Springboro School Salaries
SupportSEA

Englewood, OH

#62 May 1, 2013
I support our teachers and staff...they deserve a 10% raise this year no questions asked. Our administrators should get 20% and a stipend every time they have to deal with one of the tea party whack-jobs.
Laughing

Batavia, OH

#63 May 7, 2013
As a resident, I know many of the kids from sports teams with my kids, many of the parents from my business, and many of the teachers in Springboro and Centerville. I know very few teachers who are lazy or uncaring. Sure, there are some - just as there are lazy and uncaring workers in any profession. But that is the exception, not the rule.

What I find myself laughing (or is it crying) about is the number of asinine comments saying the educators are the problem. Sorry, Boro, your educators are the least of your problems. Start with your bankrupt Kohls, your home-schooling board member, your administrator carousel because they can't work with the stupidity of the board, the parents who felt it was more important to buy a $500K home then save, the residents who complain about taxes EXCEPT the sales tax on their Lexus, Hummer, or other luxury car, the residents who won't vote for any levy but don't mind using Centerville's library or parks, and finally the seniors who want social security raises, Medicare full coverage but don't want anyone else to ever get a raise.

The teachers in Springboro are like other residents - they pay Boro city taxes (even if the school is not located in the city limits, they pay more every year for worse insurance, they work long hours, they put up with parents who don't care or think their child is special and should be treated that way. They put up with the aforementioned stupid school board, ever changing curriculum from our legislature, a review system that at best is inconsistent. They pay for their own continuing education, classroom supplies, and required certificates. They work long hours - i would venture to guess more than a lot of you, less than a lot of you. They are teachers,
Counselors, disciplinarians, rule makers, and friends to the kids - many of which come from some type of family with issues.The pension system is in lieu of social security and matching 401(k)s. And no, they have not had raises for years. So quit treating them like crap just so you think you sound educated and smart. You are not.

If you truly believe teachers don't make a difference, you are either really stupid or really pathetic. Oh, by the way, that is a multiple choice question. Either answer is wrong for the kids.

If you want to sound smart, quit listening to Kohls (who, by the way, thought it would be a good idea to let the kindergarten children play at lunch with baseball bats - check the April school board minutes) and start really paying attention to your board members intentions.
Inquiring Minds

Cincinnati, OH

#64 May 8, 2013
Inquiring minds are now asking if the latest red ribbon "support our teachers" campaign is not symbolism over substance. Are there any among our parents and community members who do not support our teachers?
We can all rally the red in support of our teacher’s rights to negotiate themselves A Fair Day's Pay For A Fair Day's Work;
But, can we all support the “status quo business as usual” old, outdated teachers union rights to walk out on our children's classroom education?
Why not add a white ribbon in support of our students' rights to receive a quality education, while keeping the costs of that education affordable for Springboro parents and taxpaying homeowners?
Red and white ribbons showing strong support for our teachers and children are made strongest by adding a blue ribbon of support for our school board representatives, school district administrative staff, and school district taxpayers? Can our community as a whole support our teachers and staff separate from support of our school district taxpayers and their elected officials?
Why not rally for the unity of red, white, and blue supporting substance over symbolism? Let's all rally in support of ALL working together to ensure that the children of the Springboro community receive an excellent education while keeping the costs of that education affordable, by carefully adhering to responsible spending!
LOL in Boro

Cincinnati, OH

#65 May 8, 2013
The Apriul 25 issue of Springboro Sun reports rally held to support teachers which concludes by stating....

..."they deserve to be treated with respect. We will keep speaking out until they get it."

So, if the teachers want respect, then why didn't they "come and get it" at the last board meeting? Mr. Petrey had the TV cameras turned on and the "certificiates of recognition and appreciation" ready to hand out to teachers; but why did only a few show up to accept the respect and applause of their fellow staff members, school board members, parents and school district voters?

A bit awkward for Mr. Petrey trying to honor outstanding work of his teachers, on the same day that news of teachers protesting against district leaders "for due respect" was released;
And those attending realized that due respect from teachers was not given to school district leaders and board members. April 25th wasn't a good day for our school superintendent, when one of his social studies teachers stood up and protested the state policy requiring public schools to Observe Constitution Day!
Mr. Petrey seemed a bit embarrassed at being pulled into the SEA youth union activism when he tried making light of including students input on who should be hired as principals for "the students' schools!"
One wonders if Mr. Petrey conducts a survey at home to find out "what kind of Dad that his children want him to be!"
LOL in boro....all this professional educator leadership for the lump sum package of $130,000/yearly salary!
SOS

Cincinnati, OH

#66 May 8, 2013
SOS to Mr. P.....

What people NEED and what they WANT may be very different....

Teachers are those who EDUCATE the people to appreciate the things they NEED.

-Elbert Hubbard
Open the Government

Miamisburg, OH

#67 May 8, 2013
Once again with the 'starve the beast' mentality, which leads me to wonder when this strategy actually works? Don't get me wrong. I understand the need for us to tighten our belts, and that corruption exists at every level (including the fundraising). But what are we actually solving by punishing our teachers?

I'll tell you this much, if you come at every problem with a knife and a threat: "I'm gunna cut you," you're part of the problem.
Buckeye Taxpayers

Cincinnati, OH

#68 May 8, 2013
Open the Government wrote:
Once again with the 'starve the beast' mentality, which leads me to wonder when this strategy actually works? Don't get me wrong. I understand the need for us to tighten our belts, and that corruption exists at every level (including the fundraising). But what are we actually solving by punishing our teachers?
I'll tell you this much, if you come at every problem with a knife and a threat: "I'm gunna cut you," you're part of the problem.
Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.- Ronald Reagan

Ohio's political system is owned by big labor unions and taxpayers can't get a break no matter which party is in power. Elections come and go, but state politicians continue embracing forced unionization, from which they benefit to the dollar signs of double dipping into taxpayers wallets.

The powers that be in Columbus have now given themselves big wage and benfits increases; and cut funding to local schools and public safety services; expecting that local teachers unions, local firefighters unions, and police unions can just attack local taxpayers with emotional blackmailing campaigns to Pay Up or else we will "cut services" hurting you, your family, and your property! What kind of government does this to its own citizens, while all along deceiving the public with threats to punish the taxpayers who are paying for these services?

The powers that be know that average citizens going about their hard working jobs and taking care of family responsibilities will not have the time, nor the expertise, to dig into public financial records and learn the whole truth.
A definitive study for local government workers is hard to do, given the lack of transparency. But what is clear from our school district fiscal date is that compensation packages for school employees are exceeding available tax revenues and outpacing inflation year after year.
This escalation in compensation package costs is being placed on the back of taxpayers, resulting in exploding property taxes.
Springboro parents and taxpaying voters in this school district can no longer afford this heavy tax burden; we cannot afford indebting ourselves further to our local schools and public safety government workers. Our local government must reduce their cost of providing services to taxpayers, with no new taxes.
Enough is Enough! The time has come for all good citizenes to strengthen ourselves to do more with less government "care-taking."
Responsible Choice of NO

Cincinnati, OH

#69 May 8, 2013
Open the Government wrote:
Once again with the 'starve the beast' mentality, which leads me to wonder when this strategy actually works? Don't get me wrong. I understand the need for us to tighten our belts, and that corruption exists at every level (including the fundraising). But what are we actually solving by punishing our teachers?
I'll tell you this much, if you come at every problem with a knife and a threat: "I'm gunna cut you," you're part of the problem.
It is true that Mr. Kidd campaigned AGAINST local citizens(proving government to be the problem) with his "threats" of "I'm gonna cut you life saving services if you don't shut up, just trust the government, and say yes to 3!

A government who serves with self-serving tactics of intimidation and fear (and then goes out stopping traffic to hand out life savers candy pieces, begging please help us help you say yes t 3)
is the greatest public safety endangerment that citizens face in our township/city nieghborhoods.

The nie most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
-Ronald Reagan

“Civic Innovation Designer”

Since: Mar 11

Springboro, Ohio

#70 May 8, 2013
Buckeye Taxpayers wrote:
Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.- Ronald Reagan
While I agree that government is the problem, starving the beast is not the solution! To paraphrase Tim O'Reilly, most of us look at government as a vending machine. We put money in, and when we don't get what we want, we start kicking it, believing that will somehow solve the problem!

His solution is to look at government as a platform, like something that is open to everyone, which we can all access and build our own solutions. Look at Amazon and it's ability to allow customers to create their own storefronts, or Apple and Google, and their mobile platforms that have created an entirely new app economy.

To look at our local government as a platform challenges us to create an essential toolkit that the residents of Springboro can use to build our community.
exploding

Springboro, OH

#71 May 8, 2013
Buckeye Taxpayers wrote:
<quoted text>
Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.- Ronald Reagan
Ohio's political system is owned by big labor unions and taxpayers can't get a break no matter which party is in power. Elections come and go, but state politicians continue embracing forced unionization, from which they benefit to the dollar signs of double dipping into taxpayers wallets.
The powers that be in Columbus have now given themselves big wage and benfits increases; and cut funding to local schools and public safety services; expecting that local teachers unions, local firefighters unions, and police unions can just attack local taxpayers with emotional blackmailing campaigns to Pay Up or else we will "cut services" hurting you, your family, and your property! What kind of government does this to its own citizens, while all along deceiving the public with threats to punish the taxpayers who are paying for these services?
The powers that be know that average citizens going about their hard working jobs and taking care of family responsibilities will not have the time, nor the expertise, to dig into public financial records and learn the whole truth.
A definitive study for local government workers is hard to do, given the lack of transparency. But what is clear from our school district fiscal date is that compensation packages for school employees are exceeding available tax revenues and outpacing inflation year after year.
This escalation in compensation package costs is being placed on the back of taxpayers, resulting in exploding property taxes.
Springboro parents and taxpaying voters in this school district can no longer afford this heavy tax burden; we cannot afford indebting ourselves further to our local schools and public safety government workers. Our local government must reduce their cost of providing services to taxpayers, with no new taxes.
Enough is Enough! The time has come for all good citizenes to strengthen ourselves to do more with less government "care-taking."
Interesting...."exploding property taxes"? From 2009 to today, my tax bill has gone up a total of $11 per half. Is that exploding? In fact, between 2011 to 2012, it actually went DOWN $39 per half. Is that exploding?

And a "definitive study for the local government worker is hard to do due to lack of transparency." Hmmm....have you ever simply asked for the information you seek to do a "definitive study"?(Whatever that means) Yeah, I know, I know, they won't give it to me, they are hiding secrets, they will retaliate against me....blah blah

And no increases for at least two years for a super-majority of school employees is "outpacing inflation"? We have had negative inflation??? That's news to me.
Hey Good Neighbor

Cincinnati, OH

#72 May 8, 2013
exploding wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting...."exploding property taxes"? From 2009 to today, my tax bill has gone up a total of $11 per half. Is that exploding? In fact, between 2011 to 2012, it actually went DOWN $39 per half. Is that exploding?
And a "definitive study for the local government worker is hard to do due to lack of transparency." Hmmm....have you ever simply asked for the information you seek to do a "definitive study"?(Whatever that means) Yeah, I know, I know, they won't give it to me, they are hiding secrets, they will retaliate against me....blah blah
And no increases for at least two years for a super-majority of school employees is "outpacing inflation"? We have had negative inflation??? That's news to me.
hey good neighbor .... talk to the state!

the political powers that be in Columbus filled their wallets with big increases of taxpayers money; cut local funding; then let the union bullies out on local taxpayers saying "Tax Them If You Can." Taxpayers only have one defense against this OEA/SEA War of Words launched against us and that is JUST SAY NO!
We're In It To Win It! We can't Afford to CAVE in to the mean spirited emotional blackmailing of our good buddies -- the Union Masters of "Community."

The OEA members are some of the worst people I have ever had to deal with as to radical social behavior; because to the OEA radicals they are at war with the taxpayers.
They have the destruction of America in their minds and they are terrible people because their ideology makes them corrosive. They openly use children to execute their maniacal plans for social progressive changes at the expense of society, and this defines their essence. Wars are won by taking away from the other side the will to continue fighting. The OEA attacks them directly hoping to rob them of their will to stand opposed to the union’s progressive agenda.

Springboro parents and taxpaying voters know that our union employees have it so A-M-A-Z-I-N-G-L-Y good with job security and good wages and benefits! We just don't know WHY all this goodness has brought such darkness of spirit into the SEA union tent of greed.

Taxpayers are out of work, out of money, and our ot pity for the "victim project" supporting our teachers. Local taxpayers cannot Afford to CAVE in to the mean spirited emotional blackmailing of our good buddies -- the Union Masters of "Community."
Hey Good Neighbor

Cincinnati, OH

#73 May 8, 2013
christopherritter wrote:
<quoted text>
While I agree that government is the problem, starving the beast is not the solution! To paraphrase Tim O'Reilly, most of us look at government as a vending machine. We put money in, and when we don't get what we want, we start kicking it, believing that will somehow solve the problem!
His solution is to look at government as a platform, like something that is open to everyone, which we can all access and build our own solutions. Look at Amazon and it's ability to allow customers to create their own storefronts, or Apple and Google, and their mobile platforms that have created an entirely new app economy.
To look at our local government as a platform challenges us to create an essential toolkit that the residents of Springboro can use to build our community.
This is America ... the residents of Springboro are free "to build their own community" with their own tool box; but when my neighbors try bullying me into giving them MY tool box to "build their own community" then I am going to stand firm and...
Just Say NO. God Bless America!

Balancing the budget is a little like protecting your virtue;
you just have to learn to say 'no.'
-Ronald Reagan

Laughing still

Batavia, OH

#74 May 8, 2013
To: Hey good neighbor

I'm truly sorry for the stupidity, bigotry, and ignorance God blessed upon you.

Enjoy your life. Sad as it is.
Say It Again

Cincinnati, OH

#75 May 9, 2013
Hey Good Neighbor wrote:
<quoted text>
hey good neighbor .... talk to the state!
the political powers that be in Columbus filled their wallets with big increases of taxpayers money; cut local funding; then let the union bullies out on local taxpayers saying "Tax Them If You Can." Taxpayers only have one defense against this OEA/SEA War of Words launched against us and that is JUST SAY NO!
We're In It To Win It! We can't Afford to CAVE in to the mean spirited emotional blackmailing of our good buddies -- the Union Masters of "Community."
The OEA members are some of the worst people I have ever had to deal with as to radical social behavior; because to the OEA radicals they are at war with the taxpayers.
They have the destruction of America in their minds and they are terrible people because their ideology makes them corrosive. They openly use children to execute their maniacal plans for social progressive changes at the expense of society, and this defines their essence. Wars are won by taking away from the other side the will to continue fighting. The OEA attacks them directly hoping to rob them of their will to stand opposed to the union’s progressive agenda.
Springboro parents and taxpaying voters know that our union employees have it so A-M-A-Z-I-N-G-L-Y good with job security and good wages and benefits! We just don't know WHY all this goodness has brought such darkness of spirit into the SEA union tent of greed.
Taxpayers are out of work, out of money, and our ot pity for the "victim project" supporting our teachers. Local taxpayers cannot Afford to CAVE in to the mean spirited emotional blackmailing of our good buddies -- the Union Masters of "Community."
Thanks, good neighbor!

Isn't it great in Springboro, with the laws of Sunshine smiling upon us, saying 'have a nice day' with your responsible choice of NO!

Our Springboro families and students just couldn't thrive without our citizens voting for reponsible spending... keeping our schools and community.... Safe, Strong AND Affordable! We love Successful Springboro!

Thanks, good neighbor!
accountability

Cleveland, OH

#76 May 9, 2013
Open the Government wrote:
Once again with the 'starve the beast' mentality, which leads me to wonder when this strategy actually works? Don't get me wrong. I understand the need for us to tighten our belts, and that corruption exists at every level (including the fundraising). But what are we actually solving by punishing our teachers?
Just like Strongsville, in my opinion there is not a BOE agenda in the current OEA/SEA negotiations that is in any way intended to "punish" Springboro teachers.

Rather, the central argument being put forth by the BOE majority is built around a much bigger picture - the collective futures of Springboro's children.

If at our respective jobs we were deemed as consistently performing at a subpar level by our managers, we probably wouldn't be seeing a raise come performance review time. If we did, it probably would be negligible.

If at our respective jobs we were deemed as having consistently exceeded expectations of our managers, we most certainly would see a raise come performance review time. And because of our standout performance, this raise certainly could be substantial.

Any teacher's performance should in no way be exclusive to the logic within the last two paragraghs.

Let's cut to the chase. If our children are to grow up to become successful citizens, they need to witness living, breathing examples of success as well as failure. Almost all of Springboro's students if asked, especially older ones, will gladly name off many of Springboro's teachers in every grade level who are driven and dedicated to learning. Conversely, they'll also tell you all about many "bad teachers" that come to the classroom each day, and frankly do nothing for our kids than go through the motions of their respective job descriptions.

It's time Springboro teachers' pay raises be based not upon a teachers union timetable, but rather their respective PERFORMANCE IN THE CLASSROOM.
LOL

Cincinnati, OH

#77 May 10, 2013
exploding wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting...."exploding property taxes"? From 2009 to today, my tax bill has gone up a total of $11 per half. Is that exploding? In fact, between 2011 to 2012, it actually went DOWN $39 per half. Is that exploding?
And a "definitive study for the local government worker is hard to do due to lack of transparency." Hmmm....have you ever simply asked for the information you seek to do a "definitive study"?(Whatever that means) Yeah, I know, I know, they won't give it to me, they are hiding secrets, they will retaliate against me....blah blah
And no increases for at least two years for a super-majority of school employees is "outpacing inflation"? We have had negative inflation??? That's news to me.
Only in the land of forced unionization would it be time for a Victim Project feeling pity for "no increases for at least two
years!" What about 5 years? Resistance to pity makes one stronger. Be thankful for what you've got; it may be as good as it's going to get; Stop bullying your neighbors for more.

really

Englewood, OH

#78 May 10, 2013
Responsible Choice of NO wrote:
<quoted text>
It is true that Mr. Kidd campaigned AGAINST local citizens(proving government to be the problem) with his "threats" of "I'm gonna cut you life saving services if you don't shut up, just trust the government, and say yes to 3!
A government who serves with self-serving tactics of intimidation and fear (and then goes out stopping traffic to hand out life savers candy pieces, begging please help us help you say yes t 3)
is the greatest public safety endangerment that citizens face in our township/city nieghborhoods.
The nie most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
-Ronald Reagan
You must be the biggest retard that ever sat in front of a keyboard....
No Tax Jack

Englewood, OH

#79 May 10, 2013
Hi kids! No Tax Jack here!

I've still got a bunch of generic "vote no on levy" signs that I can't wait to put up all around town this fall. We'll be out littering the neighborhoods again to defeat the school levy with lies just like we did the fire department. Before long we'll go from excellent with distinction to fiscal emergency! I'm so excited!

At any rate, it won't matter to me much - I'll be watching the whole situation from the jacuzzi in my $500,000 mansion. Did I mention I don't work for a living and I pay half of what you do in taxes?!!

See, my kids are out of school (two of them are felons and the state takes care of them) so I really don't care what happens to our local schools. I don't plan to sell my property either, if times get really tough I'll just walk away like my girl Kelly Kohls did. I've got two tickets to Tahiti just waiting if the creditors ever show up.

Just remember gang...this isn't about your child's education, this is about making sure I can keep skirting the system to avoid paying my fair share.

Hide your moms, and for that matter your grandmas too! I'll be out in your neighborhood soon!
Really

Cincinnati, OH

#80 May 10, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be the biggest retard that ever sat in front of a keyboard....
really...you must be the smallest minded unnecessary evil that ever spewed forth foolishness on this blog.
Just Remember

Cincinnati, OH

#81 May 10, 2013
No Tax Jack wrote:
Hi kids! No Tax Jack here!
I've still got a bunch of generic "vote no on levy" signs that I can't wait to put up all around town this fall. We'll be out littering the neighborhoods again to defeat the school levy with lies just like we did the fire department. Before long we'll go from excellent with distinction to fiscal emergency! I'm so excited!
At any rate, it won't matter to me much - I'll be watching the whole situation from the jacuzzi in my $500,000 mansion. Did I mention I don't work for a living and I pay half of what you do in taxes?!!
See, my kids are out of school (two of them are felons and the state takes care of them) so I really don't care what happens to our local schools. I don't plan to sell my property either, if times get really tough I'll just walk away like my girl Kelly Kohls did. I've got two tickets to Tahiti just waiting if the creditors ever show up.
Just remember gang...this isn't about your child's education, this is about making sure I can keep skirting the system to avoid paying my fair share.
Hide your moms, and for that matter your grandmas too! I'll be out in your neighborhood soon!
This unnecessary evil is really that old burned out unionman that tried to make Township First in highest taxes...with endorsements of his FD Wall of Shame... Scott Maney, Ron Malone, Sarah Jobe
among others...

Just remember, the only thing we have to fear is fear of those who prey upon us to deceive....

Just remember, those government workers roaming through our neighborhoods in their "life saving" uniforms begging citizens ... let us help you help us to more of YOUR earnings and life savings.

Just remember, the government can cut services off if you don't pay up; endangering your loved ones and your property... be very afraid to say no....

Just remember when the CCFD comes calling for MORE second time around in November.....

"Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other."
(Ronald Reagan)

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