Mexican "Narco-refugees" Seek Politic...

Mexican "Narco-refugees" Seek Political Asylum In U.S.

There are 65 comments on the www.judicialwatch.org story from Oct 28, 2011, titled Mexican "Narco-refugees" Seek Political Asylum In U.S.. In it, www.judicialwatch.org reports that:

Overshadowed by the heated issue of illegal immigration is the equally serious national security challenge created by a growing number of Mexicans seeking political asylum in the United States to escape escalating drug-cartel violence in their country.

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#1 Oct 28, 2011
Why must Mexicans always be such a pain in the azz?

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#2 Oct 29, 2011
Let them move to where there isn't any drug cartel violence. It's not America's responsibility to take in the entire world because there countries are having trouble.

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#3 Oct 29, 2011
oops...there=their...

“COGNITIVE DISSONANCE”

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#4 Oct 29, 2011
Anyone remember the Mariel boatlift?

Interestingly, that happened a few years before the failed and disgraceful amnesty scam that the pols foisted on us and then failed to meet the promises made in return for that breach of principles.

Unless we clean house in Washington, I'd put a sad bet that the Law-breakers Coalition will try to continue their pattern of cramming repeat disasters down our throats!
Disgusting

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Oct 29, 2011
Just say no, hell no!
sterco

Great Falls, MT

#6 Oct 29, 2011
Tough shit beaners. The mess in your country is for you to clean up not us. Stay home and get after it. You are not our responsibility. If we were going to let everyone in Mexihell come up here that is not living a satisfactory life we will end up being MEXIHELL!!!

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#7 Oct 29, 2011
Brainstorm wrote:
Anyone remember the Mariel boatlift?
Interestingly, that happened a few years before the failed and disgraceful amnesty scam that the pols foisted on us and then failed to meet the promises made in return for that breach of principles.
Unless we clean house in Washington, I'd put a sad bet that the Law-breakers Coalition will try to continue their pattern of cramming repeat disasters down our throats!
Term limits are needed. Of course if that's left to those who we elect, it'll never happen. Time to make our opinions known at the ballot box. Remove those that don't put legal Americans and America first and formost.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#8 Oct 29, 2011
Brainstorm wrote:
Anyone remember the Mariel boatlift?
Interestingly, that happened a few years before the failed and disgraceful amnesty scam that the pols foisted on us and then failed to meet the promises made in return for that breach of principles.
Unless we clean house in Washington, I'd put a sad bet that the Law-breakers Coalition will try to continue their pattern of cramming repeat disasters down our throats!
Mexico remembers. That is why they send their criminals and mentally ill to the United States. It worked for Cuba and it is working for Mexico. As a bonus illegals from Mexico send money they steal in the United States back to Mexico.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#9 Oct 29, 2011
So cartel members want to retire to the U.S.
Prodding Question

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Oct 29, 2011
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
So cartel members want to retire to the U.S.
Exactly, as well as purported rape victims, domestic violence, news reporters, L.E. officers, etc. We can't support the entire country of Mexico, unless we take it over and its' rich resources.

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#11 Oct 29, 2011
I agree that beaners should stay in Mexico.
Memo From Turner

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#12 Oct 29, 2011
Brainstorm wrote:
Anyone remember the Mariel boatlift?
Interestingly, that happened a few years before the failed and disgraceful amnesty scam that the pols foisted on us and then failed to meet the promises made in return for that breach of principles.
Unless we clean house in Washington, I'd put a sad bet that the Law-breakers Coalition will try to continue their pattern of cramming repeat disasters down our throats!
I remember the Mariel boat lift, but what does it have to do illegal immigration? Yes it was a dirty trick by Castro, but under US law none of the people involved would be considered illegal immigrants.

Due to the strong influence of the Cubans in the Florida Republican party any Cuban who reaches US soil is entitled to stay and they are put on a path to unconditional legal residence within one year.

Why is a Mexican who enters the country demonized and a Cuban who does the same rewarded? Remember the outcry from the right when Clinton had the audacity to deport Elian Gonzalez.

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#14 Oct 29, 2011
Memo From Turner wrote:
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I remember the Mariel boat lift, but what does it have to do illegal immigration? Yes it was a dirty trick by Castro, but under US law none of the people involved would be considered illegal immigrants.
Due to the strong influence of the Cubans in the Florida Republican party any Cuban who reaches US soil is entitled to stay and they are put on a path to unconditional legal residence within one year.
Why is a Mexican who enters the country demonized and a Cuban who does the same rewarded? Remember the outcry from the right when Clinton had the audacity to deport Elian Gonzalez.
The Mariel boatlift reference is, obviously, a reminder that we learned a very hard lesson that well-intentioned waiving-in of numbers of immigrants from a troubled country can end very badly. The initial "feel good" appeal can turn to literal terror when the US citizens become the victims of those they tried to help. The regular immigration procedures seek to minimize that kind of crap-shoot about who gets to enter the country.

I can't make sense of your generalized assertion about demonized Mexicans and rewarded Cubans. If you're asking about the rules applicable to some escaping Cubans under limited circumstances-- I guess I'd point out that their status on arrival IS as a legal entrant. There are all sorts of Country-specific refugee programs and other quota and special programs whereby legal immigrants can properly seek admission and that is just one. The link below will give you lots of information about the many, many countries involved in U.S. refugee programs which date back to 1948.

You may wish to note that refugee programs have NOTHING to do with asylum procedures and thus it's mixing apples and oranges to compare the Cuban refugee rules to the current attempt to use Mexico's violent crime situation as a basis for entry on asylum grounds. Beyond that confusion and the mischaracterization of U.S. history as it relates to refugees, your cheap shot at one political party diminishes your credibility. Are you seriously saying that the pro-Cuban lobby in Florida is not solidly supported by the Democrats? That's ridiculous.

The key for ANY immigrant to be admitted SHOULD be full compliance with extant immigration law and I can only reiterate that history showed in the Mariel situation that politically motivated mass exemptions are unwise--- as was the prior experiment with amnesty which proved to be a one-sided fraud inflicted on the American citizens by corrupt politicians.

http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/d...
Memo From Turner

Nutley, NJ

#16 Oct 29, 2011
Brainstorm wrote:
<quoted text>
The Mariel boatlift reference is, obviously, a reminder that we learned a very hard lesson that well-intentioned waiving-in of numbers of immigrants from a troubled country can end very badly. The initial "feel good" appeal can turn to literal terror when the US citizens become the victims of those they tried to help. The regular immigration procedures seek to minimize that kind of crap-shoot about who gets to enter the country.
I can't make sense of your generalized assertion about demonized Mexicans and rewarded Cubans. If you're asking about the rules applicable to some escaping Cubans under limited circumstances-- I guess I'd point out that their status on arrival IS as a legal entrant. There are all sorts of Country-specific refugee programs and other quota and special programs whereby legal immigrants can properly seek admission and that is just one. The link below will give you lots of information about the many, many countries involved in U.S. refugee programs which date back to 1948.
You may wish to note that refugee programs have NOTHING to do with asylum procedures and thus it's mixing apples and oranges to compare the Cuban refugee rules to the current attempt to use Mexico's violent crime situation as a basis for entry on asylum grounds. Beyond that confusion and the mischaracterization of U.S. history as it relates to refugees, your cheap shot at one political party diminishes your credibility. Are you seriously saying that the pro-Cuban lobby in Florida is not solidly supported by the Democrats? That's ridiculous.
The key for ANY immigrant to be admitted SHOULD be full compliance with extant immigration law and I can only reiterate that history showed in the Mariel situation that politically motivated mass exemptions are unwise--- as was the prior experiment with amnesty which proved to be a one-sided fraud inflicted on the American citizens by corrupt politicians.
http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/d...
Are we talking about the same Mariel boat lift? There were no politically motivated waivers involved. Castro simply sent them and there was nothing we could do about it. There was no "feel good" aspect to it. Everybody was pissed.

My point was to highlight the Byzantine labyrinth of US immigration laws. I do have to correct something you said about Cubans who can receive legal status under "limited circumstances". It turns out the limited circumstances cover any Cuban who reached the US under any circumstances. It is called the wet foot, dry foot policy. If they are stopped off shore they are sent back to Cuba, but if a single part of their bodies reaches the US then they are legal and allowed to stay. A few years ago they had a court case because a Cuban was caught by border patrol at the shore, but it turns out their hand had touched a pier before they were caught so they were considered legal. It would be similar to allowing a Mexican who stuck their hand under the fence to stay.

Is your question about the political influence of the pro-Cuban lobby in Florida some type of joke. I'm not sure I get it. The Cubans have been a major voting and fund raising block for the Republicans for the past fifty years. That is beyond question.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-hispanic-rep...

Why else do you think Cubans have an open ended amnesty in the US. Is it because the people are fleeing a brutal communist dictatorship? No. That would not be the answer.

There are approximately 500,000 undocumented Chinese people in the US who were also fleeing a brutal communist dictatorship. I don't see anybody waving a magic wand over them and giving them legal status.

Are you in favor of granting amnesty to the Chinese?

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#17 Oct 29, 2011
Blacks back to Africa wrote:
Why must Mexicans always be such a pain in the azz?
You should keep your inner desires to yourself.

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#18 Oct 29, 2011
Blacks back to Africa wrote:
I agree that beaners should stay in Mexico.
Then where should we send you?

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#19 Oct 29, 2011
If they enter the USA legally then what's the problem?

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#20 Oct 29, 2011
so that is how they are going to pull it off.

hope no one is foolish enough to fall for it,after all there is no way to prove they are not the ones doing all that stuff in mexico now.
what now do crimes in mexico and run here for protection?

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#21 Oct 29, 2011
boy this is going to cost us alot!

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#22 Oct 29, 2011
tomin cali wrote:
boy this is going to cost us alot!
Mexicans are sending America into a DEATH spiral... there's only so many illegal alien Mexicans America can take before third-world status is obtained...

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