Statements like this show peoples ignorance. Typewriters have been replaced by computers and keyboarding which those types of classes are still offered. Today's industrial arts is not that of your Daddy's it involves CAD, Architectural Design, Drafting to mention a few. Who needs these types of classes in the 21st Century? I'm sure these skills will not be necessary in the 21st Century. Better yet let's keep History of Rock and Roll and cut U.S. Military History. Why not get rid of these and add PE Team Sports and Individual Sports.' Wait that's what did happen, so much for vision. The teacher who taught these courses makes 1/3 of the salary of our PE teacher. Remember the new motto is "Fitness First." These are the answers to helping those 2000 students that Springboro is not reaching.<quoted text>
No shame in dropping Industrial Arts program.
Let's face it...what we used to have years back was typing classes taught using manual typewriters...
it's the 21st century;
as our school superintendent states: We have to infuse today's lessons with tomorrow's vision.
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#23652 Feb 25, 2013
That's great let's make teachers now responsible for childhood obesity, TV viewing, and proper dieting. At what point and when are the parents responsible for their children?
#23653 Feb 25, 2013
Why is Mr. Malone cutting Industrial Arts? How many kids have the capacity to work with their hands or understand how anything is made?
The world needs plumbers, carpenters, electricians, sheet metal workers, HVAC people, etc etc etc
Not everyone is going to college, and not all that go succeed. Not everyone is interested in electronics or robotics, some people like to build other things.
I am still waiting for someone to give me a source for the wild claims about PE?
Does one actually exist?
Or are these lonely blatherers just deluded souls howling in the night?
Finally, the previous couple of post do not belong to me, but rather to someone with limited imagination and even fewer critical thinking skills.
#23654 Feb 26, 2013
Anyone out there with that PE source material?
I trust you, but I would like to verify your rumor for myself.
#23656 Feb 26, 2013
Your two cents worth isn't convincing that money can buy common sense or courtesy. Common sense and common courtesy are free; but we do have to exercise both; or else become small-minded and fearful of losing security in thinking ourselves much more important than we really are.
Our school board/district leaders are implementing some much needed and long overdue COMMON SENSE curriculum changes that have been ignored too long. It's not just about the money; it's not just about job security for union employees; it's not just about giving parents what they want. The changes we are seeing in our school district is all about assuring a quality education for our students while living within our financial means, with no new taxes.
#23657 Feb 26, 2013
looks like tracy is the one coming out of the closet demanding her five minutes of fame and name recognition on this blog. such bad manners, tracy, exposing your name; never heard of your name until you introduced yourself on this blog, proving your bad manners.
#23658 Feb 26, 2013
Mr. Malone is not the one cutting the course of studies...it's your puppet masters doing that.
#23659 Feb 26, 2013
Mr. Malone is doing nothing but sitting out his contract in his business as usual insiders tent of contentment; hoping that status quo board member Don Miller and SEA president will rally the youth union group once more and "save ron malone."
Sorry Ron, you protested throughout our churches and neighborhoods last March that a deal is a deal.
Now your last year in your contract deal is coming to a close.
And it's time for you to go quietly, with no interruption into our students studies with cries for their help to defy board authority to save your job.
#23660 Feb 26, 2013
My name was already posted...you posted it, Pillar. Again, do you want to tell us who you are?
#23661 Feb 26, 2013
An audit by Tom Isaacs of the Warren County Educational Services Center (WCESC) reviewed our program of studies last year and came up with the recommendations that are now being felt.
Ron Malone is the one charged with providing the BOE the program of studies for their approval. He did that at the last board meeting.
Many of the changes we are seeing are a direct reflection of the review and audit by the WCESC, a third party consultant with expertise in the education and teaching profession. The contract was engaged by Mr. Petrey and cost the district $8000 or so.(What an odd concept, hiring people with specific knowledge in specific areas to help us in our decision making)
I believe a previous audit had been done a couple years earlier that had revealed essentially the same things. Somehow somebody sat on this report for a couple of years and did nothing. Now we are forced to play catch up.
And the children that could have been helped moved through our school system with none of the improvements put into place to help them.
A new attitude that reflects the future rather than grasping onto the past is what is needed to bring the 2000 plus children in our district up to speed.
#23662 Feb 26, 2013
Hey Tracy Leisman Krebs -is that really You?
Well Duh posts and Pillar posts are not being posted by the same person; but you can't recognize that difference...perhaps you suffer from identity crisis, thinking you deserve more courtesy on this blog than you are willing to offer others.
#23663 Feb 26, 2013
Thanks for helping community outsiders learn the truth about the goings on of the union insiders.
#23664 Feb 26, 2013
You are correct, but not 100% correct.
Parents indeed are the very first dietary role models in their childrens' lives. A lot of the time this is good, but not all the time.
Think about the people who live in and around your immediate neighborhood. It's not all that difficult to locate extremely overweight individuals who also happen to be parents of school age children. If the parents suck at monitoring their diets and overall health, how can you honestly expect their kids to do much better? These are the types of parents who likely hadn't learned to prepare any type of food from a recipe using basic wholesome ingredients - So thus, their kids likely will not learn these important skills, either.
Instead, such irresponsible slobs might consider "dinner" any and all sorts of crappy carb-filled fiberless sugary garbage they can conjure up at walmart. And of course they'll allow their kids to brownbag (oops!...sorry, girls!) Vera Bradley-bag this same crap for their school lunches. These are the type of irresponsible parents that fail to stress the importance of having SOMETHING REAL for breakfast each and every day before school. They don't bother to eat breakfast (no! Starbucks coffee DOESN'T count!) so why should they make their kids eat breakfast? The closest thing to the fruit/vegetable group you'll find in their house might be a bottle of Heinz ketchup.
So, yeah! I guess our teachers DO need to teach healthy eating habits and be positive role models for healthy living
(that is, assuming they're not obese as well!)
#23665 Feb 26, 2013
@way too many carbs mama
Oh Yeah! Way too many union teachers indoctrinating our kids and fatheat parents that the union teacher in the classroom is the MOST important resource.
Time to trim off that union fat and cut heavily-bloated politics out of our kids classrooms.
#23666 Feb 26, 2013
In the High School Course of Study that was presented by Dr. Malone and subsequently approved by the BOE on February 14, includes two new classes in the PE Dept., Team Sports and Individual Sports. No course numbers were provided at the time because they were new classes. I just checked the agenda for that meeting on the BOE site, looked at the High School Course of Study as presented by Dr. Malone, and verified this information.
Industrial Arts classes and Social Studies electives were also included in the HS Course of Study that was approved by the BOE that evening. If a decision was made after that time to then drop those classes from the Course of Study, wouldn't those changes then have to be approved by the BOE? Dr. Malone would not be able to make those decisions himself without BOE approval, would he? I don't see anything on the upcoming agenda regarding this topic.
#23667 Feb 26, 2013
You mean the people at the Warren County Education Service Center
Do we need to post the WCESC report on line? While the first page praises our existing system, the proceeding 14 pages offer up ways to make the system better for all involved. It contains no rocket science, just a common sense approach to education that relates to the future, not the past.
Please remember an important man in our school district held on to the last report for years before prying it out of his desk to show to the administration. How many of the recommendations from that report would you believe were instituted? How many countless children lost out due to this person's neglect, as the past report lay idle, hidden away?
Now we have a real Superintendent, one for a different time, a different attitude, and different positive results for more of the children in this school district.
The envelope will be pushed up and out, whether you wish to remain entrenched in the past or soaring with the future is entirely up to you.
Since: Feb 13
#23668 Feb 26, 2013
If they are cutting classes presumably one or more positions would be eliminated and staff changes have to go through the board.
I would like to see the ESC doc so if it could be posted or linked to I would appreciate it. I have a hard time believing they would recommend the course of action that apparently is taking place. Taking out a whole line of classes and replacing them with what?Nothing?? I don't understand how that is any better, even if it is history of film etc. If changes need to be made then change them over a year or two... adapt classes, whatever.
And I have to be honest, I have a cousin that teaches Industrial arts up in NW Ohio so I am a bit biased in all this. Just this Christmas I we talked about the subject and it angers him that schools go away from this. He has taught all Project Lead the Way classes for the last few years. He gets all kinds of support from companies that want to get kids into engineering fields. Every year his kids solve a real problem for some local company. The company pitches it to the kids and the kids build prototypes in groups to solve the problem. If any place should have this it's Springboro. I was impressed looking at that website of theirs I posted yesterday...I can't believe getting rid of all these classes wholesale is the way to go.
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