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crashcourse

Wichita Falls, TX

#1 Mar 2, 2007
Texas! Feed her to the fish! She didnt deserve a red carpet, what the hell is wrong with people? Whats this going to teach little girls? Act like a clown, lol, literally, and get all blitzed out of your mind and be a supa starrr lol at this tramp. Id like to step on her tiara and smear her lipstick.
Suzan

Fontana, WI

#2 Mar 2, 2007
Well, Rain. Seems like you ust have some issues of your own. First of all, you disrespect the dead, like it is YOUR job to JUDGE. We have all had some situations in our lives that weren't of the highest calibur. Anna was a beautiful woman, whether YOU are willing to admit that, or not. She knew what she wanted and she went after it...maybe not always with the BEST attention, but she ALWAYS drew attention. She did love her late husband, if it was not the most conventional type of love between a man and a woman. Anna lived a life without her father and has always reached out for love in different ways, to different men. If you would humble yourself for a moment to look deep within yourself, I'm sure you're not perfect, either. Oh, yes,you're from Texas. You seem to have a similarly angry, selfish attiude that Virgie Arthur also has. Must be Texas. Everythings bigger in Texas -- even bad attitudes.
Suzan

Fontana, WI

#3 Mar 2, 2007
To continue...she deserved the red carpet, the pink flowers, the custom-made gown and the tiara. You are so disgusting you make me sick. People loved her, whether you did or not. This is a tragic story of a woman who lived a very different type of life than your maistream America...lost her son days after the birth of her daughter, everyone used her and now her mother (that wonderful woman from TEXAS who didn't give a dam about her in all these years...or her children). Virgie was NOT a good mother to Anna and she should stay away from DannieLynn. I'm not sure HK$ should have custody of the baby, but Virgie certainly SHOULD NOT. She's already getting waaaay too used to the idea of that $, and that is ALL she and her family are about.
Clyde

Chillicothe, OH

#4 Mar 2, 2007
Rain wrote:
Texas! Feed her to the fish! She didnt deserve a red carpet, what the hell is wrong with people? Whats this going to teach little girls? Act like a clown, lol, literally, and get all blitzed out of your mind and be a supa starrr lol at this tramp. Id like to step on her tiara and smear her lipstick.
Hopefully, it will teach our girls to be very cautious when choosing a mate!!!
Lynne

AOL

#5 Mar 2, 2007
Maybe Rain knew her personally. Yes, a child without a father. She didn't have much of a mother either did she? Didn't have either. She wanted to much. Did she have to do it the bad way, Playboy, etc ! She said, "She wanted to be the next Marilyn, well Marilyn Monroe died the same way Anna died, but younger. Why didn't she want to sober up, for her new born baby, daughter.
Seems to be that Anna, had a whole lot of problems, that no one, not even the Dr's could work out with her. She had a lot of problems', as most people do, but they have dealt with them, thought the years. Her son, was suppose to have been on a lot of prescription drugs at the time of his death. She made him have these problems. Not many boys, would want their mother, posing naked, just to be famious.
Anna lived and died, in a bad way. Her way !
Pardon me for saying so.
Dee Ann

Wichita Falls, TX

#6 Mar 3, 2007
Suzan wrote:
To continue...she deserved the red carpet, the pink flowers, the custom-made gown and the tiara. You are so disgusting you make me sick. People loved her, whether you did or not. This is a tragic story of a woman who lived a very different type of life than your maistream America...lost her son days after the birth of her daughter, everyone used her and now her mother (that wonderful woman from TEXAS who didn't give a dam about her in all these years...or her children). Virgie was NOT a good mother to Anna and she should stay away from DannieLynn. I'm not sure HK$ should have custody of the baby, but Virgie certainly SHOULD NOT. She's already getting waaaay too used to the idea of that $, and that is ALL she and her family are about.
What money? Last I heard the house she lived in was on loan with option to buy because she was broke. The inheritance is not a done deal..she only won the right to repetition for her case to be heard. It could spend another 12 years in the courts and still be denied. Texas courts have already ruled she was not eligible to inherit. She did desert J Howard Marshall to go do her own thing and treated him badly because of his age (she was afraid of what people would think about her and an old man).In Texas that is called elder abuse and punishable with jail time. People loved her alright, but we have to wonder about the kind of people she drew. Was it out of pity that they were drawn or was it the "birds of a feather" factor? Do you know Virgie or are you just a person of great mind/heart reading skills? Are you not making the same judgement about Virgie? Have you ever read the part in the Bible about if a child deserts their mother (or father) in their old age, they must die? It states no exception rules that I know of, and you must know that God is the one who chose Virgie to be Anna's mother. Are you questioning His decision?
Outer Limtis

Memphis, TN

#7 Mar 3, 2007
You read my mind..........
Dee Ann wrote:
<quoted text>What money? Last I heard the house she lived in was on loan with option to buy because she was broke. The inheritance is not a done deal..she only won the right to repetition for her case to be heard. It could spend another 12 years in the courts and still be denied. Texas courts have already ruled she was not eligible to inherit. She did desert J Howard Marshall to go do her own thing and treated him badly because of his age (she was afraid of what people would think about her and an old man).In Texas that is called elder abuse and punishable with jail time. People loved her alright, but we have to wonder about the kind of people she drew. Was it out of pity that they were drawn or was it the "birds of a feather" factor? Do you know Virgie or are you just a person of great mind/heart reading skills? Are you not making the same judgement about Virgie? Have you ever read the part in the Bible about if a child deserts their mother (or father) in their old age, they must die? It states no exception rules that I know of, and you must know that God is the one who chose Virgie to be Anna's mother. Are you questioning His decision?
Suzan

Fontana, WI

#8 Mar 4, 2007
Test.
Dee Ann wrote:
<quoted text>What money? Last I heard the house she lived in was on loan with option to buy because she was broke. The inheritance is not a done deal..she only won the right to repetition for her case to be heard. It could spend another 12 years in the courts and still be denied. Texas courts have already ruled she was not eligible to inherit. She did desert J Howard Marshall to go do her own thing and treated him badly because of his age (she was afraid of what people would think about her and an old man).In Texas that is called elder abuse and punishable with jail time. People loved her alright, but we have to wonder about the kind of people she drew. Was it out of pity that they were drawn or was it the "birds of a feather" factor? Do you know Virgie or are you just a person of great mind/heart reading skills? Are you not making the same judgement about Virgie? Have you ever read the part in the Bible about if a child deserts their mother (or father) in their old age, they must die? It states no exception rules that I know of, and you must know that God is the one who chose Virgie to be Anna's mother. Are you questioning His decision?
Suzan

Fontana, WI

#9 Mar 4, 2007
Lynne wrote:
Maybe Rain knew her personally. Yes, a child without a father. She didn't have much of a mother either did she? Didn't have either. She wanted to much. Did she have to do it the bad way, Playboy, etc ! She said, "She wanted to be the next Marilyn, well Marilyn Monroe died the same way Anna died, but younger. Why didn't she want to sober up, for her new born baby, daughter.
Seems to be that Anna, had a whole lot of problems, that no one, not even the Dr's could work out with her. She had a lot of problems', as most people do, but they have dealt with them, thought the years. Her son, was suppose to have been on a lot of prescription drugs at the time of his death. She made him have these problems. Not many boys, would want their mother, posing naked, just to be famious.
Anna lived and died, in a bad way. Her way !
Pardon me for saying so.
Who said she didn't want to get off the drugs? In that clown vid I started wondering if she even knew she had a clown face on. Could HK$ have painted the face?(Fed her the drugs beforehand, of course) Could he have somewhat staged that, to get a vid for himself to make money? Didn't expect ANS to die or the Bahaman house to be 'robbed'. Gee, someone now had evidence to prove that HK$ was just a low-life user? Just one more of many who USED ANS.
Suzan

Fontana, WI

#10 Mar 4, 2007
Cont....
He did comment on the vid that this vid would be worth $$$.
Peg

Wichita Falls, TX

#11 Mar 4, 2007
Suzan wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said she didn't want to get off the drugs? In that clown vid I started wondering if she even knew she had a clown face on. Could HK$ have painted the face?(Fed her the drugs beforehand, of course) Could he have somewhat staged that, to get a vid for himself to make money? Didn't expect ANS to die or the Bahaman house to be 'robbed'. Gee, someone now had evidence to prove that HK$ was just a low-life user? Just one more of many who USED ANS.
The hand you see painting the clown face is the daughter of the man who owns the house and he testified to that in court (that she was his daughter...Reilly was her name). What you didn't see in the video was the little girl gitting scared and asking if she could call her daddy to come get her and HK$ telling her no. The dad was hoppin' mad abut that and right before he testified in court he hired an attorney. I think that is why he is throwing HK$ out of his house.
crashcourse

Wichita Falls, TX

#12 Mar 4, 2007
Suzan wrote:
Well, Rain. Seems like you ust have some issues of your own. First of all, you disrespect the dead, like it is YOUR job to JUDGE. We have all had some situations in our lives that weren't of the highest calibur. Anna was a beautiful woman, whether YOU are willing to admit that, or not. She knew what she wanted and she went after it...maybe not always with the BEST attention, but she ALWAYS drew attention. She did love her late husband, if it was not the most conventional type of love between a man and a woman. Anna lived a life without her father and has always reached out for love in different ways, to different men. If you would humble yourself for a moment to look deep within yourself, I'm sure you're not perfect, either. Oh, yes,you're from Texas. You seem to have a similarly angry, selfish attiude that Virgie Arthur also has. Must be Texas. Everythings bigger in Texas -- even bad attitudes.
Couldnt you have revised that down a little? I never even mentioned ol vergie the witch, where in the hell do you thihnk you get off giving me some long ass speach about VERGIE? and Annas long ol life? Weirdo
crashcourse

Wichita Falls, TX

#13 Mar 4, 2007
and one mmore thing, you DAMN right IM from TEXAS so screw ya:}
Shi_Light

Chicago, IL

#14 Mar 4, 2007
Suzan wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said she didn't want to get off the drugs? In that clown vid I started wondering if she even knew she had a clown face on. Could HK$ have painted the face?(Fed her the drugs beforehand, of course) Could he have somewhat staged that, to get a vid for himself to make money? Didn't expect ANS to die or the Bahaman house to be 'robbed'. Gee, someone now had evidence to prove that HK$ was just a low-life user? Just one more of many who USED ANS.
There are many good people who have grown up without a father.

Be careful who you make your idol. OOp comes to think of it. We are not to worship idols. That what the Bible teaches.

It also teaches that the Love of money is the root of all evil. I repeat the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
Shi_Light

Chicago, IL

#15 Mar 4, 2007
Suzan wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said she didn't want to get off the drugs? In that clown vid I started wondering if she even knew she had a clown face on. Could HK$ have painted the face?(Fed her the drugs beforehand, of course) Could he have somewhat staged that, to get a vid for himself to make money? Didn't expect ANS to die or the Bahaman house to be 'robbed'. Gee, someone now had evidence to prove that HK$ was just a low-life user? Just one more of many who USED ANS.
HK$ knew exactly what he was doing. Take a look at ANS will.

Anyone in their right mine never would have signed that will. He is the executor. It is unbelievable. She must have been on mushrooms when she signed it. She could not have possible know what it said.
Marti

Austin, TX

#16 Mar 8, 2007
Peg wrote:
<quoted text>The hand you see painting the clown face is the daughter of the man who owns the house and he testified to that in court (that she was his daughter...Reilly was her name). What you didn't see in the video was the little girl gitting scared and asking if she could call her daddy to come get her and HK$ telling her no. The dad was hoppin' mad abut that and right before he testified in court he hired an attorney. I think that is why he is throwing HK$ out of his house.
We have not heard the whole story of it. And Howard K made money from the clown video. Why did he get to show that video in court ? Why was he allowed to show such disrespect for anyone, after they're dead, doesn't anyone think that was in poor taste ? No wonder they are talking about Virgie, like she was crazy, who would not be very angry and upset after seeing what all was said and put on TV about her daughter strung out on drugs, after the death of both Anna and Daniel. Americans are so
OUTRAGEOUS, some of them don't even recognize how disrespectful it really is. Its tabloid news and TV ratings. Its a MAD MAD MAD world
(only in America)
Peg

Wichita Falls, TX

#17 Mar 8, 2007
Marti wrote:
<quoted text>
We have not heard the whole story of it. And Howard K made money from the clown video. Why did he get to show that video in court ? Why was he allowed to show such disrespect for anyone, after they're dead, doesn't anyone think that was in poor taste ? No wonder they are talking about Virgie, like she was crazy, who would not be very angry and upset after seeing what all was said and put on TV about her daughter strung out on drugs, after the death of both Anna and Daniel. Americans are so
OUTRAGEOUS, some of them don't even recognize how disrespectful it really is. Its tabloid news and TV ratings. Its a MAD MAD MAD world
(only in America)
HK$ did not make any mney from the clown video...The man who owns the house went in after Anna's death and took it and other things at Anna's request. He testified to all of this in court. The video Stern showed in court was the interview with ET when Anna talked abot her mom. I think it was a put up deal myself.
Marti

Austin, TX

#18 Mar 9, 2007
Peg wrote:
<quoted text>HK$ did not make any mney from the clown video...The man who owns the house went in after Anna's death and took it and other things at Anna's request. He testified to all of this in court. The video Stern showed in court was the interview with ET when Anna talked abot her mom. I think it was a put up deal myself.
Right, and is that the man from South Carolina, I heard something about the fact that Anna Nicole had taken a trip to South Carolina before she went to the Bahamas, the owner of the house was a friend, or former boyfriend or something. Yes, there was definitely something "put up" about this whole thing. That is why people are so interested in this discussion. I just wonder why no one from Mexia is on this forum, that knew Anna Nicole or her mother in the 70's and 80's. I used to work with someone from Mexia, and I had a friend from Fairfield. I have lost touch with both of them, so that is why I have an interest in this. Anytime something gets in the news, the public gets bits and pieces and people do an awful lot of assuming things that are not entirely true.
Julianna

Jacksonville, FL

#19 Mar 10, 2007
Suzan:
I agree with most of what you've said, except the part about Anna loving her husband. Her treatment of him proved that she did not love him. We can say that we love someone, but our actions prove otherwise. Did you know...
Immediately after marrying Mr. Marshall, she left him at the chapel so she (AND ANOTHER MAN) could go on a trip to Greece. She told Mr. Marshall that she had to "work" and go on a "photo shoot." She had just married a BILLIONAIRE - she didn't "need" to work on her "honeymoon."
Mr. Marshall's nurse and other caretakers (who stood to gain nothing monetarily from their testimony) confirmed that during their 14 month marriage, Mr. Marshall rarely saw Anna and they never lived together. She would rarely even take his phone calls. She spent money like water, and even bought 2 million worth of jewelry in NYC in less than one hour (paid for by Mr. Marshall's AmEx card - yet she wouldn't take his phone calls).
When he died - she wasn't there. She did, however, take his family to court and challenge their plans to cremate him in keeping with his Quaker beliefs. The court held that both she and the Marshall family could have separate services for him. Anna's "funeral service" for Mr. Marshall was a disgrace. She showed up in a wedding gown with veil. That's right. A wedding gown w/veil. She sang for her "audience," while her dog ran up and down the aisle and around the casket. The casket was decorated with teddy bears (might as well have been unicorns).
The court did permit the cremation, but Anna then challenged the family again and was awarded one half of Mr. Marshall's ashes. She did not pick up the ashes from the funeral home until five (5) years later! Guess she was on another "photo shoot."
Her actions clearly exhibit her disrespect of Mr. Marshall and lack of humanity. I do not think that she deserved the same treatment in death ONLY because, as a society, we must be better than that. Anna Nicole should have been better than that in life, though, sadly she was not. And she should have stopped making excuses.
I can understand being drawn to someone who can shelter you from poverty. However, those days were over. The Marshall family never asked for the many millions in cash and possessions that were bought for or given to Anna during their 14 months of marriage. It is pure greed that has fueled a 12 year court battle to "get something for nothing."
The lesson from her life, death and burial (circus) in my opinion is that what goes around does, WITHOUT A DOUBT, come back around. She was, indeed, a gorgeous woman. She loved her son and had many reasons to live. She made a lot of bad choices, always blamed everyone else and never exhibited any accountability for her own actions.
I understand her not having a relationship with her mother. I understand the abuse. I don't have a relationship with my family. I was an abused child. I left home at 17. I have worked full-time since that age. I worked my way through college, graduating with a B.S. degree. I am a professional who always strives to do better and hold myself to a higher standard. We all find our way in life. I'm not casting stones at her for the stripping or various things she did early on (although obviously those aren't the choices I would have made), but there comes a point in our life that we MUST make a determination. "Do I want to have a better life or not?" And most of us never meet a Mr. Marshall. He rescued her from poverty x10. She never had to look back. She chose to.
Only so much can be blamed on Virgie Arthur, Howard Stern and everyone else.
Julianna

Jacksonville, FL

#20 Mar 10, 2007
Shi_Light wrote:
<quoted text>
HK$ knew exactly what he was doing. Take a look at ANS will.
Anyone in their right mine never would have signed that will. He is the executor. It is unbelievable. She must have been on mushrooms when she signed it. She could not have possible know what it said.
She was a functional illiterate. That was cited in the ruling by the estate judge. He said that her illiteracy was "striking." For example, she couldn't really determine the difference between $24.00 and $2400 when she saw it written. She probably trusted those in her circle to inform her of what it all meant. And perhaps they did, but she was too embarassed or ignorant (in the true sense of the word) to admit that she didn't understand.

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