Springboro Teachers at meeting
Higher Ground

Cincinnati, OH

#41 Jan 13, 2013
One of the best exercises we can do to maintain a quiet spirit is to talk to ourselves of good things such as kindness, gratitude, thankfulness
and always remember at least three prayer wishes for emergency use...

"Three things in human life are important,

the first is to be kind,
the second is to be kind.
the third is to be kind."
Higher Ground

Cincinnati, OH

#42 Jan 13, 2013
Remember: doctors pledge to "first, do no harm." We can go one step further: First, we will be kind. Let us approach every situation looking for ways to be kind t others. Even if our kindness isn't returned, we will be better for setting any example and living up to our principles.

(and always remember what I remember my Mom telling me: you better watch out what you say my child, Your Heavenly Father always listens to you).
Proud Parent Boro Grads

Dayton, OH

#43 Jan 14, 2013
Higher Ground wrote:
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Just Count to 10 and relax.. all those caps and quotes indicate increasing stress... breath deeply...
Now we get it that you have blown your mind with all this jeering and sneering at the second half of the meeting. Just want to tell you my friend that I listened quietly to everything that was said and all I heard board member Mr. Petroni say was nothing but simply stating the facts of his board comments summary (which we all know Mr. Petroni has expertise in doing so well, either calmly or emphatically which ever is needed to get across needed talking points).
My next point:(and I will walk through this with you very slowly)
did you hear other board members' closing comments?
did you hear one board member say that we should treat others in the same kind way that we would like others to treat us?
(Now I don't know if this is working for you, but I am beginning to think of you as a fellow human being that has feelings just like me).
Picture yourself (or even your child) at work or at play or at school being treated with unkind jeering in the same unkind way in which you are jeering at others on this blog.
Now if you cannot feel any emotional discomfort that what you are doing is hurtful to another human being who has feeling just like you and those you love, then you need to talk to a family member who loves you about your inability to feel emphathy, or go talk to a specialist in mental health care.
I think most can understand why the board majority feels frustrated...because they did not get their way the other night. The School board members are elected and expected to be professional, not rant for aproximately 30 minutes (combined) about how their character was assassinated. It was a "rough board meeting". This is light in comparison to the Gary Maier/Cindy Garland times.
I don't think anyone cares for the conflict that has ensued. I will however state, that when you create an environment of mistrust and you involve people's children, they will be passionate about it. Combine the mistrust with board members doing radio and tv interviews, making trips to Westerville and almost bragging about how they have changed things in Springboro, you begin to think, hmmm.....they do have more on their agendas than simply making things better in Springboro.(btw, look up the youtube videos & you will find it)
There is always room for improvement in anything. Our world is constantly changing, technology changes rapidly, and our kids are competing in a global world & economy. We have to support change for our kids to remain competitive (which does not mean a charter school).
I am in no way pro union and I am a conservative, however I do believe in treating our teachers fairly. Yes, everyone should be evaluated; however, not live and work in fear everyday when you go to work. The teaching profession has long been underpaid and not respected to its full capacity. I am all for accountability. It works both ways and our community needs to hold our school board accountable for their actions. I do not know Mr. Miller personally, but I do know what I have seen and observed. He truly is the voice of reason and tries very hard to listen to the voters, parents, and teachers. He tries to keep the railroad tactics of the BOE majority from happening. Thank you Mr. Miller. This is as person who has the best interest of our children at heart.
I would love it

Dayton, OH

#44 Jan 14, 2013
The people that voted for this board do not mistrust them. They are doing what we asked them to do. I think the audience at the meeting was frustrated because they are not getting their way. I do agree both sides have to put the children first and find a way to come together.
the silent majority

Dayton, OH

#45 Jan 14, 2013
I would love it wrote:
The people that voted for this board do not mistrust them. They are doing what we asked them to do. I think the audience at the meeting was frustrated because they are not getting their way. I do agree both sides have to put the children first and find a way to come together.
There are a number of reasons for the lack of direction and mutual frustration last Thursday.

Union teachers made up the bulk of the speakers. This provided a false impression ( particularly to media) that their opinions might be considered a fair cross-section of the general opinion of the everyday Springboro parent or taxpayer.

The audience taken as a whole became frustrated with various on-stage unprofessional behaviors of CERTAIN board members of both majority AND minority, including strong leadership skills not being exercised by its president.

Out of those 500-ish attendees of Thursday night's meeting there were local parents, teachers and taxpayers who came not to speak, NOT TO YELL, but instead to listen.

This silent majority came to listen to 2-way mature constructive debate. For their efforts, they received for the most part something that resembled a verbal romper room. For this reason the people of this district deserve to hear apologies from board president Dr. Kelly Kohls as well as SEA president Mr. Scott Maney.
Another View

Cincinnati, OH

#46 Jan 14, 2013
Beginning in 2012, Our current BOE leadership has offered more transparency and participation in our board committee meetings, regular board work sessions and business meetings than at any other time in our school district. The board has provided TV broadcast of meetings and updated websites with meeting agendas and minutes posted.
But the political opposition to the children first budgeting philosophy of reform minded board members Dr. Kohls, Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano, have relentlessly continued their politics of personal destruction against these elected officials, using the privilege of public participation at board meetings to bully, intimidate, disrespect, making false accusations
attacking personal integrity and character which is damaging and disruptive to the school children and community as a whole.
These protests in efforts to overturn the 2011 BOE election and run out of office the two new board representatives began in January 2012, continuing through the year; and now with all the challenges that are before our school district leaders, here we are facing the same old politicis of personal destruction against Dr. Kohls, Mr. Petroni, and Jim Rigano led by fellow board member Don Miller and SEA president Scott Maney, and former union school board candidate, Lisa Babb. It seems that Board policy regarding public participation should be reviewed and considered; that perhaps our citizens who have had such widespread participation in public meetings cannot wisely use that much freedom of expression.
Perhaps it is time for our citizens to simply write down their questions and comments to the board and then have response from board members during public participation.(our school administrators have used this method in community meetings).It is just time to put measures in place right to protect all board members from public meeting verbal abuse so that January 10 never happens again during our public meetings.
And perhaps our school superintendent could step up (among his many duties) and study with his staff and District Parent Council, PTO leadership and all school community volunteers ways that the school community could model good citizenship behavior throughout our schools and community.
Room with a View

Dayton, OH

#47 Jan 14, 2013
Another View wrote:
And perhaps our school superintendent could step up (among his many duties) and study with his staff and District Parent Council, PTO leadership and all school community volunteers ways that the school community could model good citizenship behavior throughout our schools and community.
Agreed! Our superintendent needs to set an important ground rule by emphasizing good citizenship throughout this district.
Most importantly, all teachers and administrators especially Mr. Petrey need to be emphasizing EQUAL educational opportunities for ALL students within Springboro schools!
Observer

Lebanon, OH

#48 Jan 15, 2013
Or is equal more accurately described as taking care of those parents who take care of the teachers?
Common Sense

Atlanta, GA

#49 Jan 15, 2013
Can anyone explain to me what the "political agenda" is that the SEA and naysayers are constantly barking that Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano have?

I see it written constantly, but no one ever seems to be able to put into words what the negative agenda is that they are so afraid of.

We know what the teachers and SEA agenda is. Watching the likes of Babbs, Carlisle, Schrof, Maney et al throw around phrases such as politcal agenda don't realize that what they are really upset about is the BOE "agenda" is simply not the same agenda the SEA has of protecting themselves.

SO again...what are these so called agendas that they are afraid of? Charter Schools? Why are charter schools a problem? One would think giving gifted students another avenue to further their education would be a good thing. Isn't the goal here to better educate the children? So why is the SEA against this idea? Yea, I think we all know the answer to that question.
left yesterday

Dayton, OH

#50 Jan 15, 2013
Higher Ground wrote:
One of the best exercises we can do to maintain a quiet spirit is to talk to ourselves of good things such as kindness, gratitude, thankfulness
and always remember at least three prayer wishes for emergency use...
"Three things in human life are important,
the first is to be kind,
the second is to be kind.
the third is to be kind."
guess that leaves out mr. moore.
Room with a View

Dayton, OH

#51 Jan 15, 2013
Observer wrote:
Or is equal more accurately described as taking care of those parents who take care of the teachers?
Congratulations! You got the brass ring!
Taking care of parents who take care of teachers is Todd Petrey's 2013 New Year's resolution.
Ridiculous

Dayton, OH

#52 Jan 15, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what the "political agenda" is that the SEA and naysayers are constantly barking that Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano have?
I see it written constantly, but no one ever seems to be able to put into words what the negative agenda is that they are so afraid of.
We know what the teachers and SEA agenda is. Watching the likes of Babbs, Carlisle, Schrof, Maney et al throw around phrases such as politcal agenda don't realize that what they are really upset about is the BOE "agenda" is simply not the same agenda the SEA has of protecting themselves.
SO again...what are these so called agendas that they are afraid of? Charter Schools? Why are charter schools a problem? One would think giving gifted students another avenue to further their education would be a good thing. Isn't the goal here to better educate the children? So why is the SEA against this idea? Yea, I think we all know the answer to that question.
My understanding as to why the SEA is against the charter school is that it can be staffed with NON-UNION teachers. Which, obviously, has nothing to do with how our students would suffer, but, rather, how our teachers and their union would.
Mixed

Maineville, OH

#53 Jan 16, 2013
Ridiculous wrote:
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My understanding as to why the SEA is against the charter school is that it can be staffed with NON-UNION teachers. Which, obviously, has nothing to do with how our students would suffer, but, rather, how our teachers and their union would.
They are probably against it because Charter schools are not the answer. How about providing our teachers with the ability to attend Professional Development classes to make them better teachers. My son's teacher has to pay for the sub out of his own pocket if he wants to attend a workshop that will further his professional development. That's 100 dollars plus whatever the cost of the class he is attending. Please tell me what other profession does this to their employees?
wolf in sheeps clothing

Dayton, OH

#54 Jan 16, 2013
Room with a View wrote:
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Congratulations! You got the brass ring!
Taking care of parents who take care of teachers is Todd Petrey's 2013 New Year's resolution.
meet the new boss!
same as the old boss!
Straight to the Point

Cincinnati, OH

#55 Jan 16, 2013
Mixed wrote:
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They are probably against it because Charter schools are not the answer. How about providing our teachers with the ability to attend Professional Development classes to make them better teachers. My son's teacher has to pay for the sub out of his own pocket if he wants to attend a workshop that will further his professional development. That's 100 dollars plus whatever the cost of the class he is attending. Please tell me what other profession does this to their employees?
How about Springboro teachers standing up for themselves and our students and declaring to the SEA president:

Springboro teachers are taking a Tax Holiday this year; instead of paying taxes to the big union boss; we are using the taxpayers money to invest in professional developement in the pursuit of being a better teacher for our school children's future.
Straight to the Point

Cincinnati, OH

#56 Jan 16, 2013
wolf in sheeps clothing wrote:
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meet the new boss!
same as the old boss!
Springboro We've got a problem!
same as the old problem!
Waste Watchers

Cincinnati, OH

#57 Jan 17, 2013
Mixed wrote:
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They are probably against it because Charter schools are not the answer. How about providing our teachers with the ability to attend Professional Development classes to make them better teachers. My son's teacher has to pay for the sub out of his own pocket if he wants to attend a workshop that will further his professional development. That's 100 dollars plus whatever the cost of the class he is attending. Please tell me what other profession does this to their employees?
How about our highly paid school superintendent,Mr. Todd Petrey, who does not support our school district with his property taxes and who has no kids enrolled in our public schools, not INVEST our children's school tax dollars in professional training for teachers; instead Mr. Petrey wastes thousands of dollars on silly postcards sent out on a regular basis to every household in Springboro boasting about "great things that our public schools do?" How about our highly paid school principals (some who are double dipping into taxpayers pockets) not forfeit their Principals funds to invest in our school teachers professional development, if needed? Why doesn't the SEA give the teachers a tax holiday from union dues and allow teachers to invest in their professional development (instead of the SEA investing our school tax dollars in big liberal political causes?) Money money is not needed in our school district; only wiser use of our money putting our children's future best interest first.
Mixed

Maineville, OH

#58 Jan 17, 2013
Waste Watchers wrote:
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How about our highly paid school superintendent,Mr. Todd Petrey, who does not support our school district with his property taxes and who has no kids enrolled in our public schools, not INVEST our children's school tax dollars in professional training for teachers; instead Mr. Petrey wastes thousands of dollars on silly postcards sent out on a regular basis to every household in Springboro boasting about "great things that our public schools do?" How about our highly paid school principals (some who are double dipping into taxpayers pockets) not forfeit their Principals funds to invest in our school teachers professional development, if needed? Why doesn't the SEA give the teachers a tax holiday from union dues and allow teachers to invest in their professional development (instead of the SEA investing our school tax dollars in big liberal political causes?) Money money is not needed in our school district; only wiser use of our money putting our children's future best interest first.
Thanks for your opinion Doug
petri dishes it out

Dayton, OH

#59 Jan 17, 2013
Waste Watchers wrote:
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Mr. Petrey wastes thousands of dollars on silly postcards sent out on a regular basis to every household in Springboro boasting about "great things that our public schools do?"
OMG You're kidding! Petrey needs to stop throwing our money in the tiolet!
If Todd Petrey feels the urge to send pro-levy propaganda, fine, then he should be doing all of that electronically.
executive producer

Dayton, OH

#60 Jan 17, 2013
Who do I see about getting movie rights to the never ending school drama here in Springboro?

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