jul 10

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#19 May 17, 2013
Well wrote:
<quoted text>
For starter, I wouldn't being blowing taxpayers money on a renovation of the Old Times bldg for a school. I would encourage them to fill the two rooms that they had at the Frankfort Library. They could use Skanta Theatre as a great lecture hall too. When they started getting 100 people enrolled in 5 classes a week for 4 semesters, then I would be glad to sit down and chat about some bldgs that they could use. I've heard several mention Southside School and the old Emerson bldg. Both great ideas and would save the taxpayers a shitload of money. Why? Because IVT could renovate it themselves.
Secondly, I wouldn't be doing a canal project. Why? Because it costs way to much money. That isn't going to attract businesses nor manufacturing facilities. Wicked infrastructure does that.
A redundant power and fiber system, to the industrial park as well as electric, water and sewage to the interstate would be advisable as well.
Removing all of the current Economic development people and get some who aren't so closed minded about lower paying companies coming to Clinton County. If you have been around here long enough, you will remember that Frito Lay came in a bit above minimum wage in the 70's, and now they are a good paying company.
Frankfort has always been a "folksy" town since the 1800's. Why can't a few people accept that we are not a bedroom community for Indy, Lafayette, or Kokomo?
When will they accept that the leadership for the county and the city has been, for the most part, closed minded about what an OVERWHELMING ABUNDANCE of the community wants???
What do they want? Cleaned up neighborhoods, a Balanced School System that will be open and accountable, honest leaders who aren't concerned about making "their" mark before they head off somewhere else. They desire to be heard. But the last 4 decades have all but shut them down. I know they have me.
So Punjab... I would ask that money is spent wisely, infrastructure be developed to I 65 to create more revenue, and for our town and county to be freed of the blight and closed-minded politicians.
Now, I have to ask you, out of respect, please justify to me and the other residents of Frankfort, along with the Clinton County residents too, how you can justify what currently is being pursued by your administration.
Thank you for your response.

First of all it's YOUR administration as well if you are a citizen of Frankfort. And in the interest of disclosure I did NOT vote for Mr. McBarnes.

And many times you have to commit to spending money in order to make money down the road. I want a Frankfort that is growing and thriving, not mired in no-growth as it is now. I'm willing to pony up a little more in taxes in order to help that growth which will ultimately grow the overall tax base and increase property values. But if the cheapskates don't like what the current administration is trying to accomplish they have a couple of choices. They can vote out the current administration or they can move to another community that better reflects their skinflint values.

Since: Jul 10

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#20 May 17, 2013
nu-viewer wrote:
Don't forget there "Jabby" we here in the COUNTY are wrapped up in the IVY mess as well!
Yes God forbid most of the hayseeds out in the country would want to become more educated.

Since: Jun 12

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#21 May 17, 2013
Maybe the Coomer & Sons Sawmill could donate the pallets for this board walk, and the sheriff could get the jail trustee's to lay them down, and get that Brian Pitzer to sing at the grand opening. Taxpayer contribution zero!!!
This is Frankfort the real Gems are our people who love this place......Yea Right LMFAO!!!!

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